>A 19 year old Swedish man was found guilty of manslaughter today after having defended himself from an armed robber.
>The groundbreaking sentence determines that deadly force, neither intentional nor unintentional, for the purpose of self-defense is effectively illegal in Sweden.
>In December of 2015, the then 18 year old Swedish man was approached by two Iraqi robbers in the heavily immigrant area of Rinkeby in Stockholm. >One of the robbers pointed a gun to the head of the victim while his companion yelled "Shoot him! Shoot him!". >The Swedish man brought forth a knife and pointed it to the chest of the gun-wielding Iraqi. >The Iraqi robber did not discontinue the robbery but instead continued walking towards the man while holding the gun towards his head. >The Swedish man continued holding the knife towards the Iraqi's heart in a stalwart position until the Iraqi man walks in to the knife, piercing him immediately in the heart. >The Iraqi robber later died of the injuries he sustained.
>While the court admits that the Swedish man acted in legitimate self-defense in a tumultuous situation and that he did not actively stab the robber, the court argues that "Before the robber brought forth the knife, the victim had the opportunity to call for help. He could also have run from the grip of the two robbers or could at least have attempted to do it." >The court further argued that "Given the circumstances, we find that the victim of the robbery could have, in any possible scenario when the gun was brought forth, used the knife in a less devastating manner for the robber, than to point it at vital organs -- especially when the robber was moving his body towards the victim." >"It is obviously indefensible to use deadly force in the present situation, even though the victim was in a legitimate position of shielding himself from the robber."
>The gun was later found to have been a masked soft airgun.
The Swedish guy was sentenced to 2 years in prison for manslaughter.
Jason Flores
Bump in the name of justice.
Ethan Ross
mfw
Sebastian Russell
Lol how do you walk into a knife
Jayden Nguyen
>someone threatens to end your life in an illegal manner >kill him in self defense >simply because his skin is darker than theirs, he will now serve jail time
Holy shit sweden, do something about this trash.
Parker Flores
Disgusting. I just ordered 3 more boxes of ammo and a new gun for you swedebro.
Tyler Kelly
No one really knows how things turned out, but apparently the court accepted this defense and actively admits in the sentencing that the victim did not "actively stab the robber". But they still give him 2 years.
Presumably the situation only happened for a couple of seconds and he might have help up the knife and the shitskin quickly approached him and expected him to take the knife back.
Wyatt Wilson
Thanks. I didn't use to think a 2nd Amendment was important here 10 years ago, but now I want to be armed badly....
Levi Jenkins
These Sweden memes are all Sup Forums just making shit up right? There's no way a country can be this cucked.
Luke King
This is one of the most disturbing things I've ever read desu.
Bentley Perez
Do you have a better source? I find that hard to believe. Once someone threatens your life (pointing a gun at you), you're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. Even here where socialist legislation is still in place (life>property idea basically), law clearly states that you don't have to run even if you potentially could run. You can kill a man who threatens your life. So yeah, give me a source that's not right-wing portal because I find it impossible, this is insanity.
Brody Torres
I give this story an A for effort and a C- for believability
Nolan Cruz
May Dolph Lundgren have mercy on your souls.
Connor Smith
Sounds reasonable. Most niggers aren't used to Swedes defending themselves, especially not with weapons.
>Instead, he was approached by two men, who pointed a gun at him. The gun later turned out to be an air pistol. >The 19 year old man damaged one of the robbers in self-defense, but the robber was so badly injured he later died. >The court finds that the 19 year old did act in self-defense, but finds that he used more force than was necessary. The court sentences him to 2 years in prison for manslaughter.
Kayden Young
How's that strange? "Excessive self defense" (read; all self defense) is illegal in most of europe.
Your best bet is hope nothing ever to happens to you, but in case it does you'd better have good connections in the system.
Leo Reyes
>Is this the end of the rule of law in Sweden?
even Jesus's disciples carried swords
take the cross out of your flag, antichrist
Noah James
How is stabbing someone armed with a gun "excessive"? You can't run. Calling for help will do no good, you'll be dead before police arrives. Your only option is to kill them before they kill you. There is no time for rational thinking, you have to act as fast as you can.
Wyatt Robinson
Yeah, and that's fucking madness. In this case the court even agrees that the guy didn't even actively stab the robber & that the death was unintentional and took place some time after the robbery took place.
Hudson Rogers
Thanks. This is a ridicule of law. He has a right to appeal right? At worst he can appeal to ECHR and win. Is there a name of judge(s) who passed this sentence? When someone is threatening you with a weapon, no defense is excessive. So you're wrong. It those cases defense can only be excessive if you disarmed your opponent and then proceed to injure him or kill him, if he was lying on ground for example. But as long as he hold the weapon and threatens you, you're allowed to do whatever you can to neutralize him, even kill him.
Eli Brown
Let's be honest, the outcome wouldn't be different in any other western European country
Josiah Turner
how can this shit even happen?
how fucked do you have to be in the head to think self defense is illegal and that in a split second you have to worry about the life of the attacker that wants to take yours.
Christopher Russell
Well, he's going to prison, so he should be happy about moving to the whitest neighborhood in Sweden.
Isaiah Kelly
>neutralize or (gasp!) kill him
That's the authorities' job, citizen ;^) And your thinking is naive. "fighting back" is suicidal whether you win or not. If you are going to do it better go all the way and try to get rid of the corpse.
Adam Parker
What the fuck even is Europe?
My neighbor shot a guys truck full of holes for egging his house and the police weren't even called.
If this happened here in Texas the Swedish guy would be on the news as a hero.
Jack Miller
Jesus Christ, Sweden
Over here a robber broke into a man's house while he was home. The owner ended up chasing the robber onto the front lawn, and killing him with a fucking hammer over a suitcase the robber had taken with him.
He's a free man. And we're the country of DUDE WEED
Lucas Perez
So they robbed him, and then threatened him with a gun? This is a precedent. They threatened him with a gun. Then they established he didn't want to kill this guy. I assure you that no sane judge(s) would sentence someone for this (if this is how it happened).
David Thomas
Just die already, Sweden. I'm tired of watching you suffer.
Juan Moore
Yes I'm pretty sure he would also get sentenced in Germany, UK, France, Switzerland, etc.
Dominic Rogers
>How is stabbing someone armed with a gun "excessive"? Pretty sure that just using a knife, even if you don't cut anything with it, falls into the "excessive" category here.
Alexander Sanchez
Couldnt anyone just kill all jews,muslim and niggers and cucks serving the jewish agenda in Swedem from now on and then sue them if they defend themself?,
How are they going to stop us? Kill us? Its illegal now, lol
Anthony Campbell
Again, false, I studied law and European law is generally similar in basic norms. Excessive defense doesn't apply when your life is threatened. You're thinking of cases of theft, where owner injures thief gravely, or kills him. That is excessive defense of your property, because communists held that life is more valuable than any property. And you're allowed to defend your property, but not excessively (causing grave bodily harm). But it doesn't apply in this case.
Ethan Reyes
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James Watson
Yeah he will probably appeal to Supreme Court.
Hard to say. This case is extraordinary because the court actively agrees that: 1) The guy did not actively stab the robber 2) The guy unintentionally killed the robber in self-defense 3) The robber did not die at the location of the robbery, but died within 1 hour on a different location 4) The victim of the robbery did not know the robber was critically injured and had no intention of killing him. 5) The victim of the robbery was in a legitimate position of self-defense and had a gun pointed to his head
The court's arguments are just absurd. According to the official documents, the court argues that the victim of the robbery "had an opportunity to scream for help" and "had the opportunity to run from the grips of the robbers, or could at least have attempted to run".
The court sentences him to 2 years in prison on grounds that, quote: >"The 19 year old man showed purposeful negligence at the moment of the robbery. The level of force used in his act of self-defense is OBVIOUSLY unjustified and the court determines that the circumstances were not such that the 19 year old was unable to bethink himself".
Cameron Powell
wait the dopey sandwog even killed himself? Ebin
Aaron King
Jesus christ the officials involved in that case have no grasp on reality, the last thing you think about when you are attacked with a weapon is "Gee, I wonder how I can defend myself without killing the guy."
WHEN WILL REASONABLE SWEDES START A SEPARATIST MOVEMENT WITHIN SWEDEN!?
Stop paying taxes and live in a kibbutz with like minded individuals and violently defend against government encroachment.
The muslims do it so can the native swedes.
David Smith
they were just trying to appropriate funds from a privileged cis white male to help them buy some bread for their starving families and he went and stabbed them
Blake Rodriguez
Do you Swede bros think its gonna be bad when this cultural pendulum inevitably swings back in the other direction? Are you going to go full Fash, or just reinstitute western civilization? Or is it going to be when Sweden becomes a caliphate?
Mason Bell
We had a case a couple of years ago. An old man waited for Irish Travellers to come around to his house. He shot one of them in the back and then beat him on the ground with a stick. It was eventually ruled to be self defence.
The government then clarified that you can legally kill someone if they attack you or threaten your home.
Lincoln Lopez
Please tell me the proper way for citizens to defend themselves against someone armed with a gun and with the intent to kill you.
Jose Perry
Holy shit. At first I thought the whole race war thing would be joke, like the people would come to their senses and just send them back.
Robert King
How to fix Sweden
€ 500 paid per kill € 1000 for a multi-kill € 1800 for a triple kill € 2500 for a quad kill € 5000 for a rampage € 10.000 for a monster kill
Jayden Hill
Hopefully we will mirror the Finnish civil war, especially the aftermath.
Xavier Roberts
I hope Sweden dies and goes in a civil war. Sweden should not be considerd a Nordic country any more. I'm just glad walking with knifes in my country is considerd normal
Cameron Baker
Do you actually have a link to the article or are you gonna expect us to believe your bullshit story because we're "such good friends"?
Parker Bailey
My guess is the court simply considers it normal robbery and drops the whole gun in the head and "shoot him" as attempts to scare. Again I'm surprised non yuros are shocked at this. It's pretty normal.
Wyatt Lopez
if it happened here in texas the two would be robbers would still be arrested
Alexander Moore
It swings like it did in Germany.
Fiscal insolvency is the trigger. Cops and soldiers don't show up if they aren't paid.
Lincoln Adams
Would the courts ruling have been the same if the attackers were Swedish?
Self defense laws and stand your ground laws are a fucking joke in Europe. You literally have no rights
William Sanders
This shit is beyond a joke Sweden. Its demoralizing to just here this shit, let alone live it. Sort your fucking shit out
Justin Barnes
Isn't Swedish prison basically just vacation?
Sebastian Scott
Sweden will be studied centuries from now as a case study of behavioral sink.
Colton Sanders
So now murderous criminal shit bags have more rights than legitimate victims of crime. So begins the end of a nation.
Aaron Perry
They can't do that. Armed robbery is a threat to your life. You are allowed to kill him.
Jayden Kelly
I'll still take killing whatever cunt is trying to end my life and then going to jail over lying down and taking it.
It's a completely useless deterrent. When your only choices are to die or go to jail then you don't really have a choice to begin with and the punishment is pointless.
David Sanders
Swedish posters, I expect to hear of lynchings within the month.
Get to it, or turn in your testicles at the nearest police station.
Easton Roberts
I would rampage if I were this kid. Kidnap and rape the wife of the judge. Start murdering shitskins in broad daylight.
hypothetically lel :^)
Ethan Nelson
Your government treats foreign thieves and rapists like they are sacred, 3rd world men with double digit IQ. They your own young men like they are expendable.
I wouldn't blame you no matter what. I just don't want to see a war in Europe like that though.
MEXICO is even calling sweden a shithole. Jesus christ, this is a new low. Even for Sweden.
Ayden Garcia
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Dylan Evans
I mean damn, how can a country be so shit to the point that it's illegal to defend yourself againts sand niggers pulling guns and knives on you?
I'm sorry, but that is the ultimate shit pit.
William Wilson
Fuck you Sweden.
Dylan Thompson
seems to be the case for police officers though.
Joseph Baker
You're completely right. At that point the government is admitting that your life is worth less than that of the assailants.
I've read lots of articles on people shooting home invaders/robbers/muggers here in the states, and I have yet to see one where any of them were convicted. I think this is actually the first time I've ever seen anyone in any country convicted for what the court admits to be self defense. Usually if they get convicted it's because the court ruled it was not self defense
Isaiah Jackson
Man if I wasn't on a mobile Id be tempted to get a Canadian IP and say something like >Yeah! He should've got a life sentence!
Thomas Sanchez
lol british bring bantz
Andrew Gutierrez
Swedish men you now have an obligation to free that man from jail by force, hold a hearing, and pardon him. How far will you let this go?
Parker White
I was going to say something along the lines of: "Ahahahaha, fucking cucks, kill urself", but then I remembered >old man in gypsy-infested village gets house invasion >he knows they're going to beat him to death because gyppos >pulls gun and shoots on in the hand >they all run away >old man is arrested as well >the fucking gyppo actually presses charges for damages to his person (a stitched up hand)
America, pls invade, Europe is beyond saving ;_;
Blake Powell
>It's not normal to get your testicles bitten off, of course, but it can happen, especially now in Sweden.
Fucking kek I didn't even read it too carefully
Zachary Cooper
The remaining white people should immediately flee Sweden now, this verdict is a siren call to criminals of colour to take from you whatever and whenever they wish. Get out now, keep your friends and family safe. Dont delay.
Noah Wilson
Was the victim white? Let me guess.
Justin Clark
The first amendment and the second are the foundation of a free society. One gives you a peaceful means to protest a corrupt government. The second allows you to remove it if your protests go unheard. People think this speech is just vitriol. I assure you its not. Millions of americans, enough to make it matter, take this very seriously. What the average happy suburban family fails to understand is that those millions are literally hanging by a thread praying we turn around so we don't have to burn this corruption to the ground. I can not comprehend how Europe allowed itself to get to the point it's at now. It is truly sad.
Nathan Moore
>Nigger pointing gun at your face >He could have run or call for help Can we finally bomb this shit stain country?
Kevin Foster
It is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
Adam Bell
World wars sonny, the bravest died the sanest fled the resistant broke the rest got indoctrinated
I am grateful for commies now, they tried to beat us so much, that they kept our pride and culture intact.
Nolan Hill
>Courts sentencing people for defending themselves or their property
Noah Baker
One hundred million dead in wars in a 30 year period will do that to a continent.
What Americans forget is that they've almost reached the point that Europe is (and in many cases, worse) without any sort of conflict or prolonged violence on their territory since the US Civil War. Since the US Civil War, Europe has been far and away the most violent place on earth.
If WW1, WW2, the Spanish, Greek, Irish, German and various other civil wars and revolutions had happened in the United States you wouldn't have anything like the "rights" you have now. What's more impressive that Europe has actually managed to salvage anything and maintain any sort of standard of living.
The US brought in the AWB, Patriot Act, mass surveillance, capital punishment en masse over a few very small scale incidents, which in relative terms is far more reactionary.
Lucas Howard
I hope the judge gets robbed by some niggers
Tyler Ramirez
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Nolan Davis
Need an english article to redpill normies OP
Colton Price
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Jason Taylor
Gather as many Swedes as possible and do what needs to be done.
Wyatt Gutierrez
Sweden yes. I am sad for you few surviving self-conscious Swedes.
Ryder Gomez
A mass black on Swede bukkake orgy won't fix this.
Jack Martinez
Accept your fate and recite some appropriate verses from The Holy Quran while apologizing for being a white christian cis male.
Duh.
Colton Sanchez
Is it reactionary when the laws are written before the event that supposedly prompts them?
Zachary Powell
rassist wite g ot wat eh desserted
Brayden Gonzalez
if you a are not white and life beyond prison is worse
Alexander James
This, please come to American and help make us white again.
Mason Anderson
Not sure why the defendant isn't appealing this to a higher instance (maybe he is). As is the weight of this verdict is quite weak since it was done in the lowest court.
Adrian Johnson
>literally holding a knife still and letting someone else walk into it, WHILE POINT A GUN AT YOU is illegal
Owen Brooks
Meanwhile, in a civilized society
Aaron Hughes
If it happened in his home then he could have used any means necessary
Brody Jones
>just run away from the bullets honestly sweden deserves to be engulfed in the flames of mud-dom at this point. they're actively trying to destroy their own country, like some sort of mass suicide on a cultural level. pretty interesting desu.
Grayson Rodriguez
Captain Sweden strikes again
Austin Moore
it happens in some states in the US as well, unfortunately. anyone not loyal to Texas more so than the country itself is doomed these days.
>tfw my fantasy is Texas and Alaska teaming up to save the world
