How does one get into opera for real? I don't really have time or even the possibility (I live in the middle of nowhere) to watch real life performances. I listen to some overtures and arias from here and there but never have I ever even listened trough a whole performance since it just turns out to be some random foreign dialogue accompanied by harpsichord arpeggios and etc. I know enough to know that I should watch video recordings of the performances with subtitles so I guess I would appreciate some recommendations on operas and good recorded performances on them, just don't recommend me some boring and mild italian operas please.
Brayden Gonzalez
>tfw you realize Tendies at your work cost $4.00 and aren't really that good
>implying anyone on /r9k/ knows good suggestions for classical music for my feels
Justin Sanders
There's lots of full operas on youtube with subs but they get taken down regularly so it is difficult to recommend any particular one. You might start with short operas: Dido & Aeneas, Pagliacci, Cavalleria rusticana, La Voix Humaine, Bluebeard's Castle. Wagner started the trend to make opera continuous drama, before him it tended to be more fragmented and seemingly random squarking. Try Das Rheingold or Lohengrin, the italians did similar with verismo, try Puccini's Madam Butterfly or La Boheme. If you want it in English try Britten, Adams, Glass.
Jacob Russell
>implying you can roam Sup Forums as an underage frogposter and complain about tendies to get (You)s and feel good about yourself and to fill the empty void inside you.
Nathan Gomez
Thanks for the recommendations. Can't help but to think that there should be a /classical/ opera folder since it would be practical.
David Young
>Implying I'm underage when I'm 23
Oliver Collins
Please let it be noted that General Folder #2 is no longer available. If any user has the backup, please update accordingly. /classical/ cannot survive without those sweet romantic pieces
i'm not sure if you're asking why i don't like it now or why i ever liked it in the first place i still do enjoy it, i just used to listen to it way more than i do now
Fauré has always been blissful and meditative for me.
Andrew Gonzalez
please respond why does nobody respond to my posts
Colton Anderson
I'm not that familiar with Schumann so I wouldn't be much help. But i don't know maybe like a Claire de Lune or something. THere is a piece I hear in my head but I can't think of what it's called that sounds like this, but has more ornaments more trills and what not. I think It's one of the Well Tempered Claviers (but I can't remember the number or the book)
I want to get into classical music, however I don't really know where to start, is there any 'subgenres' or styles I should be aware of? What characterizes these styles?
How can I get better at listening and understanding classical music?
I can't tell what makes classical music good besides pure aesthetic appeal
Alexander Perry
something that helped me a lot was getting to know forms and what forms pieces are written beethoven's first symphony is a good example because of how prominent the melodies are - the first movement is written in sonata form, which means there's an exposition of a few themes, a 'development' section which expands/modifies the original themes, and a recapitulation which returns to the main theme in the tonic key. In this movement there's also an intro and coda. The second and fourth movements also use this form. Videos with visual diagrams like this one can help you interpret the music as more than just pleasant sound. youtube.com/watch?v=MPlJOVYJTxY also learning to read music if you don't already is important - if only so you can follow the contours of separate parts and how they interact with each other. there are tonne of videos of pieces on YT with read-along scores
Take a music history 101 paper at university / college
Carter Davis
ok i just saw shostakovich's string quartet no.13 performed live and it was mesmerizing. totally different from listening to a recording. feel like i've broken through on 20th century music somehow. really great experience. Emerson Quartet performing in NYC.
Aiden Clark
I've studied music theory and composition pretty extensively actually, but I have a shit ear and am really bad at analyzing pieces as I hear them
Leo Bennett
There's a great looking year-long music history course at my uni, part 1 is up to 1750 and then part 2 from then to the present.
Unfortunately you have to take some useless "performance" 101 as a prerequisite.
I guess I'll just pick up Taruskin's history instead.
Jaxon Phillips
keep confusing mendelssohn and mahler
what are the musical differences between them?
Easton Howard
I'm bad at ear stuff, I'm better with the forms not the intervals and what not. I feel you pain, but that hasn't stopped me from writing stuff
Liam Phillips
everything. Mendelssohn was an early 19th century German composer. He wrote symphonies, vocal music, chamber music, has a famous violin concerto, string octet, and his 'Songs without words' piano solo is really renowned. Mahler was Austrian and is pretty much only known for his extremely lavish, long-scale symphonies.
Samuel Myers
im hearing bach's sonatas and partitas and all im hearing is harmonic minor noodling and diminshed to minor chord progression rinse and repeat to next mode. is this supposed to be great?
Any other instrument late starters? How are you managing? Has anyone made it?
>mfw
Grayson Fisher
why /classical/ is jealous of Chopin?
Austin Clark
and both are jews
Ethan Jones
Either her or Huge Wang
Adam Lee
It's just typical hating on anything liked by normies
Evan Thompson
Does anyone hate it when there's a short melody or theme that only lasts a few seconds and doesn't return? Post examples.
Dominic Sanchez
Are you a late starter if you quit for like half a decade?
Luis Walker
Late starter. I started piano at 23 with no music background
Isaiah Roberts
So even though I started at 13 and have 2 semesters of a performance degree under my belt, I qualify as a later start because I have not touched my instrument or written music in over 5 years?
Christopher Jackson
If you feel you are then your are
Luke Walker
>is this supposed to be great? Very much so, and they are great, both to listen to and as a seminal example of solo violin writing and a standard for performance. Incredible pieces full of emotion.
I've heard a lot of people saying that everybody who plays the piano should play as much Bach as they can...So my question is which composer(s) should be studied in such manner after studying Bach? Other baroque, classical, romantic, late romantic or modern composer(s)?
Landon Martin
I'd say liszt at some point but there has to be something to fill that gap first.
Liam Long
I'm a piano player and here's the best tip anybody could give you: play what you like
Luis Thomas
how to become classical music encyclopedia?
Connor Campbell
But shouldn't piano technique be gained by stabile and carefull means instead of whim? Of course I want to be able to play the pieces that I like but before doing so I want a good and stabile foundation on my playing so that I can be able to play them the way they were meant to be instead of just half-assing them. It's also a lot harder to correct an incorrect way of playing than to learn the piece in a right manner from the very beginning.
Thomas Hernandez
Read classical music encyclopedias and make flash cards or memo's
