Guns don't kill people, people kill people! Don't ban guns

>guns don't kill people, people kill people! Don't ban guns

>Islam causes death! Ban Islam

Fucking conservatard logic

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so was it the gun or the islam that killed those people in san bernadino?

Ideology promotes action.
Guns are objects.
You're a dumbass.

This

Seriously you didn't think this through did you?

You're comparing apples to oranges faggot

Islam is an ideology a gun is a tool

>The 2nd amendment doesn't stem from any philosophy or ideals

The 2nd amendment doesn't tell you to go out and kill the infidels.

Ideology tends to influence people quite heavily. Tools are just there to help people do things more effectively, they won't influence a man's actions on their own. It's not exactly difficult to make your own projectile weapon either, guns aren't some sort of magical artifacts forged from pixie dust and evil.

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Wake me when federal agents and politicians are being shot on a daily basis. No wait, don't wake me.

>this gun that kills people shouldn't be banned but this 'ideology' that does the same thing should!

Goes to show how retarded conservatards really are

911 & boston marathon were done without guns? the common denominator is islam

The gun doesn't kill people. The faggot holding it does.
Again, you are a fucking dumbass.

>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms to shoot anyone they don't like, shall not be infringed."

Ah I found the version you're quoting!

It technically does give you the right to kill an oppressive gubmint. Americans literally think they're cowboys in some fairy tale. The message of the founders has been perverted by the radical right.

case in point

The ideology persuades people to do so

Simply having a gun doesnt make you want to kill faggot

Neither does the Quran

>Make statement.
>Get proven wrong.
>still saying that statement for attention.

Baiting is ruining this board.

>OPs mom suck nigger dicks
>OP is a son of a bitch

What's wrong with that logic?

You don't know if I am conservative
you don't know if I support guns
you don't know if I am against Islam.
You can't even read from what I make out of your post.

An ideology and an object are not the same thing, what's so hard to understand?

Simply having the Islamic ideology doesn't convince you to kill people. How come all 1.2 billion muslims aren't murdering?

forces must be equal

>t.strawman

They are, daily.

You seem to be confusing ideology with weaponry.

>one is an inanimate object with no will or thought

>the other is an ideology with thinking and functioning individuals that promotes the killing of their enemies

Islam doesn't kill people. Muslims kill people. Ban muslims.

Stupid libtards can't into simple ecuations.

No, the message from the founders is still the exact same. We're allowed to have firearms for the purpose of defending America from all threats foreign and domestic.
Shall not be infringed was deliberate.
The Islamic Hadiths do. Can't be Muslim without following those too.

>How come all 1.2 billion muslims aren't murdering?
Highly doubtful.

>How come all 1.2 billion muslims aren't murdering?
They are lazy and don't follow Islam very well? It would be inconvenient to act on their supposed beliefs.

If guns don't kill people, the guns win.

Religion kills people, not just Islam. But we can't ban it because muhh tradition, muhh legacy muhh ancestors etc.

Again, as others have asked you to do, please point out how something that doesn't say what I quoted and instead says "Here is a natural right we won't fuck with" is the same as a book/philosophy that commands adherents to kill those who don't join up.

Nowhere does the Second Amendment exhort readers to kill those who think guns should be removed/regulated. There are no "technical" rights.

Islam doesn't kill people. The terrorist using it does

Who's the dumbass now, conservacuck?

thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

Not all of them are obviously, but there are some who disobay the Quran and do not kill infidels 9:5

The Quran literally tells you to kill infedels, gays, apostates, atheists, and basically anyone who disagrees with islam or isnt muslim. It is used by many terrorist organizations as a justification for their violence

You can own a firearm in a peaceful manor
you cannot be a good Muslim in a peaceful manor

>You can infringe on my other rights but not muh guns!

No, there are either 1. The Ruler(s) of a nation
2. The ruled

everything else is illusion. You think you have power, but the rest of the world is laughing at this country and rightfully so.

terrorist motivation stems from their religion

Take this (You)

Feel better now?

Guns have the ability to kill, they don't tell you to kill.

Islam tells you to kill people.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them".

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"

uran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost."

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who kill those whom disbelieve in His cause"

Muslim (31:5918) - "I will fight them until they are like us." Ali's reply to Muhammad, after receiving clarification that the attack Khaibar on was to convert the people.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

muh context
You see, unbelievers of the time were all literally spawns of satan so it was alright to kill them.

The terrorist following it kills people because he was told to wage holy war by his religious leaders.
So yes, Islam is at total fault.
Without guns you cannot defend your rights from worthless foreigners who come into your great country and start trying to change it into the shithole that they came from.
If you don't like guns you aren't American and really need to get the fuck out before we throw your ass into the ocean.

ITT: skooling leftists

51st state tier

Like you understand the message of the founders. You're a corrupt leftist traitor who will bend over and invite fascism into America without a second thought.

Terrorists are forced to turn to extremism because of the imperialism of fucking white countries. Learn some history retards

Islam has been committing what we would call "terrorism" for 1600 years, the entire time its been around.

Then let's just ban people!

The US literally has a gun for every man woman and child, if only 10% of the country picked up arms and fought against the government they would be on Capital Hill declaring the New Republic the week after. We are ruled but the people have a way of fucking up the rulers when shit hits the fan, unlike Europe who jusy gets cucked by Big Brother EU

I'll feel better when the Abrahamic faiths are removed from this planet so we can finally live Star Trek reality.

Do you really think you are more civilized than Muslims? Deep down in your heart you know you are all the same.

>If you don't like guns you aren't American
>need to get the fuck out before we throw your ass into the ocean.

>2nd Amendment trumps the first

You people are disillusioned to no end. The 2nd amendment shouldn't even have to be exercised in this day and age, you fucking mongs just need to vote better.

Which will never happen btw

You will lose all your other rights and still think you are free with that semi-auto pee shooter you call a weapon.

Guns aren't people
Muslims (arguably) are

>what are the Barbary wars
wew lad

so 911 was whiteys fault?

everything puny hooman

Islam is a fanatical cult, so yes, it should be banned

>ban muslims

There, fixed it for you dumbass.

Christianity has been committing what we would call "genocide" for 2016 years, the entire time it's been around, you see the fault in your logic?

see

We're going to wipe out every single one of you sandnigger mudslimes, don't you worry.

Ever heard of the crusades? What about Israel? White people have been attacking muslims since ever, of course they'll retaliate eventually, even if they are peace-loving people

If you think you're anti-gun, you're not really anti-gun because guns will be required to force people to hand over their guns.

So really you're not against guns, you just think it would be better if only the government has them.

...because governments have shown us time and again how much we can trust them when they're the only ones with the guns, right?

this guy is saying 911 was justified...

A FUCKING WHITE MALE

Too obvious

By that logic we shouldnt ban guns, just ban people with guns. I love it!

>>guns don't kill people, people kill people! Don't ban guns
Guns by themselves do not kill people.
Also, the Jews are behind gun control.

>>Islam causes death! Ban Islam
Islam should be banned because it's a non-White and anti-White religion.

>Fucking conservatard logic
Well it's a good thing I'm a National Socialist then.
Conservatives are just as bad as liberals.

yeah like, just today i killed that salad, but not that pork, cause I don't eat pigs

>crusades happened a thousand years ago
>they're just now retaliating
That's not how things work faggot
Also the crusades were to defend people from muslims even though the crusaders were edgy evil fags

>guns kill people
>Islam is religion of peace
>weapons in the hands of Islamists fire themselves
librul logic

By the way, what you have presented is not an argument, newfriend.

Nobody is saying "ban Islam"

aren't you supposed to be fasting?

reported to the sharia patrol

Actually, Christianity has done things that are as bad as Muslims, yes. The difference being they stopped committing terrible acts for the most part, meanwhile, Muslims have never stopped.

Your "2016 years" shit doesn't make sense, because Christians are not the ones committing terrorist acts nearly every day and having wars in the name of Christianity and have not done so in a very long time. Even if this does happen, not that many people ever agree with it. 1 in 4 muslims think suicide bombing is sometimes justified.

I'm a fucking atheist and even I can see the clear difference between Muslims and Christians. Yes, religion is a cancer upon the earth and usually leads people to do immoral things, etc but Christians these days hardly listen to the book at all, hence they stopped doing many of the terrible things it would tell them to. Muslims however still listen to the Quran and everything it tells them for the most part.

see

sounds logical to me

yeah like compairing the nazis with the red khmer, very well, very clever,
drumpfling

>Nobody is saying "ban Islam"
I am. I totally am.

Ban Islam!

See? I said it.

No, I'm not being ironic or edgy. I honestly believe Islam should be banned from White countries.

Blown the fuck out within two posts. God, I'm so glad that being a liberal has become cringeworthy and embarrassing.

No one forced them to do shit, it's what they've been doing since the beginning of Islam.
Don't like it, get the fuck out, Europe loves people like you.

>drumpfling

GTFO back to durka durka land, Mehmet. Deutschland ist und bleibt Drumpf.

Cool Analogy Ahmed!!!

>Have no argument
>Get humiliated by facts
>Scramble, huu huu huu drumpf
God you're so pathetic. All leftists are. To have such contempt for facts, you're like Creationists.

Islam is people.

>Don't like it, get the fuck out

Much freedom, many liberteenz

You need to watch a documentary series called Holy War.

Muslims have always done terrible things. You're talking about things Christians do that are hundreds of years apart each time, meanwhile Muslims have been doing violent things non stop since it began.

Do you not have any fucking clue about when Muslims/The moors went into Africa from the middle east, converted them all to Muslims then sailed thousands ships to Europe from Africa to try take over Europe by giving Christian Europeans the ultimatum "Convert or die"? There were massive wars because of this.

You only listen to your leftist echo chamber and don't seem to try research anything on your own.

wow
imbecile.

lol i'm no muslim, but i know some: some of them eat pig and some do not do any fasting.. but thats none of my buissnes

This. We just dont want them in our countrys, expecially when THEY are the ones that want's to ban our culture and our ways while forcing Sharia and their own shitty ways (that made everything turn to shit in the first place) upon us all. They can continue on worshipping their blood god in their own shitholes and kill eachothers for all I care, just get the fuck out from Europe.

>See non-argument
Treason is not free speech.

Eh, Islam can stay for all I care. I'm also fine with just banning all Muslims :^)

Crusades were a form of retaliation for the never ending muslim invasion of the western world.

As soon as Islam was created they started savaging, pigaging and conquering. There's been nothing else they've done, that's what's been passed generation after generation: conquer.

The guns are just for a worst case scenario, we still vote and many try to keep our rights intact without violence, but both libs and republicans just seem to want to fuck us over and its kinda our fault because we let them, especially with the presidents and their executive actions

Make a list of all the things Islam forbids. Now make a list of all the things Christianity forbids.

Make a list of all the angels and demons in Islam. Now make a list of all the Christian ones.

Fuck, when will Christians and Muslims learn they are just a rehash of Judaism. At least Zoroastrians were unique with that fire worshipping shit.

You have the freedom to leave if you can't live here without trying to remove our rights.
You don't have a right to be safe.

Right she may be, but it doesn't matter. I'll explain why.

I'm for strict gun control because I believe in the benefits of state power, but Hillary is lying. As President, she'll do anything she can to jeopardize any attempts at gun grabbing. See, in the USA, the government is there to ensure maximum market domination for American businesses, and without the extremely lucrative market of American households buying firearms, those pesky German ingrates would be one big leap closer to becoming the undisputed #1 in international arms sales. There's absolutely no way either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would allow that to happen.

Islam is a shitty mix of a vulgar, primitive and violent culture / religion you dipshit.

Not all fingers are thumbs but all thumbs are fingers.

Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorist are muslims.

Fight me.

how can you speak about gettig humilliatad by facts, you should drown in shame