Is this the most pathetic album the UK has ever shat out? I love how Britfags act like you "just don't get it" whenever you criticize this piece of shit album and claim that you have to be British "to truly understand."
What a crock of shit. I've listened to plenty of UK garage and dubstep and I enjoy a lot of it. But Untrue is just a bullshit album and it's ridiculous how Angloids will defend it and go on about muh British dance culture like it's so unique and nobody else can possibly get it
I don't hate the album. There's lots of bad music. Bad music isn't unique to the UK (although they certainly produce a lot of it).
What I hate is this pretentious, pseudo-ingellectual culture that Angloids have about their dance scene that outsiders "just don't understand m8"
Samuel Campbell
>schau mal mama ich bin kein britischer lel
Ian Reed
album is unironically great. Come back to it when you're older friendo :^)
Jaxon Martin
pretty sure prodigy did worse
Jace Myers
t. 18 year old college kid You'll grow out of your p4k phase in a couple years big guy
Juan Brooks
Where are you pulling this bullshit from? I'm British and can attest to the fact that no one here is like that, we celebrate the fact that certain artists and producers can break America or other international audiences.
>I don't hate the album >"Is this the most pathetic album the UK has ever shat out?" You sound very insecure and contradictory. At least know what you're criticising before shitposting
Brody Mitchell
Did you just discover Sup Forums yesterday kid
This shit is all over this board. >durrrr silly burgers can't understand our music am I right m8 >haha yeah Nigel we're so much smarter and better. Have you heard the new Radiohead album bruv
Asher Miller
mate i dont complain when i cant understand lil dead retard or whatever you lot listen to. Different strokes for different folks x
Jeremiah Cruz
Can some one explain the whole 56% thing to me? I know it has something to do with race, but I'm not sure what, unless it's the whole muslims in Europe thing which I am familiar with.
Grayson Diaz
>you don't like it so therefore you don't understand it It's just a shit album you snaggle toothed *nglo. Get over yourself.
I say that as someone who genuinely enjoys a lot of UK garage and dubstep.
Levi Thompson
>It's just a shit album you snaggle toothed *nglo it's not though mate. It's okay that you don't like it, I wouldn't expect you to, it's not really aimed at americans xox
Robert Anderson
>british Sup Forumstant attitudes are typical of British attitudes in general fuck off with your retarded false equivalencies, you're letting this isolated bubble dictate how you perceive other nationalities. You really should get outside more
see pic related. Its a meme used to enrage Americans (most likely from/pol/) who like to think of themselves as pure aryan race through and through, when really Amerimutts are the mongrels of the western world
imagine getting THIS upset that a musician isnt aiming for american audiences
Caleb Hill
>I enjoy a lot of UK garage and dubstep good for you. Unfortunately artists like Burial, The Bug or pic related are very much attuned to their cultural and architectural geography, which makes it very hard for other people to appreciate it until they've walked along the southbank at 5am in the rain listening to Etched Headplate. It's an environmental thing rather than an "understanding"
Dylan Anderson
I like the Bug though you gargantuan faggot
Jayden Cruz
I know this is bait but do you even feel OP?
Other than your butthole that is.
Jaxon Torres
You're leaking nazi again, schwanzkopf.
Kayden Miller
I like it and I'm not British It's fine for you to not like something good that other people do, you know that right?
Samuel Martin
>The Bug >Phenomenomenon one Phenomenomenon one Phenomenomenon one
Isaiah Gonzalez
Burgers don't claim that you have to be a beatnick in the village to appreciate The Velvet Underground. You don't have to be a coked up chav to understand Burial or The Bug.
Kayden Richardson
i can tell that from the fact you're speaking german you utter mong whats the point of this post
Connor Foster
>p4k phase >look mom, I don't go outside so I think internet forums and music critics are the only way people discover music
Leo Johnson
Again, good for you. But you're exactly the kind of fan which British producers absolutely loathe, because you're a consumer with zero appreciation for the culture and environment it was born out of. You're so fucking entitled, its no wonder some of the british posters on here don't think you deserve to listen to our music
Jose King
>You don't have to be a coked up chav to understand Burial or The Bug ummm, AKSHUALLY sweaty
Jaxon Perry
You don't, but those are bad examples because your average coked up chav won't have heard of burial or the bug (although there's a chance they might've heard SKENG). I was simply saying that so much of their appeal hinges on their cultural relevancy, a culture which is completely alien to Americans that for them its more like looking into an alien world, whereas for us it feels more localised and personal.
Kayden Myers
I think your example of specifically south bank to understand is a bit OTT, but yeah it does help to listening to it while walking around a council estate in the rain
Elijah Cruz
This thread is the biggest waste of time I've seen today. No one cares that you don't like it op, and everyone trying to convince op that he's a fag is talking to a brick wall with autism.
Christopher Morgan
oof
Thomas Bell
>your example of specifically southbank to understand is a bit OTT lol maybe, but its the best point of reference for me. Back in my teenage years I'd skate there damn near everyday, rain or shine, and I'd have Burial on constant repeat so both the place and the atmosphere of the music have a very intertwined nostalgia to them
Isaac Green
From what I get from this album is that it deals with the basic positive emotions that average young people have. It's not something pretty though. Since they don't require joy, only pleasure, they are only able to experience joyful emotions subconsciously. Without being conscious, these emotions don't involve any depth, taste, or any aspect of beauty, only a sense of protection from the lack of individual stability. This album is not a study about these kinds of emotions, but a cheesy and stilted way of spoonfeeding and idolizing a shallow emotional mindset. It's not at all surprising that this album is this successful.
Aiden Bailey
What a load of pop-psychological wank
There are reasonable ways to argue that this album isn't good, but this isn't one of them. Talking about the "emotions" of a record is not the same as critiquing its content
Benjamin Gomez
>t. average young person
Dylan Clark
You literally said nothing about the music while shitting all over it. Either point to concrete examples of how these shallow emotions are manifest in the musical content, or fuck off. For someone who claims to be an old geezer, your capacity for legitimate criticism seems desperately immature
Josiah Gray
You are being very defensive of the fact that you have never consciously experienced joy.
Kevin Thomas
And you are dodging the question. Either post legit criticism that isn't unfalsifiable psychoanalytic garbage wholly unrelated to the music, or fuck off
Thomas Nelson
Not TVU, but you def need to have an understanding of blues music to truly get Blind Joe Death.
>the rest of the criticism in thid thread Americanocentrism is strong on this board. Dance musicreally isn't worth talking about outside of /bleep/, let US soyboys circlejerk over Aphex Twin and OPN in peace.
Gavin Hughes
I love it But the Kindred & Traunt / Rough Sleeper EPs are better
Ryan Jenkins
Americans suffer an existential crisis every time they stumble upon a culture that their markets haven't spoonfed them.
Isaac Howard
>it deals with the basic positive emotions that average young people have except that isn't at all what it's about
Bentley Brooks
>OP makes a claim that Brits act a certain way >Brits argue with OP by acting exactly the way he described Nice
Adam Ramirez
This is probably my least favorite burial album but it is still quality friend. why are you angry
Cameron Foster
>OP acts like an entitled child >OP gets mad when people call him an entitled child Nice
Nathan Myers
i dunno friends im not british but i like it probably because it sounds good and it makes me feel things that i enjoy cause its real nice sounding you know like all the songs on the album are like real good
Hudson Lee
Yeah fair enough it is a good album. I do think it's maybe less accessible to Americans tho
Isaac Allen
What does entitlement have to do with any of this you dumb rat
Josiah Hernandez
>yeah m8 basic dance beats with some pitch shifted vocals and urban noise samples are totally experimental and inaccessible bruv
Jaxon Torres
I'm not so sure about that. I think what makes the album really work for me is not so much it's indebtedness to UK club music, but the fact that Burial is really good at expressing emotions of longing and melancholy, the drums are really unique and have a really unique sound to them, and the way he manipulates vocals is just fantastic.
I can sorta appreciate that to some extent there is that extra layer of UK in it, but on an emotional level it should resonate universally and in terms of the sound and style, it might not be as familiar to Americans or most people outside the UK, but I think the fact that American critics also raved about it (if not as much as UK publications) should say enough.
Henry Long
>I can't stand people liking something I don't
Zachary Kelly
I hate the awful high pitched vocals, absolutely destroys any value this album has Can someone explain how these vocals aren't grating to the ears??