What would be the economic and political effects of building a space elevator in America?

What would be the economic and political effects of building a space elevator in America?

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As if neckbeards on Sup Forums would know.

It would be fucking retarded.

This is Sup Forums, I expect some of you to have some insight

I remember reading some shit about how one point on the equator wouldn't work. It would have to span the entire circumference and swing around it. We might as well just start working on a dyson sphere.

No material strong enough to build it.
Also van hallen belts are a massive radiation hazard
We never went to space

>This is Sup Forums
>I expect some of you to have some insight

The earth is flat so it would work.

They would build the first space McDonald's

>tfw dominating the fast food exomarket

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

Nigger, how are you going to construct a Dyson Sphere when you can't efficiently move goods into space?

>Cable snaps
>Falls to the earth, destroying whatever is below it

Eh, no thanks.

Red pill me on space Sup Forums

We used to have beautiful space elevator threads before the massive influx of redditors and high schoolers about a few years ago

Space is an illusion, our entire universe actually exists on the very edge of the event horizon of a black hole.

A: Apollo went around the most intense portion of the belts via a highly inclined orbit
B: If you move through them quick enough exposure is minimal.

They do present a problem with space elevators though, as the elevator would have to be equatorial, and no doubt rather slow to ascend.

Also there's a problem of getting a massive enough object for a counterweight, and if the cable breaks RIP everyone living on the equator.

That's why the center of mass is above geostationary orbit. If the cable snaps (it won't) it will remain roughly where it is.

I think we're a long ways off from having the carbon nanotube manufacturing ability to make this a possibility. Though if anyone is going to build it it'll be the private sector or the US government after one of the asteroid mining firms start a new "gold rush"

You anchor it deep into Cayambe. If there is a cable failure, it falls on Ecuador so no one really cares.

>lel. What is crawling and what is Hussein Bolt

Enormous. We would have a very good shot at dominating space exploration and exploitation for a long time

All of them.

Space Elevator still does thread on 8ch*n last I checked.

poverty and ridicule, respectively

Did you not notice that the equator doesn't cross the United States? We'd need to grab new clay.

Teslaphoresis is looking like a promising way to self assemble carbon nanotubes, which would be strong enough.

>after 9 years of construction and several hundreds of billions of dollars finally done
>some muslims fly a plane into it couple months later

Carbon nanotubes aren't strong enough though.

And anything going there would get a fuckton of radiation and either die or be fried (for flesh and circuitry respectively)

Too bad the server over there sucks so much. Feels like I'm using a telegraph to post.

If the cable breaks it will wrap around the entire equator like a yo-yo string.

Don't you guys realize the earth is flat and a space elevator is pointless since space only extends 20 miles above the earth

Won't that slow down the rotation of the earth?

Perhaps if it was attached to the equator with it running to the moon to act as a counterweight.

The cable would have to be able to move freely, so constructing a rail system around the belt of the planet? with a similar system for the moon (It is locked facing us)

Of course barring next-gen materials you gon need Dora gun tier rails

The dream of an absolute madman...


The structure would have to be stiff and structurally unsound. Else it'd swing around like a yo yo

Actually I don't think all of it would fall down, it would move with earth's rotation, like a tail. It'd become a gigantic safety hazard for any future space operations though.

youtube.com/watch?v=qPQQwqGWktE

@04:40

its a jewish conspiracy to keep us on earth producing shekels instead of flying around and breathing space air which exists

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Shielding might help.

Carbon nanotubes aren't strong enough?

Explain.

That's a good thing, we will have more time to shitpost.

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That would only happen if it snaps perfectly. You have to account for the size this cable would have to be to support an elevator that is worth a shit.

The cable would have to be heavily partitioned with a very robust series of counter weights instead of one big one at the end. Even then there will still need to be supporting structures for the part of the cable closest to the Earth.

>won't snap
If you ignore all the social issues that are going to be surrounding it, sure. Something this massive would be prime for a terror attack. It would also require heavy legislation to keep it maintained.

Guess it depends on how long we are talking. I don't think it would just land on Ecuador. Also if it lands in the Ocean you can expect some gigantic waves.

This, the Earth is flat you dumb spherecucks

No one along that path we really care about anyway.

>what are physics

What about a space fountain instead?

Why not just build a curved-line elevator that matches the rotating forces of the earth?

What about the variation in the distance between the Earth and the Moon?

> Irish talking utter crap about space.

What a surprise.

Ask Halo
In 2 the space elivatirs collapsed and they touched on it a bit in the book as to what happened because of that

Rockets will be cheaper by the time it's even possible to build a space elevator

Even more meme-tier
>lel let's shoot a bunch of shit lke we were fucking tubgirl, it gets us to space promise ;^)

What if the world tips and falls over?

Van Allen belt you ignorant zuppa di semem nero.

You can't even name it properly your idiotic conspiracy theory crap is dismissed.

It would actually need to be significantly outside of the event horizon for the earth to exist.
Don't get me wrong, our entire universe could be circling the drain of some black hole so massive that we couldn't even begin to comprehend right now, but we'd need to be a bit further out than the event horizon to actually exist.

>retarded liberals were the ones pushing it because IT'S 2036 AND SCIENCE AND SHIT!
>they finally get pissed after they bet everything they had on it
>allow the rest of the world to go full DEUS VULT
If only

Yeah I saw this too when I google'd about it.

This is the scenario I've heard the most about, whereas the Kurzgesagt scenario was a first for me.

Satan trips checked.

muh Skylon

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You need to keep in mind that different parts of the cable will be experiencing different forces due to earth's gravity.

i.e: Cable parts closer to earth experience more "pull" than the cable farther from the earth. This will introduce all kinds of structural issues.

So the cable would likely break in multiple places once any part of it fails. Some goes flying away, some stays in orbit, and some falls back onto Earth.

Energy required to keep it up seems to be the big problem.

Everything is meme tier until we accomplish it.

Why do you hate space? Is it because you can't tell where mecca is?

AAE here. It would be disastrous, since it's impossible to do at this latitude.

It's also impossible to do with current materials, so...

Hmm maybe that is why I hate this idea. Read those books so long ago and it just stuck with me.

Why don't we just have a shit-ton of balloons lift crap into space. Save money and time

>anchored to one point while the planetary body stays in place

Horrible representation

>Something this massive would be prime for a terror attack.

True. That is why we can never progress as a species until Muslims are wiped out for good.

Purge Islam. Then build elevator.

Almost immeasurably. Also the earth's rotation is always slowing.

Anonymous from 2047 here
Al, this whitey mirrorweb sucks, I've been trying to send this back for the past halfhour.

India will build the first space elevator. Yes India. It's crazy how things have changed. This might not be true now that I've said this due to butterfly effect and shit.

Uh, something tells me it is just as meme of an idea.

Indeed.

This cross section here, red being the rail itself, blue the cable.

Having it extend below the surface to a reasonable depth, with the yellow star representing a mechanism that controls the slack in the cable.

Since it is a cable, and not a solid tower, it would theoretically be able to bend and so forth with wind and variations in distance.

When the gravitational forces are strong the gold star gives slack to the line and vise versa

Did they build it so they can poo from the top of it?

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>That's why the center of mass is above geostationary orbit. If the cable snaps (it won't) it will remain roughly where it is.

>roughly where it is
Everything below the breakage would crash into the earth. Everything above would also, eventually, crash into the earth, due to air resistance, unless the break was very high

I think iv heard that it would need to be built in the ocean but I can't remember why. If the US built it economically the benefit to the US would be that they would control and profit from all space activity. I'm sure plenty of nations would then either build their own or continue with rockets for sensitive missions. Regardless we don't have the technology.

Then you have leftists doing it because "muh space pollution" "muh megacorps in space"

And back to step one

Even if you purge the mudslimes, the nogs would also find a way to fuck it up.

Also got to think about who we put in charge of this shit. Government employees aren't known for their, uh, career expertise.

It just has to be really redundant. Retard proof. Human proof...

Let's make more energy then.

Nah, now that you've said that CERN will conquer the world with control over time travel you faggot.

I don't understand why that picture came up. I don't have it saved.

It's a shame

Everything looks shitty in ms paint.

I was merely proposing alternatives.

Hey guise, wouldn't a space elevator cable make a massive whooshing sound as it cuts through atmosphere?

What about a space escalator?

I'm sure the chinese could handle it.

It's geostationary you faggot.

Does anybody here actually even science?

We could also propose an uncontrolled 'bungee jump'

If you pressurize enough material, water air whatever and use it as a cannon to launch goods into low orbit where a space station capable of catching the goods with pure math calculations, magnetic fields, a net or whatever.

If it's not organic it won't get BTFO on the 1000m/s journey.

Not everything looks like a space dick either.

In all seriousness, though, it would require a lot of energy to work. I don't see that being too viable.


I imagine some type of giant railgun will end up being the next best thing to getting shit in space.

>lets go to space guys!
>everyone hop in the railcannon! Off we go!

Sounds fun.

Is this a joke from then?
I'd imagine they'd already have it done
Sorry, I'm probably coiting with the thread

Because we're almost out of helium

The cable would have to be built like a fiber, it would float to the ground, not wrap around the planet destroying everything.

As well, depending on where the break occurs, most of the cable could fly off into space with the counterweight.

Nope. The hard part of getting into orbit isn't altitude, but horizontal velocity. Plus the stuff would slow down far too much for it to get into orbit

>build space elevator
>one of the grandest achievements on mankind
>government flies a plane into it to justify war with some shithole nobody cares about
fund it

It's more likely to introduce a wobble into the earth's orbit

It'd probably take millions or billions of years to develop.

RAILGUN ON EVEREST BITCH


MAH BOOMSTICK

Communism.

Since we're already talking about science n sheit, what are your thoughts on this?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power

considering the average American weighs 400 pounds and it costs like $3,000 to send a pound into space and a space elevator would cut that down to like $300 dollars a pound that just makes sense from economic perspective

Great for first world corporations to sell electricity to 3rd world countries (africa) who can't build their own shit (africa) without any danger of the power plant being fucking wrecked by the natives (africa).

I just thought of this

Anyone read about Mark Z trying to give niggers wifi through weather balloons.


An elevator doesn't need to be a continuous system


Maybe getting packages say 10-20 kg in weight would be viable by a large space station that has a retractable hook of sorts. when it bypasses high altitude balloons it skyhooks a package and retracts it back into the station?

If SimCity taught me anything, that nearby city will get obliterated.

Nigger wut.

Nigger wut.

Grow 100km of carbon nano tubes.

Capture a NEO to serve as counterweight.

Build a climber with an on board nuclear reactor.

Drain Van Allen belts of their radiation, just like draining a swamp.

I wouldn't be surprised if I died before they built one, desu, but I believe one will be built one day.

Now a hyperloop, that I WISH they would build but I know they won't.

>Sitting in an elevator for 22,000 miles