STOP USING THE DEATH STAR AS THE MCGUFFIN IN STAR WARS MOVIES

STOP USING THE DEATH STAR AS THE MCGUFFIN IN STAR WARS MOVIES.

of the 7 movies that exist so far, only 2 do.

Starkiller Base is NOT a Death Star.

Shut the fuck up.

>Starkiller Base is NOT a Death Star.
>This is what JJ actually believes

it's literally the same thing with some minor differences in appearance

You can't - it practically stands in for the empire. You can't expect to show the ins and outs of a functioning galactic empire in two and a bit hours. The Death Star was a genius decision - it shows the feats the Empire is capable of, while wrapping up in its design all its power, hubris and one critical fault - which fills a certain thematic role against the Force as Religion idea. It's just that it's purpose has been largely forgotten. For all the attention but on the Death Star, it's really been used more as a set piece recently.

The 1st Death Star was certainly an impressive idea, but why the fuck would the Empire piss away resources and labor to build ANOTHER superweapon? Why not invest in training assassins, commando hit squads, a vast network of informants, surveillance tech that listens onto the rebels, or any other alternatives that are far more cost effective?

Wasn't the first death star a distraction for the second, much larger death star?

death star is an easy way to give a constant sense of danger

Reminder that the original Star Wars was great because it was an original fantasy story set in space with pretty much the best score you could hope for

Reminder that it has been done to death since then and there's nothing original about anything they do and the only reason people still like it is because of memberberries

In cartoons the villain always completely scraps his ideas when only a tiny thing went wrong. The only problem with the first Death Star was that it had an open exhaust port. The second Death Star would have remedied this problem with several tiny exhaust ports. The only thing that went wrong was that Sheev thought it was a good idea to have a battle while the thing is incomplete.

I think that was a retcon from the 2010s. There were already two prototypes before the first Death Star. But it would make more sense desu.

I just want to see people in plastic armor and skeleton-esque helmets shoot each other, I don't get what's so hard for Hollywood and the tv jews to just give me that.

No, four out of the seven movies prominently feature a death star. Sure, two of them might not be called "death stars", but they serve the same purpose: to be a big ship in the sky that people in starfighters have to explode at the climax. You have the ANH death star, the ROTJ death star, the donut ship from phantom menace, and then the super duper death star that blows up whole star systems from TFA.

That's not what a MacGuffin is

Yeah but most cartoon villains don't have to worry about maintaining an empire and balancing their revenue/expenditure. The Death Star must've costed at least the equivalent of a whole fleet of Star Destroyers and Tie-Fighters. Superweapons like the Death Star don't really benefit in the long-run when you consider maintenance and tech becoming obsolete.

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How can a giant fucking laser to kill everyone with become obsolete? Maintenance is a far too abstract topic to seriously discuss it in the Star Wars universe, I assume it is not in any way remarkable for the Death Star. It is equal the cost of many fleets of Star Destroyers and it is capable of taking on the job of Star Destroyer fleets.

But then the Sleevmaster sheeved it up by letting the space niggers get near it when it had spaceship-sized holes leading right to the main reactor. The only mistake was letting that senile bastard get near it.

> Shut the fuck up.
Take your own advice, you delusional cuck. It counts and you know it.

>MCGUFFIN

Don't use words if you don't know what they mean

Okay, but what about the 'totally not the Death Star" Death Star?

>This is what JJ actually believes
He obviously doesn't believe that. You'd have to be an idiot not to see that he intentionally created a hamfisted replica of the original Trilogy to lead nostalgiafags around by the nose.

>Let's just make it BIGGER and BIGGER :D

STAR WARS IS NOW A old dead whore. but rebel one gives people vader and os feel so it will be better than abrams copy fan fic film.

I'm of two minds about the Star Forge

On one hand "it sucks the energy out of a star to power a massive warship manufacturing facility" is pretty technically sound

On the other hand it's SO useful and practical that a civilization as old and advanced as the one in Star Wars should have one of those things orbiting every fucking star in the galaxy already

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It is, in every reasonable definition of that term.

There's the Death Star plans in AOTC and the Death Star under construction in ROTS, so only Empire has no Death Star/death star like scenes