Pol what is the real red pill on vaccines? We know big pharma isn't our friend as evidence by the crap they push at us (SSRIs, fluoride, never address diet) and the lack of cures for cash cow diseases, and banned beneficial substances.
But vaccines? Autism? Damaged gut flora resulting in eczema asthma etc? Is the new DTAP the true cause of the disease in Brazil. Bill gates evil?
I have a nearly 2 year old and have been considering a few vaccines like tetanus at least and idk...
I want the truth. Are the dangers real? Worth the risk?
Or just have faith in herd immunity?
Alexander Rogers
My belief is that the shots should be taken one at a time, weeks apart, instead of a few in one sitting.
When you pump your kid with 3 or 4 dormant viruses, it doesn't surprise me when they get all fucked up
Samuel Walker
that little faggot has aids
Lucas Parker
My understanding is that chickenpox is fine for children, but it's dangerous to get it as an adult.
Dylan Fisher
If you think "big pharma" is ripping you off with preventative medicine please forego any other medicine too. Morphine for your pain? Nah man big pharma. Aspirin and nitro for your heart attack? But big pharma! Epinephrine for your anaphylaxis? BIG PHARMA
Xavier Roberts
wait, theres a chicken pox vaccine?
James Rivera
They're all attenuated viruses. They're not "dormant". That means that they have a mutation in a crucial part of their genome that prevents them from replicating. Of course they can revert, but the size of the mutation combined with the chances of the mutation occuring at that location on the genome is on the order of 10e-9.
There is no problem with giving your kids multiple vaccines at once. Want a redpill? Don't be a dumbass. Vaccinate your fucking kids and don't ruin our herd immunity. Big pharma sucks ass but they don't have hands in the vaccine industry.
source: BS in Microbiology and Infectious Diseases
Jason Taylor
It probably looks very bad because it's a baby, but I got chicken pox as a kid and it wasn't even that bad, I didn't even knew there was a vaccine for it
Robert Walker
yes and my mom didnt get me it but gave it to my brother
fucking shit sucked
Justin Miller
This is what I was saying the other day, and like you, its how I think it should be done too, rather than all at once.
We had our vaccines for our child qand he spent the next two weeks "off" and being miserableas anything, not his usual self.
I think having them all mixed together is a bad idea, but having a very young child, fight off multiple illness's all at the same time too is a nightmare for the child and the parents.
Is there really any reason its all done as one jab ?
Daniel Ross
>We know fluoride is bad for you I hope you get rubella and die.
Logan Gutierrez
> Worst case of chicken pox > Obviously due to no vaccines
Fucking people these days. Use a one-off case as the talking point for their entire platform.
Look here, shitheads. I was vaccinated to the fullest when I was a kid (so much so that, when moving to the US from Canada, I had to get more shots because Canada requires less). When I was 3 years old, I developed a severe case of chicken pox when I was in Disney land of all things. To the point that my raised skin was bleeding. People on the flight home were concerned that they were going to develop the black plague. My parents almost weren't allowed on the plane because I looked like death.
Shit happens.
Dylan Murphy
Ever heard of a varicella vaccine? Same thing.
Juan Sullivan
Vaccines DO cause autism. Anything or anyone saying otherwise is just jew propaganda. I'll be having a kid next month and there's no way in hell I'm going to make my baby retarded by purposely injecting him with poison.
Jacob Russell
In the long run, vaccines make populations stronger by eliminating contagions.
On an actual human scale, you're playing with dice. You could be allergic to the vaccine, it can have a different effect on you then the majority. You are also injecting mercury into the human body, which can be dangerous because even if it is a small amount. They cant test you for how much innate mercury you have picked up from the environment. You're also screwed if the vaccine has been improperly mixed and ends up with excess mercury.
Kevin Sullivan
Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't later fall ill to trivially preventable sicknesses. Many such cases!
Ayden Scott
getting it as a kid damages DNA, leading to diseases later in life. Shingles i think (for example)
Gabriel Cook
>BS in Microbiology and Infectious Diseases
Muh nigga
I'm taking that same course man, how's the job market working out for you so far?
Vaccinate your children dumbass, why is this even a question.
Lucas Fisher
Yea that's why literally every study that takes samples of children with and without vaccinations has the same percentage and likelihood of autism in both groups.
Fucking liberals man
Chase Phillips
This is the fucking truth, Immunology major here
The fact is, people don't have a fucking clue how vaccines or the immune system works, even in the most basic terms
Matthew Richardson
>Is there really any reason its all done as one jab ? Yeah it's called being cheaper, easier and more time efficient. Your kid could've been "off" for literally any reason but confirmation bias made you blame life saving vaccines.
Jordan King
>Vaccines you should use >vaccines that have been around forever for dangerous diseases like chicken pox, tetanus etc >Vaccines you should avoid >For seasonal flus (swine flu, bird flu etc ) since they're usually dodgy as fuck
Nolan Garcia
Please keep your retarded offspring away from any public place or school
Chase Robinson
fpbp
Hudson Martin
>Everything is much simpler when you turn it into a black and white issue! kys
Kevin Cox
Well I got vaccinated and I don't have autism.
Jack Roberts
make another child and vaccinate it see difference report back to Sup Forums in a couple years
Cooper Garcia
If you've seriously done your research and still have to question whether vaccines are worth doing, then I have to question your ability to be a parent. Or to even breath independently. Perhaps there is some merit to spacing them out, I don't know, but not vaccinating without a legitimate medical reason is one of the absolute worst things you could do to your child. The dangers of vaccines are statistically nonexistent, the dangers of the diseases prevented via vaccination are still very real and very deadly. And the autism garbage is complete BS coming from a single paper that was proven to be completely fraudulent decades ago.
I firmly believe that if a parent refuses to vaccinate their child without a legit medical reason, and someone else dies because they got the disease from that child, the parents should be held criminally liable for manslaughter.
Leo Wood
Yeah, because doctors appointments are $300 a pop.
Ryan Garcia
What's the tube thing in its mouth? Is that like a breathing mask or is it for feeding?
Joseph Edwards
>sample size: 2 sounds like a great plan
Adrian Allen
Wait since when have people started vaccinating for chicken pox? I thought it was one of those things you're expected to get at some point in your childhood and then you're immune? What's the point in vaccinating for it if we create an immunity naturally?
Nathaniel Young
Shingles is adult chicken pox and usually appears on the back.
John Lopez
Pretty much what this guy says.
Big Pharma DOES NOT make a whole lot of money from vaccines. They're distributed to be as cheap as possible to get the most amount of people vaccinated. If anything, Big Pharma would work against vaccines because healthy people make them less money.
BS in BioChemistry
Matthew Carter
> fluoride meme
Fluoride is fine unless you're literally drinking 8 gallons a day; In which case, you've got more problems to worry about.
Do you people even bother to read your water quality reports?
Dominic Nguyen
Fucking this. This is the stupidest shit people rage over.
I'd expect redpilled people to realize that vaccines are the reason half the world doesn't get wiped out by diseases.
Camden Lewis
You actually get shingles if you didn't catch chicken pox as a kid.
Ayden Myers
Just took the MCAT and got top 12% so I'm headed off to med school senpai. The major was interesting as shit tho. Definitely plan on doing internal medicine and working with HIV or Hepatitis.
I imagine the system is a little different as a brit bro.
David Murphy
Everyone knows they only give the dirty vaccines to ethnic minorities. Just remember, if you're white, you're all right.
Daniel Reed
The asshole who started the whole "vaccines give children autism" scare was fired from his job and also had his medical license revoked. It was an admitted error corrected by older, wiser doctors who know better.
Eli Harris
because some people get it as adults instead and it sucks
Michael Morales
This guy gets it Not all vaccines are "live" and not all vaccines are virus or parts of. This is the hardest thing for people to understand when I see them in the ER, don't blame them though, a lot of disinformation about there. Micro was never my strong suit so keep it up my friend, so I don't have to
Matthew Lewis
Is this bait?
Jordan Phillips
1/3 Everyone knows that vaccines cause autism. Synergy can solve this. The massive amount of evidence is undeniable, but big pharma pays big government with little synergy to stop the research on vaccine autism and prevent synergy. They then use their little research to show that vaccines don't cause autism when they do, preventing synergy. Everyone knows that vaccines don't prevent disease they cause them, they prevent synergy. We must stop this massive anti-child movement by using synergy. It is caused by big government wanting everyone to be autistic and stopping synergy. If we could unite and form some great synergy we could fix this. They use the autistic people without synergy as mind control so the democrats can seize control using synergy of the government and exterminate the Republicans and prevent synergy. This is why synergy is key. This is why the entire government is controlled by the Democrats that have no synergy. This is why I voted for Mr. Synergy Donald Trump in the election, he has so much synergy that he will unite the United States with great synergy with synergy. He is anti-vaccine and so should you. He knows that vaccines cause autism and so does Obama. The filthy nigger just doesn't want to attempt that he is wrong so he keeps on pumping children full of autism and no synergy.
Jaxson Gomez
>$0.05 has been deposited into your account.
Gavin Powell
This but they aren't dormant
Grayson Nguyen
2/3
The amount of evidence that vaccines no synergy cause autism is going to be undeniable meaning big government with lots of synergy is going to fall. Then people will see that vaccines cause autism. I love synergy. I encourage you to look at the evidence, you will see that one vaccine can cause a child to become autistic and prevents synergy. Everyone knows that one vaccine is all it takes and that is why Obama is autistic. No Synergy Hillary Clinton loves vaccines, what does that mean? Synergy is required to prevent this crisis without synergy. It means that big government with synergy is actually controlled by big pharma that uses synergy to control big government that wants to mind control with synergy. How do you mind control? You use vaccines and synergy. That is right people, you heard it here, the massive amount of evidence is undeniable along with the synergy created. There has been so much research using synergy on autism and it is proven that vaccines cause autism along with preventing synergy. This is why synergy is required to meet demands.
Aiden Taylor
[Citation Fucking Needed]
Leo Hughes
why the fuck is there mercury in something that is supposed to help ypu
Ian Thompson
People not wanting to vaccinate are functional retards.
Robert Powell
To protect people in close contact with chickenpox carriers, e.g. immunosuppressed people or non-immune people
It isn't routine but ti's available
Gavin Long
Yeah, why does he wear the mask?
Andrew Miller
3/3 If you say other wise without synergy then you are not doing best for your child. We need to form some great synergy. Vaccines should be banned and the people that produce them should be executed with great amounts of synergy for making children autistic and disease ridden and no synergy.
Dylan Howard
Congrats.
Please come up with a fix for HIV and Hep C so I don't have to live in fear of it everyday.
t. an inner city paramedic
Zachary Wright
>injecting mercury into the human body The mercury angle should just die. Most vaccines for children don't have that type of mercury because too many people bitched about it.
For the record, there is more mercury in a tuna fish sandwich than in a vaccine. Injecting vs eating heavy metals has little difference.
Wyatt Kelly
If only I could make money that easily, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Sure beats anything else I've got lined up.
Gabriel Foster
Just standard autism.
Isaiah Price
>The dangers of vaccines are statistically nonexistent That doesn't mean what you're trying to imply. Sure, only
David Gomez
Shut the fuck up.
Nathaniel Hill
IF YOU DON'T AT LEAST GET VACCINATIONS FOR COMMON SERIOUS DISEASES YOU ARE RETARDED
Julian Thomas
Drink some pure fluoride right now and then tell me how you feel.
Austin Russell
even if they caused autism in 1/10 kids, the risk is still lesser than the risk of rampant disease
Christian Morris
I HATE SCIENCE: The thread
I bet you tards think cocaine is dangerous too.
Landon Morales
Red pillers are fuckin morons who think they know better than specialists (in any field) just because they read a few conspiracy theories. See also; red pill views on global warming.
Jose Hill
Thiomerosal isn't even used in kid's vaccinations anymore, it's just another meme the anti-vaxxers love
Adrian Davis
Yes. It's not as effective as some other vaccines, but one does exist.
Jonathan Hernandez
4/3 Overall with out synergy we will never overcome this massive problem of a lack of synergy relating to vaccinates. If we unite under synergy then we can form some great synergy. With this excess synergy we can then attack big pharma that uses vainccens to prevent synergy by causing autism that is very anti-synergy. So by preventing synergy big government takes over, AKA Anti-Synergy Clinton. We can prevent autism and create great synergy by Electing High Energy, High Synergy Donald Trump. Synergy is required to stop vaccinates.
Christian Russell
I'm planning on doing an extremely similar thing, the only real difference between the two paths is that the MCAT equivalent is known as the UKCAT. HIV is interesting as fuck, but I love the sound mycology and it's a field that is rarely filled.
Good luck senpai.
Nathan Torres
If you think you have been exposed to it, doctors just put you on anti retro virals for a month
Christian Torres
>Drink some pure fluoride Pure hydrogen fluoride is a gas, not a liquid. Pure sodium fluoride is a solid salt, not a liquid.
STFU about a topic you clearly know nothing about.
Blake Green
You don't understand the fact that vacinees cause autism which prevents synergy. Synergy is key for the massive amount of synergy in today's synergy related economy. By causing autism with vacinees it prevents synergy.
Dylan Green
Could an infant die due to chicken pox?
Brody Sullivan
>Thiomerosal For almost 15 years and they are still bitching
Levi Price
Have fun dieing of the flu
Christopher Gonzalez
You're more likely to get shingles if you had chicken pox as a kid. Why? The virus is dormant in your nervous system once you get it.
You're not immune to having shingles once you've had chicken pox. It's just less likely to be severe. If you have NOT had chicken pox as a kid, and you catch the VZ virus, your version of shingles will be MUCH worse.
Luke Thomas
I'd disagree, do you have actual numbers somewhere? I don't, but I'm under the impression the risk of such negative reactions is far smaller, more like < 0.001% or so. What matters is that the risk presented by the diseases prevented is much, much greater than the risk posed by the vaccine.
Lucas Thompson
>What is variola
Seriously people's memory is so damn short.
Henry Robinson
Yes, but it is better to be dead than retarded.
Henry Sanders
Yes, specially neonates and I've seen a couple of cases of varicella pneumonia that are awful on the kids
Thomas Gonzalez
Vaccines have been hijacked to modify the population
Christian Martinez
You know what I meant, autist. Most people with autism don't understand hyperbole. Seems you've been drinking too much yourself.
Justin Scott
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Blake Sullivan
If I took that off, would he cry?
David Baker
1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms!
Jeremiah Hughes
>mercury that has to go through your digestive system is the same as mercury thats directly injected into the bloodstream which travels directly through your brain lawl
Also, you're proving the point that mercury is already occurring in our environment, its stupid to add MORE in.
Hudson Fisher
Idiocy: The thread.
Noah Ortiz
Doesn't always work. PEP reduces the risk but doesn't eliminate it.
I had a near miss exposure and I couldn't sleep for two months after it happened. Tested negative for it after 3 months. Still need to get back and get retested in 6 months and then in a year.
One of my good friends got AIDS/Hep C blood splashed into his face, eyes and mouth. He got the PEP and had to get tested as well. Nearly broke up his marriage and he had major anxiety issues for months after.
Shit is no joke. And Hep C has like a 30% seroconversion rate, it's really easy to contract.
Easton Clark
They're still bitching about a chemical that was removed 15 years ago and the only one I can think of that still has it is the flu vaccine
Leo Turner
>kid is never off, been happy and full of energy since day 1. >kid has his mass vaccines. >kid spends the next two weeks off and completely not himself.
Not even biased, never was one of these "oh no muh vaccines" types, just pointing out my experience, and my initial thought that doing it all at once is not a good idea.
Nathaniel Watson
Ok chicken pox vaccine has not been around forever unless you are 21.
Blake Jenkins
You're fucking stupid, its not mercury, its a compound with a mercury atom in it called thimerosal
ever wonder why water isn't flammable? the chemical properties change when atoms and other molecules bond together
Jacob Wilson
The best vaccine is closing the border to countries where they still have these diseases.
If you can't do that, then you're stuck with vaccines. It sucks, but it's better than getting polio.
Asher Gomez
What the hell is synergy
Christian Martinez
No it doesnt, everyone use to have it as a kid.
Andrew Davis
If you are not studying something like chemistry/biology/medicine or related stuff you have no opinion.
Gabriel Sullivan
Jesus Christ, America get your shit together and outlaw anti-vacs as has already been done in all civilized nations.
Nathaniel Miller
>le fluoride is bad maymay
I am not memorising a 6 page essay to write in 45 minutes for my masters exam to listen to you chucklefucks harp on about things you don't understand.