>On April 5, Danny DelBianco dropped out of the program that he had dedicated much of his life to joining. Hours later, the 23-year-old stepped off the 22nd floor of the Mariott Hotel in San Diego. >About 80 percent of the men who attempt what the Navy calls Basic Underwater Demolition/SEALs training, or BUD/S, don't pass. The washouts remain in the Navy, but some of them are never the same after enduring a brutal training regimen that can induce symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, former SEALs and trainees say. The training has gotten significantly tougher since the 9/11 attacks, according to former SEALs and Navy statistics. >The answer, Navy special operations officials now agree, was that he shouldn't have been. In response to DelBianco's death, the Navy has implemented a new policy of supervising drop-outs for 24 hours, a Naval Special Warfare spokesman told NBC News and The Virginian-Pilot in a statement. nbcnews.com/news/us-news/heartbroken-dad-demands-change-navy-seal-training-after-son-s-n589101
How long until they start lowering the standards and bringing in women?
Joseph Rivera
>how long until they start lowering the standards and bringing in women?
That depends on what happens come November
Ryder Johnson
who gives a shit
John Hall
>His son committed suicide
Everyone in the military has seen Full Metal Jacket. They know that they can push people hard enough to snap. So they make sure you want to be there, every fucking day.
Oliver Gomez
>First suicide of a SEAL trainee in the program's history.
Sounds like the problem is with this generation of men.
Owen Morales
proves that muscular physique isnt everything, ive seen less fit guys who are seals
Connor Howard
Navy did nothing wrong. Weak people are weak people, suicide is a voluntary act.
Ryan Peterson
I'll never understand why Americans seem to think the way to train soldiers is to abuse them, give them mental disorders and make them retarded. Wouldn't it make more sense to just, I don't know, give them combat skills instead?
Jaxson Smith
The kind of men that join the Navy, let alone the SEAL program can't be compared to the rest of the nation. You and I probably cannot endure the amount of physical stress that wears away at you and becomes psychological and emotional stress as the days pass. Like Ranger training and most SpecOps, only the cream of the crop are accepted and even then only the very best and toughest of those make it through.
Jose Bell
Well, imagine if he was on a mission as SEAL and snap there. That guy would've compromised everyone else by being selfish and shooting himself.
Julian Ramirez
He trained for aesthetics, not for strength
Ryan Barnes
You can't instill discipline without showing of might is the military's logic. You need discipline to make sure someone is not a liability and can make sound judgement in the blink of an eye if shit goes down. People are a resource you you bet the military tries to make sure they keep that resource alive because it costs way too much time and money to replace someone's dead ass. So you instill fear, loyalty, and paranoia so that your soldier can be ready for anything.
Josiah Morales
Apparently the ideal SEAL candidate is a manlet with a swimmer's body.
Ryder Hughes
>How long until they start lowering the standards and bringing in women? When they change their mascot to something with a blowhole
Oliver Evans
Keeping them under supervision temporarily is a good idea.
Joseph Reed
This is actually true. They want small guys who can endure. Actually swimmers body isn't totally true. You need fat on your body to make it through some of that ahit
Thomas Brooks
Nah mate, I know why they think they're doing it, but their entire mindset is fuckawful retarded and all they do is make lunatics. My guess is that the real reason has something to do with the fact that if they let recruits remain sane, they'll eventually realize the MIC is corrupt as fuck and they should be turning those weapons on their COs.
Hudson Flores
This would never happen in Russia.
I mean they'd never lower standards for Spetznaz
Ayden Morgan
If this guy couldn't handle the mental strain of trying out, and failing, do you really think he could handle the mental strain what SEALs have to do? Not everyone has the mental/emotional strength to do what the SEALs do regardless of physical prowess. There has to be some way weed these people out.
Nathaniel Myers
the russian special operations are a joke they were good when it was still the USSR but now russia is just terrible. hazing your troops and making sure they are unbreakable assholes doesn't make them good fighters
Michael Gutierrez
>The kind of men that join the Navy, let alone the SEAL program can't be compared to the rest of the nation. The Navy is mostly pretty normal people man.
Daniel Myers
The standards for Navy Seals have not been lowered...
Landon Collins
>gay
Elijah Miller
Literally retarded. Americans are a bunch of dumbasses who don't understand psychology at all. I still think I'm right about the unspoken reason for all this breaking. Sane troops would question why the American military is literally the devil.
Adam Green
I don't know user. The amount of sleep deprivation the dude was subject to could have easily make anyone temporarily insane
Brayden Hall
he dropped out of the program then dropped out of the building
rough
Julian Butler
I read something the same. Average SEAL height is king manlet at 5'10" because bigger bodies tire out quicker in the stamina exercises they do.
Noah Ward
Nigger this shit isn't new You know what they used to do to roman soldiers?
Wyatt Jones
This. The heaviest thing you have to carry is a 60lb pack and a rifle, so you don't need to be a giant, you just need to be able to carry that weight for miles and miles without stopping.
Caleb Perry
>I couldn't get through MEPS. It's alright. Not everyone is cut out for it.
Evan Flores
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm talking about. I think there's also a power fetish component that serves no practical purpose except to get off whoever's barking orders.
>Joining the MIC You are out of your fucking mind. Don't give me that welfare merc bootlicking bullshit.
Xavier Mitchell
Small body small target.
Chase Hughes
>>The answer, Navy special operations officials now agree, was that he shouldn't have been.
What the fuck is this fucking dumbass even trying to convey with this fucking half sentence
Jesus fucking chriost
Caleb Wilson
This is the new trend in our military. One faggot fucks it up for everyone, some feelings are hurt, and everyone else has to pay
It just happened in Japan where some dumbass beaner broad caused a drunken car wreck with a Japanese mother and her kids, and as a result, the 16,000 Americans stationed in Japan are no longer allowed to consume alcohol. The commanders have ordered the bases there "dry"
This is what beaners do - drink and drive. I thought the risks and accidents were just kind of absorbed if you choose to hire/be around them. Gues not in le current year
Robert Jones
Delta is more refined and mature anyhow
Fuck the SEALs and gayvy
Jose James
1% of our population will follow through and join the armed services. Thats something to think about friend. Everyone is a "normal person" in the armed forces, they're scraping out a living in a job that just happens to do work to protect the nation.
Carter Evans
I take it you're a military spc ops elite vet who knows what it takes and how to make men to handle it?
Oh wait, you're some fucking chick readin a psuedo "science" in college posting on a chinese porn site. Fuck off. Cunt.
Dominic Sanders
>MIC >Muh Iron Triangle Take a break, Moonbeam.
Lucas Powell
The military was consistently the most redpilled part of the military. Now it will be a welfare program for retards and women, and everyone will get a trophy.
Mason Brooks
What a fucking baby
Jackson Bennett
He literally just proved that rejecting him was a good decision.
If he can't handle rejection he probably couldn't handle being a SEAL
Luke Williams
It's about teaching them how hard they can push their bodies. Nothing they ever do in the field will be as bad.
Jack Mitchell
Psychology is just jewish pseudo-science, user
Gavin Green
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Jonathan White
What are you talking about? Modern soldiers get off easy Decimation used to be a punishment for a legion (actual decimation meaning every 1 in 10 soldiers were killed)
Jaxon Torres
>It's not important, it's just dictating global politics and we killed a president who spoke out about it
Grayson Martinez
I RAISED MY SON A MENTALLY WEAK PUSSY, SO ALL OF YOU SHOULD LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE FUTURE IMMEDIATELY OR YOURE ALL MEAN PEOPLE
Thomas Green
This. About a month after I finished basic, some dickhead put his barrel in his mouth down at the range.
Dominic Morgan
>Muh grassy knoll
Asher Hernandez
Marines are really the only boot camp where drill instructors still yell at their recruits
It's sad but with women and SJWs lowering the bar we are going to see lower quality of training
Joshua Evans
Being able to march dozens of kilometres and fight for hours in heavy equipment requires endurance more than muscles.
Thomas Gomez
>Faggots in this thread even implying they have the willpower to survive BUD/S
Chase Young
>rainbow dash gets kicked out of the wonderbolts.jpg
Nicholas Scott
Just physical exercise won't cause madness. Regardless of how rigorous. It's the constant shit-talking, disrespect and blatant and casual abuse that makes recruits insane. Not to mention loading them up with pure evil doctrine while you're doing it. It's like installing a graphics card with bolt cutters and a welding torch. Of course it ends up all fucked up.
Yes, pffft. Why should anyone study the human mind or behavioral patterns?
Evan Rivera
That's why I won't ever go military, I know I'm a mentally weak faggot who can't handle it.
Ian Collins
>he thinks the heaviest is only 60 pounds
Try 100 and up, faggot.
Benjamin Russell
Some faggot I served with drank too much, had a fight with his girlfriend, and put a 9mm in his mouth and pulled the trigger during a party at his house
The bullet somehow missed everything important and came out below his ear. He recovered quickly and they actually let this piece of shit come back. They didn't kick him out, they just pulled his weapons and ordnance handling qualifications.
The US military is on a steep decline
Evan Butler
>Thats something to think about friend. I guess?
Josiah Davis
its invite only, they pull from rangers and sf. the navy has DEVGRU which is pretty much the same thing but it pulls from seals.
Sebastian Parker
you can fit more midgets on their midget subs or seal boat. Remember the bigger you are the more water you're fucking displacing, bigger gear, needs more room.
Nicholas Hill
underrated
Ayden Hall
>the Navy has implemented a new policy of supervising drop-outs for 24 hours That makes perfect sense if the training can cause PTSD
Adrian Wright
Standards haven't been lowered, in fact they have been raised. The only change here is that the Navy will supervise every recruit who drops out over a period of 24 hours before releasing them.
Zachary Robinson
Stepping off the 22nd floor doesn't sound very weak to me
Dominic Rivera
What's the problem with the US military? They kill foreigners to advance our national interests. That is the job of the military. The only problem is the nigger currently dictating what he thinks those interests are.
Xavier Price
>>But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, foolish guac bowl merchant
Fixed it for you
William Hall
Can confirm. Have lots of vet friends that all told me not to go in. They pretty much all agree military is turning into a libtard degenerate shitshow. Was going to go Air Force TACP but after Obamas bunch started ruining careers of good officers, opted out. ASVAB score 52.
Blake Cruz
50 hours without sleep? I'd ring that fucking bell sooner lol.
All "Fuck this shit. You guys are fags. I'm gonna go take a nice 12 hour nap now. See ya."
Kayden Hill
Casually stepping off the 22nd storey is pretty hardcore stuff
Lucas Robinson
i've done 50 hours with no sleep, it's not that hard
i didn't know seal training included anime marathons
James Cook
Read this book
Jordan Morgan
Dropout decided to take a permanent nap to make up for Hell week
Samuel Sanchez
No, its the sleep deprivation
Dominic Walker
>20% of all recruits make it through BUD/S Anybody else think this number is too high? It should be closer to 5% to be truly elite.
Luis White
>jumping off a building
What an ass. Hang yourself in private instead of making a mess in public. He traumatized random folk and somebody had to scrape off his bits
Charles Adams
>ASVAB score of 52 Either they changed the ASVAB or you're a total fucking retard.
Elijah Gonzalez
Those are combat skills you moron.
A soldier who can stay up 48 hours has a better chance of surviving than the faggot who can only stay up 24.
Noah Collins
>I'll never understand That's because you're a retard. Go back to playing COD
Jace Torres
I can do about 36 easy, college life bro
Juan Stewart
>failing SEALs is weak Nigger the shit they do would kill your slobbish, basement dwelling ass in an hour. He survived long enough to fail and then walked off a 22 story building. That cunt was more hardcore during his suicide than any of us will be in our lives.
Nicholas Flores
so is staying awake include lucidity? because after about 24 hours I feel like i'm on drugs
Jaxon Parker
The very fact he killed himself means he wasn't fit to be in. The fact this happened means the system worked.
You can't have some guy joining who can't cut the cheese. These guys need to take a beating. Anything less is letting in the weakest of those who shouldn't be there.
Jace Ross
>Tell meat heads they are the best of best of best of the best of best etc >They find out they are not
A certain portion of humans cant deal with finding out they are average. Especially when the driving force of their life was believing they were special.
Juan Scott
Me too m8, I start hallucinating a bit and my speech becomes slurred.
Austin Hill
War is not easy, its not like you get a gun and start shooting people like in COD. You don't get to sleep in battlefield and you have to stay hungry and be able to fight as ammo is more preferred to carry then food. You don't get medical attention, you have to keep fighting on even getting shot. You can't hesitate to kill, its either kill or get killed. You have to be able to fight with your bare hands if you run our of ammo and more importantly there is a good chance that you are going to see your co-workers/work friends die. You have to be trained for those things.
Carter White
Yes. The point is that they need to be ready to perform under those conditions.
Zachary Bennett
so if someone fails entrance exams for college and kills himself, they should make it easier?
Carson Murphy
If you sign up for SEALS and wash out of BUD/S you have spend the rest of your Navy on a ship as a cook
Lincoln Myers
I wonder if SEALS have stimulants like the ephedra in Generation kill
Joseph Gutierrez
The rangers aren't even impressive. They literally receive the same training Marines graduating SOI get, which is basic as fuck. I'll take a marine infantryman over a ranger any day
Jason Wright
this,
the faggot Chad didn't have any other avenues in life other than working as a fry cook at Wendy's and earning only 65k a year while fucking multiple Stacys daily.
He made the right choice
Brandon Ross
Its not even that. This guy was clearly above average, but not above average enough to make it in the SEALS. That difference between being the 99th and 99.9th percentile must suck. Even though most people have no sympathy for you because you're obviously talented, you are still a failure.
It's a bit like being just talented enough to play minor league baseball, but not in the majors.
Brandon Fisher
With all the super hard training, they're still just normal men that can get their asses handed to them by goat herders.
Jonathan Cook
Yes.
Ethan Rivera
he didn't believe, thats why he failed. But I doubt it was depression that got him...
Dylan Sanchez
I'm shitposting from my home eating some steak after going to the gym for free and shitposting while I was on the train. Cream of the crop, baby!
Josiah Brooks
yes. they need to have safe spaces everywhere so that anyone who feels triggered can immediately return to the womb and suck on mami's warm teat.
Christopher Martinez
Good to see you passed your shitposting course
Noah Bennett
It was easy. I guess I'm just talented.
Operation Red Wings, where 4 Seals got wasted with zero kills of their own, against no more than a dozen mountain men.
Then they have the gall to make a propaganda piece about it where they're killing Taliban left and right.
Joseph Watson
Don't they get their recruits from orphanages and juvenile prisons?