What do you guys think Stefen Molyneux thinks of based Bill Whittle? red pilled?
Caleb Sanchez
>not listening to extremely comfy david duke daily
Dominic Thompson
Please leave this thread.
This thread is reserved for Stefan Molyneux.
Justin Evans
>Hey guys I want to have this channel be all about philosophy. Let's start with a basic problem: What is real? >[some years later] >Hey guys. I am no longer a racial egalitarian. The white race must survive.
Tyler Rivera
Why is he so against low ages of consent? Low age of consent is a remedy against low birth rates, and 13 year olds are perfectly capable of sex and giving birth.
Christian Bell
Achmed?
In the western civilisation we do not have low age of consent because while they may be biologically appropriate for sex, they are not mentally
Jacob Lewis
Only because we coddle them and don't give them independence. It was a viable system in the past. High AoC is a very recent phenomenon.
Jaxon Turner
>It was a viable system in the past
Precisely, in the past. We have evolved since through experimentation and science. We do not need pedophilia any longer to survive and evolve.
Charles Young
>We do not need pedophilia any longer to survive and evolve. You have seen birth rates lately right? Especially white birth rates?
Asher Anderson
That's because of overpopulation and immigration. Has nothing to do with the fact that we can't impregnate underaged kids.
Ryan Brown
this general is not an argument
Robert Smith
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Blake Nguyen
Neither of those are true. White birth rates are below replacement levels. Overpopulation is a myth. The planet can sustain 50 billion people easily.
James Wilson
>Neither of those are true >Proceeds to not explain why the first one is wrong >Then comes up with a number out of his ass to prove his bullshit point
Leaf with proxy?
Charles Gutierrez
All (not an) arguments for banging kids aside, Molymeme has a bias towards overprotective parenting. He's staunchly anti-spanking, and he believes that the more sexual partners a woman has, the worse off she is in just about every aspect of her life (there was no data on males). High age of consent seems to fit right in with these beliefs.
That's why HE (no aggression be upon him) would be for high AoC. I'm sure you could argue that he's wrong, but that's where the Molyneux stands.
The problem is the r selected breeding patterns of low IQ third-world immigrants. High IQ whites are typically K selected. There is a demographic problem, but the solution isn't to throw caution to the wind and pump out millions of babies by fucking young teens. We simply do not have the financial resources available. We have to prevent immigration to the white nations to keep them white. Trying to outbreed the muzzies would be total fucking madness.
Jose Lewis
I like where this is going... Low birth rates are caused by the totally unfuckable white women when they cross the age of consent? Breed em early and often, right?
Ian Turner
Oh, and I'm really happy there's a Molyneux general, I hope it continues to exist.
Lincoln Sullivan
Welcome.
Jaxon Rivera
>Makes a point >Prove me wrong! That's not how debating works. Spaghetti monster exists - prove me wrong.
>That's why HE (no aggression be upon him) would be for high AoC. I'm sure you could argue that he's wrong, but that's where the Molyneux stands. I agree with him 100% on spanking. Sexual partners he's somewhat right.
>We have to prevent immigration to the white nations to keep them white. Stopping immigration doesn't prevent population decline due to low birthrates though. White birthrates are below replacement levels.
High age of consent was literally introduced by feminists who wanted to increase their sexual market value by artificially limiting the market. A free market in sexuality would lower the value of washed up disgusting middle-aged feminist women, because younger women who haven't had many/any partners are more desirable, and clearly more attractive. Look how popular the search term 'teen' is on any porn site.
Eli Roberts
They're below replacement levels, sure, but the answer isn't lowering age of consent laws. Young women are fucking retarded, I wouldn't want them raising kids. The answer is to offer tax breaks or bonuses for having children, and maybe lower taxes for parents.
I don't know how you would do this in Molyneux's free society, but that's how you could do it under the current system.
Jose Young
>Young women are fucking retarded, I wouldn't want them raising kids. Ideally they'd have a stable husband to help.
>The answer is to offer tax breaks or bonuses for having children, and maybe lower taxes for parents. That's already implemented in practically every Western country, to no results. Do you want to pour good money after bad?
Anthony Ward
Well you are highlighting the problem and I'm telling you the cause of it. You are looking at this from a very narrow perspective.
Yes, lowering age of consent would lead to more white babies, but it would present a whole set of new problems for society
1. While we would have more babies, we would also get more immigrant shitskin babies, this is just a fact. They are way more accepting of early marriage and having kids early. It literally says in the Quran to produce a shit ton of babies just to have the biggest population
2. The white babies that do come out would be from white uneducated kids who aren't financially responsible or independent yet. How would that look? How would the kids future be?
3. Society would be utterly fucked, parents would have to finance their grandsonds and granddaughters because their own kids cant take care of themselves let alone a kid or two.
Stop looking at solutions only and start looking at causes, we simply are in no position to breed more kids
Henry Young
NOT AN ARGUMENT
Noah Green
He's turned into a neo-con.
Jonathan Ross
But where are the arguments?
Carson Clark
That's not what noe-conservatism is.
Clinton is the closest to neocon you'll get for awhile.
Camden Baker
>While we would have more babies, we would also get more immigrant shitskin babies, this is just a fact. So close the borders, or eliminate welfare for parents.
>The white babies that do come out would be from white uneducated kids who aren't financially responsible or independent yet. Any progress is better than regression.
>Society would be utterly fucked, parents would have to finance their grandsonds and granddaughters because their own kids cant take care of themselves let alone a kid or two. Abolishment of anti-business laws would ensure near-100% employment.
Mason Scott
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Asher Ward
Do you call this a fucking argument?
Xavier Cook
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Kevin Cruz
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Justin Gomez
Thank you, now you are presenting real solutions. Lowering age of consent would only lead to regression.
I'm happy you managed to come to your own conclusion though. Real proud of you, champ
Carter Morgan
>Ideally they'd have a stable husband to help
I mean, it's a nice idea, but I just don't think in practice that it would actually result in a bunch more stable white families. I just think we're going to see a lot more single mothers, just younger ones.
Also, how low of an AoC are we talking here? 16? 14? Lower?
Easton King
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Oliver Rivera
He looks really unhealthy
Colton Bailey
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Adam Thompson
He had cancer
Adam Johnson
Yes. It is an argument. Not a complex one, but an argument.
It's like someone saying an apple is an orange and someone else saying it's an apple--no further need to explain.Things are what they are.
Sebastian Carter
He was in the middle of chemotherapy in that picture.
Nolan Cooper
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Juan Thomas
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Aiden Williams
That's not an argument. Just because the conclusion of the argument is obvious, doesn't mean the conclusion itself is an argument.
Carson Lewis
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Michael Johnson
Is there any evidence beside subjective opinion that 13 year olds aren't ready for sex mentally?
>I just think we're going to see a lot more single mothers, just younger ones. That issue is because of so much female-biased legislation, such as the family court system being heavily tilted towards women, and the safety net so they can hook up with terrible guys and just live on welfare when they leave.
>Also, how low of an AoC are we talking here? 16? 14? Lower? There shouldn't be one at all. Obviously that doesn't mean I think people should be allowed to fuck infants. Existing rape laws can protect children who really can't consent.
Grayson Kelly
Kek thanks for this one, saved
Camden Richardson
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Daniel Johnson
Did he really say all those things?
Xavier Robinson
>defending trump, the israeli poster boy
lmao
Logan Roberts
no, its wishful thinking of the nat soc crowd here. he's still a libertarian.
Idiot neocon zionist "Christian", the oxymoron of the century. He will never name the jew and blames everything in irrelevant Arabs (of course the secular leader like syria).
Matthew Walker
finally, an argument
Julian Collins
There's plenty of evidence.
First of all I feel like we are talking about different things here. I was assuming we were talking about impregnation and not sex. My point still stands for both of the actions but there is a difference. If you want to impregnate a 13 year old girl then we can discuss that. But if you simply want to have the freedom to have sex with 13 year old girls then that's a completly other topic. I welcome arguing pros and cons regarding pedophilia but none of the arguments you have put fourth back your position up.
And for the impregnation, well yeah you don't even really need scientific evidence to prove that it's a stupid idea to be allowed to have a child as a 13 year old. You aren't financially stable, you are still in your learning years and you should be focusing on education and selv-improvment as opposed to having to take care of a child.
Jaxson Rivera
>zero arguments ITT
Hunter Thomas
>shilling for hill
Easton Perry
First of all, 13 year olds isn't pedophilia. Pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. It's only a stupid idea in current society, it was viable before and it can be viable again with law changes, to make females accountable. I'm arguing for a reduction in the age of consent, but an increase in underage pregnancy is an obvious side effect of that, good or bad.
Joshua Morgan
So the objective is to give people more freedom or to increase white birth rates? You have been very back and fourth about this
Josiah Cook
Not at all. It's to give more freedom, increasing white birth rates is a good side effect.
Anthony Murphy
Oh man, great pic user.
Btw, The error in libertarianism isn't capitalism or its ideal of liberty. The error is any acceptance of popular sovereignty, republicanism, or democracy, because these political forms are opposed to private property innately.
When more and more libertarians begin to wake up to monarchism and reactionary thinking, I think libertarianism will gain momentum. The philosophy will no longer have to juglle the idea of anti-egalitarian capitalism with fundamentally egalitarian political systems (popular sovereignty).
Juan Baker
He literally said every single one of those things at the end of a video.
Joseph Hernandez
Alright well I'm not sure why you brought up birth rates in the first place then.
Xavier Watson
He believes classical liberalism for white people is superior to all other races and cultures, how is he not a neo-con?
Nathaniel Perry
Because it's a good reason to support it. You don't think 16 is too high?
Owen Long
We have 15 and it's way too low. 18 is a good number, that's when you get out of highschool and are basically done education (for a lot of people atleast).
I want to have a economically stable society, and we don't have that with a bunch of minors with kids, sadly.
Bentley Reed
Why are you ignoring the husband of the child? What's wrong with a 25 year old having a child with a 13 year old?
Julian Harris
>Implying it's possible to live well today with one working parent only.
This would only benifit the extremly well off males who can afford a young wife and a kid.
Also why couldn't he just marry a wife in his age? Literally the only reason I can come up with is pedophilia
Lucas Adams
Again, pedophilia is prepubescent children. Most males are attracted to postpubescent teens.
Wyatt Rodriguez
>615 ▶ > (You) >Again, pedophilia is prepubescent children. Most males are attracted to postpubescent teens.
So if they are attracted to teens, what happens to them when they grow older? Divorce and remarry another teen?
David Sanchez
Ignore the formatting
Asher Peterson
You better back that shit up with some arguments.
Caleb Bell
Very few people are just into teens, again hence why 'teen' is an extremely popular search term.
Ayden Jenkins
Well you are ignorign the fact that there would be a bunch of retarded kids impregnating themselves and basically becomeing a burden to society. You can't deny the fact that this would happen.
Henry Morales
Eliminate welfare, and create an open market for adoption.
