What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?

What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?

What would become of their socialist utopias without uncle sam to watch their backs?

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The US wants to be the only military on the planet. Its not doing anyone any favors.

Euros will spend more on defense.

The wouldnt be ruled by americans anymore

they cant, murifags love too much to stick their jew nose in business that arent theirs

but could they afford defence and social programs at the same time?

defence is expensive just look at the US

Sometime when you have 81 minutes to spare, watch this whole thing. Pretty good documentary. Used to be on Amazon/Netflix but looks like he decided to just release it on YouTube.

Premise is exactly what OP says: U.S. elects a president that decides to get out of the world stage.

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ty i'll check it out

but could they afford defence and social programs yat the same time?

Yes.

What is America defending Europe against? Yes, nothing. In reality, the whole migrant crisis we have right now was caused by the Bush Iraq invasion, the Bush Afghanistan invasion and the Obama-Cameron-French Libya invasion etc.

Fuck it, we would all be better off without NATO.

I fucking love this gook

Poland would whip them into shape.

If the US steps back I'm pretty sure Europe would become the United States of Russia/China

We would get rid of Obongo's influence. Please make it happen under a Trump presidency

>not even in nato
>our neighbor is russia

makes sense

It's actually mutually beneficial for the US to help out other countries around the world. If they don't, countries like China and Russia would take control of other countries on a whim.

Eventually it would be China and Russia vs the US, UK, and other commonwealth countries. The US and other Anglo countries would lose.

nice gook

>What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?
Fun times in Eastern Europe.

>United States of Russia/China

China has no ambition in Europe.

Russia's economy is 15 times smaller than the EU. Actually, the only thing Russia wants is love and some trade and to sit with us on a table.

Russia would start pecking at europe. We don't stay there because we like fucking europeans and want to defend them we stay there to keep russia from increasing it's power base

US pulling out of Europe absolute top kek the US is in Europe for its own interest not ours.

They can.

It's not too expensive at all. Some euro countries already have a more or less powerfull army

Reginald knows... it just so happens that our interest in Russia involve protecting europe from russia trying to spread it power base

There is no army in europe that could stop russia, us,or china.... they could put up a fight I'm not saying that but they could not win

What would Likly happen is mayo would want to increase its military strength and presence, while the USA does the same. The resulting consequence would a load of proxies between the USA and NATO, also it might lead to some European countries fearing the USA, giving Russia a stronger presence in Europe. I dunno just my 2 cents senpai

They would be fine, they don't need our help.

>us
why even list them?
>china
do they buy a ticket for the trans-siberian railroad to get to yurop?
>russia
Well, it's not the cold war anymore.
Russia is not able to wage a conventional war of conquest against europe in any case.
The former eastern block members would fight tooth and nail while receiving support from the rest of Europe.

germany would remilitarize

>what is yugoslavia

you really don't get it do you

telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/

The migrant crisis was caused by Merkel opening the doors to the world of Islam, using the wars in Iraq and Syria as an excuse.

You delusional if you think the entirety of europe could stand a chance against Russian tanks and infantry swarming your country. China would have logistic issues running a campaign in europe and they would be the least succesful in holding any ground they gained and the US well we have no reason to destroy Europe but if it was necessary no one would help you but islam against us. And we could wage war in europe without ever having to worry about american soil. All of Europe's armed forces combined are less than 25% of our military.

Riddle me this, wasn't the planning and ground work for the EU in place before the CIA existed?

Who cares? It's not our problem anymore and whole narrative about the JewSA "protecting" Europe with NATO is false to begin with.

What would happen to capitalist utopia Canada without America?

>whatis OSS

>Russia is not able to wage a conventional war in Europe
Because the US has a large military presence in Europe. Without the US no Euro military would be strong enough to challenge Russia's military.

How many Leos does Germany have? France, England, Poland? Does it add up to the 5k T-90s Russia has?

Is it really worth the risk though? Not only would Russia and China start expanding territories, but some countries would feel disenfranchised. Some would willingly change sides to go against the USA.

The EU a CIA project? Americans support the brexit.... that is one hell of a project holy shit our CIA is a a fucking beast to manipulate the entirety of Europe to that degree. Get your tin foil hats boys this one is a dousy......

what a top tier qt

i wnt to help clean it up so she feels better

Why would two white peoples [Europe and Russia] need spic-niggers working for the jews to be involved at all?

yes shlomo
>retarded kike trying to kike Sup Forums
fuck off jew

>What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?

>nato
>defending europe

but that's wrong, you fucking retard

What risk? The USA is some kike African shithole. It's mind boggling that anyone in Europe still sides with it as it is.

What garbage.

Firstly
>Slavs
>White

Secondly, wtf are you on about?

Is there anything sadder than the yellow ribbon shill brigade? No, there isn't.

America has far, far more than what is required for defense, it has a military that can deploy anywhere in the world on a whim with absolutely absurd force. Germany isn't slacking in terms of military, but they don't have the insane logistics America does. Yes, I'd say defense is quite affordable.

While you are right you need to realise that you are making the assumption that if the US were to pull out of Europe military spending in Europe wouldn't increase, most of the EU has become complacent with very low military budgets because of Americas presence deters any threats.

They would no longer be able to afford dindus while trying to rebuild their own militaries.

>implications

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I'm honestly not following. Are you saying that the US military presence in Europe hasn't been a deterrent to communist expansion for the last 70 years?

Or are you saying that European militaries are stronger than they actually are?

Europe is going to become a third world muslim shithole no matter what the US does.

Mostly because NATO would go to war with Russia if they stepped a foot inside your country

How are all those Russian jets and submarines making incursions into your territory, by the way?

Sooooo as long as it doesn't fuck with the petro dollar we won't give a shit....

Russia and China are unlikely allies. But they are competition. We know this have been preparing for years. (Pic related) if you notice how many of those little dots surround our competition. And if europeans started jumping ship it wouldn't matter unless we had a strategic base already in the country wanting to change sides. If said base would be important in a war effort, we would go to war with said country to keep it there. We have done it before.

You don't understand. Of course could Russia steamroll Poland for example but they would immediatly bogged down in an asymetrical warfare campaign. It would be partisans everywhere.
Also if the industrial power in Europe would be converted to a war footing Russia would be outproduced in no time.

The US military IS the communist expansion. The US military and the US in general is GROUND ZERO for global Marxism -- not Russia. You are a delusional, worthless faggot who should stop posting.

Every single European country that has allied with the US has been turned into a nigger-filled, kike-ruled shit hole of drugs and violence. Every single country that does NOT ally with the US stays White and peaceful.

God damn you idiots are dense.

They'd get a nice hefty dose of national debt, but would likely not have the sense to send economic migrants home.

>those legs

islamic countires would invade and take over europe. oh wait...

Even something like the extra 5-10 euro money dollars they save is going to social investments. That's a shit ton of welfare spread over their small population.

I kinda wish that would happen, so we could rebuild our militaries.

But the same could be for Estonia. They are a little shit country.

True, true. I'm not an expert, but they likely would have to cut back on social benefits.

Or maybe the major European countries have sufficient defense. Who knows.

>Asymmetrical warfare
Sure, like what happened when eastern Europe was under Soviet control the first time, right?
>Industrial power
Industrial power that would have to be built, which takes time. Time is something Europe doesn't have, considering Russia has twice as many AFVs as all major Euro militaries combined and the speed of modern warfare.

Euros also don't have the logistical capacity to deploy outside of their countries in large numbers. This is something they rely on the Americans for, again.
Ah, alright, you're just retarded. Got it. That explains the contextual-less ramblings earlier.

Ummmm no reason to get your knickers in a twist reggie ol boy kek shit is ridiculous though. We have been known to do it in central and south america. Just didn't think europeans could be easily manipulated.... third world yes, European first world.... if so my hats off to the CIA one hell of a job kek

Every state that has allied with the US becomes complacent in their duties to their national defense.

Thus their pride in their country dwindles, they become limp wristed faggot liberals.

It's the same thing that happens to children coddled by their parents.

it's like you have no knowledge of ww2

Get out of our countries fat scum

That's the entire point of the thread Nigel.

Without being able to rest comfortably under the blanket of Freedom we provide, Europe would have to actually spend more on defense and the gibs would have to be cut.

You guys could probably turtle on your island and be safe but the rest of Europe would be in deep shit in that circumstance.

It says a lot about your country that you can be bullied by fat fuck stupid shits so easily.

No. It is deliberate flooding by the American imperium. For US protection, you must murder, slay, dispossess your own people. You must Africanize. You must Judaize.

It's nothing but narratives that worthless Red State Randy's repeat to themselves to keep believing in their yellow ribbon lie. The US is an African Communist terror state that attacks Europe [see refugee flow] whenever Europe shows signs of breaking away.

Yeah, those 1700 command staff that train your shitty excuse for an army sure are burdensome to your thriving economy of incest and caravan stealing.

>flooding

No one in the US was calling for Europe's conversion to Islam.

They chose their fate freely.

I don't see the big jewish boot on Hungary for refusing refugees.

That's funny considering it is the EU and Angela Merkel leading the movement for importing refugees.

Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't I'm saying in the state it is in now. I know what you mean though and it is causing problems between us believe it or not we have requested that Britain, France, and Germany increase defense spending so it isn't all on us.... and you all said no. I have no problem protect Britain or British interest (despite Americans hating to hear it we are of British origin, our founding fathers were british, always protect your origin) but I don't think we should do the same for any other European nation... which is ironic considering britain would probably be the only ones decently capable of protecting themselves without american support.

>Sure, like what happened when eastern Europe was under Soviet control the first time, right?
It's not WW2. No one would see Russia as a savior anymore.
>Industrial power that would have to be built
Again, it's not WW2 anymore. Europes industry is basically decentralized and highly flexible. Modern CNC tools can reprogrammed in minutes and every little company could be producing parts for the war effort in no time.
>Euros also don't have the logistical capacity to deploy outside of their countries in large numbers.
Overseas. Inside of Europe it's no problem at all.
Or do you think we need American help to move tanks from Spain to Poland for example.

We would probably have fiewer nukes pointed at us for starters.

I don't think so the British are never beyond fixing, they are self rightous and arrogant, but never stupid.

cuck

Angela Merkel is a puppet of the US. No German head of state can act outside of parameters set entirely by the occupying US military.

It is not coincidence that the refugee flow originates from US terror campaigns in Libya and Syria, and traverses through US military stronghold Turkey, to end up in US military possession Germany.

It is a deliberate attack on the populations of Europe because the US military does not trust White Europeans to fight alongside nigger-spic Americans in service of the jew against White Russians.

The US is an African Communist terror state.

Your country is a joke and you are fat as shit

>It's not WW2. No one would see Russia as a savior anymore.
No one did after WW2 either. As soon as the Russians rolled through they starting raping and killing people. No partisan movement then.
>Again, it's not WW2 anymore. Europes industry is basically decentralized and highly flexible. Modern CNC tools can reprogrammed in minutes and every little company could be producing parts for the war effort in no time.
Ah, so you have no idea what you're talking about.
>Or do you think we need American help to move tanks from Spain to Poland for example.
Yes. In the numbers needed to counter the Russians in Poland, you would need American help.

What's that beer you guys brew in Plovdiv? Shit's tasty.

>Opening up the doors
You mean thousands of rapefugees charging the eupean borders and tearing those said doors down? They couldn't refuse them at that point and claim to be humanitarian.

That's an intelligent reply reginald

You should drop your proxy Vlad.

>Europe
>socialist utopias

>american
>constantly talking about food
Ftfy

if this girl wasnt so gookie she would've successfully handed me my coke

It would depend on how much time you took to withdraw slowly over a decade and it would probably be fine, a year with no prior warning? The east would be absolutely fucked apart from the French and ourselves the rest of Europe would have no way to defend against such a steam roll.

shes a big girl

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Angela merkel is a puppet of russia you fucking autist she practically worked for the shtasi and has been commended for being fluent in Russian

Whatever you say man, I've gotten drunk in all but three European countries, and Bulgaria had the best mass-market beer.

How's the beer landscape in Romania?

Which one exactly? Пиpинcкo?

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Keep telling yourself that everyone who sees you for what you are is a Russian shill.

Paris, London, Detroit, Atlanta, Houston, Los Angeles, Birmingham, Chicago, Berlin, Palermo, Marseille, Brussels all speak for themselves.

So do St. Petersburg, Minsk, Bratislava, Talinn, Vilnus, Budapest.

The deeper you get in with the US, the worse your country gets. Americans need to nig up your country like they nig up their own families.

>Amerifats ITT trying to convince the yuros that their military presence is necessary everywhere because muh russky evil empire

No one told you to open your borders...