Redpill me on Yugoslavia

Who were the real aggressors in this war? Who was mostly in the right? What was the point in breaking up a federation that made you relevant and protected from outside interest so you became the most irrelevant states in Europe? What is stopping you from being united? Can you ever become united again, and should you?

My parents are Croats from Bosnia. It's impossible to tell who was right or wrong because the entire narrative is obfuscated by patriotism. All slavs are stubborn people who will never admit they're wrong.
Yugoslavia failed because all socialist countries fail and the only thing holding it together was Tito.
The chances of another Yugoslavia are slim because Pan-slavism is joke.

Serbs held all highest positions in army and politics,basically most influential of all republics. Slovenians,Croats,Shqiptars did not like that. Macedonians and Bosniaks were poor and happy they were protected so they did not care.

Tldr cucks to the northwest fought with the slavshits to the northeast who fought muslims to the north everyone lost then the manlet roaches to the south chimped out in Kosovo forcing the slavshits to remove roach and getting bombed.

Meanwhile we sat in our mountains, drinking wine, being Illyrian and reking the cucks to the northwest a bit.

Your mom

No

Wait, I'm confused, which is which? And aren't basically all of you illyrian and slav, with varying degrees?

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literally this. nobody even knows why it all started at that exact time but it was destined to fail cos slavs just can't stay unified

Cucks = Croacucks
Muslims = Bosniaks
Slavshits = Serbcucks
Manlet roaches = Albozerg

Master race Illyrians = Montenegrins

Thanks for clarifying senpai

Multiculti doesn't work Sweden.
You'll see soon enough

arent you guys actually Italians?

Edvard Rusjan (1886-1911) the pioneer of Slovene motorised aviation and was also the first in Slovenia and on the Balkans to fly a self-made plane.

Yeah it doesn't work because we imported hordes of culturally incompatible regressive retards from a third-world with values that directly contradict our own, you slavs however? Nah, I think multiculturalism works in your case. You just have to let go of your retarded nationalism and realize you're pretty much the same and can achieve much greater things working together.

What makes the Slovenes different from Croatians, and the Montenegrins from the Serbs?

As I understand it that other south Slavs are differentiated because of religion and cultural influence, with the Albanians being a separate group altogether, but I never understood those two groups.

What I want explained is blonde bosniaks.

What the fuck are they? Random blonde haired blue eyed people amongst shitskin slavs? Are they true aryans or what's the deal-io here?

Different genes

>Nah, I think multiculturalism works in your case

There was literally a war that tore them apart you fucking faggot. It did not work.

All Yugoslavs are a people more similar than the Germans amongst themselves.

We are just a bunch of retards who never had the guts to say "Screw it all, we are all Yugoslavs, hail Dušan, Njegoš, Miloš, Tvrtko, Tomislav, Jelačić,..."

As 30something% montenigger I agree.

Saldy yes, panslavism turned to shit

>Who were the real aggressors in this war?

The West using proxi armies of croatian nationalists and muslims

>Who was mostly in the right?

Technically speaking Serbs were the only nation in that war that fought of keeping the Yugoslavia together (what a fucking bad decision mite I add)

>What was the point in breaking up a federation that made you relevant and protected from outside interest so you became the most irrelevant states in Europe?

It's actually really simple. Commie-ish state + industrial power to rival the western Europe factories = better stop them anyway we can. The EU factories and companies don't need any competition. Just look at how EU is structured.

> What is stopping you from being united?

Right now? Bad blood. Wrongdoings of a group of people stay in the collective mind far longer than wrongdoings of any single man. Much blood was spilled and it was a civil war. Brother against brother. And on top of that the west doesn't want people uniting they want them splitting. Easier to control it that way.

>Can you ever become united again, and should you?

Yes we should. But there are two ways. One is gradual let the older generations die promote friendship and in 50 years nobody gives a fuck what happened. That will never happen becausue the West is fueling the hate for reasons above.

The other way is the old fashioned way but that one is not happening cause nobody here is stupid enough to go fight a war for some politician.

Because of misguided and stupid nationalism. Get rid of that, and they'll be fine. If Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland and Denmark created a Scandinavian Union we'd do fine, why can't they?

How come you people dont realise that Spain, Russia, Romania, Germany in 1880s etc were more or arw more multiculty than us?

Hell there is as much difference between us as between Tyroleans and Styreans

To anyone who likes this country they were racist against Italians ant Tito had a "final solution' for italians. This isn't even a joke look up this ethnic clensing.

Aaaaand the Serb-Western-conspiracy persecution-complex oy vey its anudda NATO bombing nigger enters the fray. Shame, because we had a pretty reasonable discussion.

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>implying that Boba and his squad werent CIA assets
Everyone is more or less to blame for it, but slovenia especially.

And yeah, much bad blood, but what of the good? King Tomislav saving serbia, Bosnia and Croatia fighting at Kosovo, serbs helping defend the croat border....

>Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland and Denmark

You are literally the same people, with the same religion, same culture, with almost (except Finnish) the same language. That isn't multicultural.

Yugoslavia had different languages, different religions, different cultures, etc.

Fuck off Albania.

Not an argument.

I stand behind what I said.

Is it really that hard to believe that the West (which is controlled by big money) wanted to destroy their competition?

Fucking USA invaded a country because of fucking banana prices. Why would we any different to them?

All the Slavs that came here proudly called themselves Yugoslavs, the nationalists just managed to whip everyone up into a fury so they could use each other as scapegoats for how they were just as shit at governing as Yugoslavia

Serbs held all the important positions, for example if there are like 15 generals in army, only 1 was Croatian.

Slovenia and Croatia were among the "richest countries", so a lot of funds were taken form them and were spent in poorer parts of Serbia. Also whenever people critisied the central power, there would be always saying "Thats what you get for when you fight for Germans in WW2"

People realised that from a great idea of united slavic nations Yugoslavia was slowly turning into Greater Serbia, which was a wet dream for every right wing politician in Serbia since like WW1.

Somehow radicals got into power, situation was never really good and war exploded real fast.

Yugoslavia was a country without future, ruled by iron first Tito, ever since he died there wasn't any simmiliar iron first leader.

It's complex, but you can't make a new state where half of the country fought for the Germany in WW2, and other half for the communists.

In families, one brother went for ustaše and another one went for partizans

OMG you guys don't know do you? The reason it fell was because they were genociding Italians so the U.S stepped in.

Linguistically the Balkan languages are pretty much as different as our languages are, and their religion shouldn't really matter because of secularism, I've never even met any religious Bosniaks, Serbs or Croats, and their cultures are basically as different as Bavarians and Prussians. It can work.

>Italians steal slavic lands
>historical assholeism from Italians
>expect to be spared

Yugoslavia has one language plus 2 made up ones by half-german stableboys and wannabe grecobulgars.
As for the religion part, they all worship the same jewish (flase) god, and most dont take it seriously either way.

Protestants and catholics murdered eachother in Germany costing 13 million lives in the 30years war... Yet united

Former Yugoslav languages, rather. Not Balkan languages.

>>Italians steal slavic lands
>>historical assholeism from Italians
>>expect to be spared

But what about the Italians living in Italy that had nothing to do with that eh? What about the Italians in yugoslavia who supported the Yugoslavian government eh? He killed all those guys for NO REASON

The USA are the Ottoman empire of today

We suffer from a lack of nationalism. We need Yugoslav nationalism ASAP

This makes sense, and this seems to be the consensus amongst my Yugoslavian friends

Oh yeah, tons of competition here, dang let's start funding absolutely irrelevant foreign powers to start war with this insignificant country that no one gives a shit about, because profits, right?

I only feel bad that the new generation in your country is also spoonfed that bullshit from Slobodan, it will take quite a few years before your people will wake up.

>ignoring the huge racism to Italian-Yugoslavians

I am disappointing.

>be last Bosnian king
>half your army is heretic
>beg Venecians and the Pope for help
>force you to purge the heretics
>civil war
>Italians never send help
>Turks cut your head off

Or
>be catholic merchant in Zadar
>Venetians force the crusaders to murder you and sack your city
>Italians are to blame for the fall of Constantinopolis later on

Historical justice if anything... Not that I hate italians or any white people, further more, SFRY wasnt national Yugoslavia but socialist Yugoslavia, blame the reds for that matter

t. Asimovic

What the fuck is up with your fetish for italians? What were they doing in Yugoslavia anyways? Probably deserved to die

t. Bunkerdwelling goatrapist

Looks like the only roach with internet in manletland is back at it.

Some diaspora most likely

My village was occupied by the italians during WW2. My mom told me all the cats disappeared permanently :(

If you mean Serbian, Croatian and Bosnian they're basically the same language. Even then Slovenian and Macedonian are way more similar than Swedish and German.

> I've never even met any religious Bosniaks, Serbs or Croats

Sadly more of them are getting rather religious. I've had to cut ties with family and friends due to that.

I like you swede, you are ok

Yugoslavia basically lead a third bloc in the cold war. Yugoslavia indirectly had been influencing 1.5 billion people, thus making it one of the most powerful nations in Europe and the world.

It's entire economy was nationalised, which is a thorn in the eyes of the neoliberal capitalists ruling over Amerika

we were essentially cucked by austrians for a large part of our history, and it shows in our culture and even language to some degree

So they deserved to die for living there? Heres what it was. Tito had an ethnic hatred for Italians and wanted them all dead. And some Italians wanted to support Tito but Tito killed them all.

we had this thread yesterday

Pol had most threads many times, so yeah

Serbs ate too much shit and tried to keep Yugoslavia together by all means, croats jusy always want to be in charge,and Serbs would never let them,(after ww2 its understandable) . Slovenians just escaped Yugoslavia when it got too hot. Anyways, Yugoslavia without croats would surive,but with them no chance, also yugo without serbs would surive... So mixing croats and serbs is not good,too similar and yet too different

>Serbs try to live near Muslims
>Muslims think that rape is normal and constant expansion is the highest goal in life
>Serbs punished for tolerance by being attacked and losing clay
>Finally they start defending themselves
>Europe says no, this is barbarism
>Serbia says, you did not see what they did to us
>Europe says, what did they do to you? What are you, a baby? You can't handle a little rough-housing?
>Serbia says, IT'LL HAPPEN TO YOU.
>Europe: never.
>Serbia: YOU THINK YOU CAN LIVE NEXT DOOR AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. YOU WONDER WHY YOU NO LONGER SEE GIRLS ON THE STREETS. YOU HEAR ABOUT CRIME AND TELL YOURSELF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
THEN ONE DAY YOU PICK UP YOUR NPAP.
>Europe: Stop being ridiculous. I would never react like you did. I could totally handle the same situation without wanting to get violent.

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>montenigger

Sounds to me like they were southern shitskin italians, so what the fuck were they doing in Yugoslavia? They were probably stealing and partaking in criminal activity such as the gypsies here in Swärje.

Yes they deserve to die because they lived there, because they had no business being there as "Italians"

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Do people not care about the lives of innocent italians?

You are speaking of AP Kosovo right?

Wow the cuckold who fucked this up is talking about """"""""unity"""""""""

>literally invaded them and set up a puppet state to cleanse yugos
yeah i dont know man

Sure buddy even though many were just civilians. It's like if NAtive Americans started killing Americans on the street for stealing their land would you take the side of the Native?

>indirectly influencing 1.5 billion people
KEK
I haven't laughed that hard in a while, thanks for the comedy gold Bosnia-Serb

>fucked it up
That were the US who brought neoliberal capitalism to Europe which is the reason of mass immigration, anti-nationalism etc

>implying Swedish Empire wasnt based

>innocent
>italian

Face it, Giuliani, the Romans and Renaissance Italains =/= modern "Italian"

Kek, the way you worded that post really makes me think you're baiting
Alright, go back to your Trump thread. Stop shitting up this thread, fucking amerilards

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Yugoslavia had been at the head of the UAL which included India, most of based Arab dictators and negrosocialists. Yugoslavia was for the UAL what Germany is for the EU.

Exactly so they should have been left alone

You've been pegged as a troll

Why was yugoslavia so racist?

>civilized people try to live near Serbs
>ethnic persecution occurs
>civilized people want to secede
>serbs genocide
>NATO intervenes
>serbs lose 4 wars in 10 years
>serbs continue to cry persecution and edit wikipedia to this day

FTFY senpai

I know Ja!!

lmao

and they killed italians

Swedes are shitskin anyway (yes Swedish vikings were desribed as swarthy by the celts and saxons). Get the fuck off this thread shitskin!

WW2 peace treaty gave Istria to Yugoslavia, Tito then ethnically cleansed all the italians living there, a small genocide!

can you shut the fuck up already

Hey if it makes you feel better Leafy I don't agree with Tito killing Italians :^)

Well ok Tito was a penis

Kek why did you respond to this post and not the relevant one You sound like a butthurt diaspora. Atleast have some pride and don't make it so obvious. You're a shame.

Not until my peoples genocide gets properly recognized

Thx man.

Clearly not enough

>Serbs held all the important positions, for example if there are like 15 generals in army, only 1 was Croatian.

People keep saying this, yet when you look at the political powestructure it's very little Serbs whatsoever. Both after and especially before Tito's (a literal Croat who managed everything) death.

It's the provincial mindset, waving your fist at the invisible boogeyman who keeps holding you down. All slavs have this problem.

He just wants (You)'s.

>tfw you will never genocide the remaining italians
Fuck off with you're cuck italian ancestry

We need Macedonia to have all the yugoballs in one place

>outside interest
there's your reason

STFU serb your subhuman

Istria had been Venetian clay for a long time and was part of Italy too until WW2, at least 1/3 of the inhabitants spoke italian.

It was ethnic cleansing not genocide
If it makes you feel any better, i didnt like the jew tito that much pssh

>macedonia
what do you need a greek region for?

>Same people

He dindu nuffin,he was a good boy!!!

You have to get at the back of the like, there is a gorillion other genocides waiting for recognition

We are our greatest foes...

Will you be getting Savoy back too then and returning Tyrol to Austria?

*Northern Macedonia
If that makes you happy

UAL? Ultimate Armwrestling League?

Face it brainwashed Serb living in Bosnia, Yugoslavia was never relevant to world politics. The only reason NATO got involved was because Serbs were killing off civilians. There was no money to be made from Yugopoors, they had no resources, no jobs, barely any economy. Every time you cry Western conspiracy it makes you look like a fool. Literally Africa tier, it must be embarrassing as fuck to be from the country that shamed Europe and put us back into WWII-era massacres.

No he didn't he holocausted Italians

No.

Strawman
we didn't genocide the austrians in Sud-Tyrol

Multiculti must be constatly funded with money to keep illusion and people don't care too much because they are living well.
Cut the money, well.....

also tu quoque

Guys stop talking about Tito.