Here In California the Northern half of the state has been paying for the southern half's bullshit while also having to deal with their shitty gun laws and water restrictions. We get no representation in sacramento because there are no major cities up here. The time has come for northern California to split and become the new state of Jefferson.
Northern California: >Beautiful small towns like Mt. Shasta and Weed(lmao) >Friendly, but hardy and hardworking people >Beautiful mountains and coastline >lots of water and farmland >mostly white
Southern California: >San Fransisco, LA, Sacramento, Chico, Oakland. >All whites are either trash or snooty rich libtards >polluted ocean with no sea life >farmland all torn down to make way for suburbs, which become ghettos after about 20 years >niggers and spics as far as your eyes can see
RESULTS OF SPLIT: >Make LA and Sacramento pay for their water and food to come from northern California, forcing them to do something useful to pay for said food and water. >loosen gun laws in the new state of Jefferson. >Get to watch southern California die since they won't be able to get their population to do anything
Jordan Phillips
>Southen California >>Sacramento
Are you literally retarded? Sacramento is North California you idiot, even in your shitty picture.
Please, what city are you from?
Brayden Roberts
Jajajajajaja I don't have to post any other images, since any image searched of Northern California looks like this.
Kill yourself faggot.
Daniel Perez
>Sacramento >Northern California No The pic is old as shit, no relevance Sacramento goes to southern California with the rest of the trash, it's pretty much universally agreed it's not norther California.
Morons like you think anything north of LA is northern cali, go die queer.
Samuel Taylor
I am from ukiah sacramento can be an honorary south cali city state
Carter Morris
if you actually bothered to read the article you would realize its only the northernmost 20 counties filing for this movement. but reading would be too much work for you wouldn't it?
Blake Young
Southern California is one of the last bastion's of American manufacturing.
Carson Rogers
Yah and not a single person from California is working those jobs. They all come from either Mexico or the other states, as SoCal faggots have no labor skills
Asher Jenkins
You're ridiculous to even start to believe that Sacramento is any way considered Southern California. It never has been and never will be Southen California, seeing as it geographically can't be, oh, and that it happens to be the capital, not to mention the plethora of idiots who have never been to Sacramento, but somehow know all about it.
What? Kill yourself. Just go away.
This isn't about the article, cunt. This is about how Sacramento couldn't possibly be a part if Southern California.
Cooper Peterson
Redding Bro reporting in. I lived near Sacramento (Granite Bay) before, I wouldn't mind keeping in the North State. Placer County is pretty fucking great
Hunter Sanders
You northerners are the ones with San Francisco and Sacramento.
Elijah Phillips
>This isn't about the article, cunt
fuck off then. no one cares at all about your opinions
Easton Jenkins
Please nuke San Francisco
t. Oaklandfag
Ayden Richardson
No fucking way. I was born in Ukiah too! In fact lay lil sis just graduated high school there this weekend and I was in town.
Brayden Kelly
Any Placer County brethren?
Oliver Thomas
Fuck north and south, draw an arbitrary boundary around LA/San Diego/San Francisco/Sacramento and quarantine them into their own state.
Alexander Murphy
What does North North California even do mate. Aside from farming is their anything redeeming about the far north.
Matthew Williams
We singlehandedly provide water to the rest of the state. It wouldn't have to be that way if Brown wasn't a turbonigger and would push for more reservoirs. Our latest drought really should have been a wake up call.
Jaxon Green
Redwood national park, wineries, skiing and snowboarding tourism, tech companies in San jose and almost all of California's beef and almond industry.
Nathaniel Baker
Op considers San Jose as part of his "southern California"
Jackson Johnson
It's where a lot of America's wood comes from, but due to south cali's hippie laws on tree cutting that's being brought down as well. Other then that, we have farmers, water, and the community is completely self-reliant, many small towns up here don't even have a wal-mart or other superstore, everything is pretty much local.
Nicholas Long
Ops retarded, whether we like it or not, anything north and west of sfo is norcal.
I'd love to disown Sacramento and Stockton but geography doesn't lie.
Hudson Collins
Geography has nothing to do with it, state lines can be drawn wherever is necessary.
Jordan Martin
Does The US Constitution mention how state government have to be structured.
I would love to see a state that doesn't directly inherit the federal system
Jordan Hernandez
>turbonigger
Your all right with me mang.
Christian Martin
san diego is fuckin crazy man.im from virginia and was there a few years ago and its fucking shocking. there is no grass on driveways and the portos(portueguese?)spray paint it green?ridiculous. dog beach looks like it was built in the 50's and the sandstone cliffs look so unbelievably unstable i cant believe bouses were allowed to be built on that shit.everything is paved. california coast is pretty cool and all and weather is super temperate but shit man i dont see the draw to see the dense ass population i saw in southern cali. dont know why but overall feeling i got from socal-carlsbad? just areas around sd was it was spooky.hard to describe but just seemed run down and tired.
Caleb Ross
They would most likely follow existing county borders because those are established and governed.
Anything else would cost more and be far more difficult.
Evan Parker
nor cal is based. fuck so cal.
Gabriel Adams
Draw it from the northeast corner of el doroto to the northwest corner of Marin county
Owen Smith
...
Robert Richardson
Nigga, nuking SF would fuck your shit up good.
Henry Murphy
WEED, dumbass.
Jaxon Butler
>Marin county >no rockies, no eastern conservative counties You are legitimately retarded
Joshua Fisher
But how do we pick up San Diego and move it somewhere else?
Michael James
Nvm I misunderstood. That's a good line user.
Jaxson Johnson
This makes sense though we probably should include El Dorado County. It totally makes sense to include Solano and Yolo counties. They're pretty conservative and very "northern."
Napa won't care as long as the tourist bux keep rollin' in. Hell, they can start charging to export their wine to SoCal.
Hunter Perez
I thought about it and decided it was to close to san fran.
Austin Martinez
delete this
Samuel Richardson
WTF why does Minnesota rate so high on manufacturing jobs ? We did have a Ford plant down recently. Even without that though im still amazed that we have that many manufacturing jobs
Ian Morris
>nevada county should be capital of nor nor based pistol shaped county
Logan Foster
Personally, I'd put yuba or Shasta in charge, but I don't think either has the population.
Jeremiah Cox
*close
You know where it goes
Lincoln Jackson
Better fixed
Isaac Rivera
sutter, not yuba. Yuba city is in sutter and sutter is in yuba, i always forget.
Ryan Bell
califrexit when
Noah Miller
Yuba city/marysville area complete shots how's though.
Aaron Bell
How much money does Jefferson make?
In Illinois there is similar (perhaps even more intense) discourse between Chicagoland and downstate, because Chicagoland is corrupt as fuck and outvotes the rest of the state combined. As a result, downstate wants out.
The problem is, Like most states, the majority of Illinois' wealth comes from its major city (or cities). So while downstate would be free from chicago's libtardation and iron fist, it would also become extremely poor.
Would the same thing not happen in California?
Nolan Wood
Northern California has a lot of industry. Between wineries, tourism, national parks, cattle, agriculture, and mountain resorts we'd do okay. Not as rich as the southern half but a LOT less illegals sapping welfare, a lot more conservative, no sanctuary cities, etc
I honestly think it would be a net positive for NorCal and a huge loss for SoCal. I mean then they'd have to pay for the water they steal from NorCal.
Leo Martinez
If you only go North of Sacramento, you're going to have a population of like 5 people and be poor as shit with like no GDP
Ryan Wilson
>idiot who's never been north of Sacramento The cities are much smaller, that's true, but thats what makes this part of the state better.
A LOT of nice small towns that have strong community with local small businesses, agriculture and with conservative views.
NorCal is BestCal
>pic kinda related, this is what ca was like before illegals could vote. These places tend to be the exact opposite of San Francisco. Conservative, hardworking, strong communities, beautiful landscapes.
Christian Thompson
This is what happens when dems get into power and use the power to bring in immigrants they can bribe with gibs to ensure they never lose power.
The only people who lose are the citizens, and it's a losing battle because there are more and more of them everyday with none leaving thanks to sanctuary cities.
Cameron Anderson
I don't think he'd mind.
Matthew Watson
Did you follow a natural barrier like a river?
Justin Bennett
>implying northern California is better >implying the part of the state that voted for a communist is the preferable half
into the trash it goes
Easton Diaz
>implying the half that voted for hilldawg is better >not showing the republican vs democrat graphs
Josiah Turner
We followed the barrier that separates "DUDE WEED LMAO" Californians from hardworking Americans.
Jackson Long
Would you prefer they voted for Hillary?
David Robinson
Hey it's all about Davis.
Ryan Watson
Fuck davis and the fucking hippies
Henry Harris
>3.8 million democrats to 1.1 million republicans
race war when
Christian Carter
Those trips say right now.
Isaiah Allen
Split it along the Sierras, Owens valley goes to SoCal / Mojave and Central Valley goes to NorCal. That way we wont fight over water.
Jefferson gets more representation to fight back against SF / Sacramento, and SoCal gets to become a soulless industrial powerhouse.
Brody Moore
>not wanting water wars between Best California and Aztlanifornia
Bentley Nelson
No. North cal keeps the water. Soulth cal must pay. And san fran goes to soulth cal.
Jaxon Parker
Northern Cali is literal shit full of fucking Hillary supporters
Asher Rivera
>Implying its not full of Trump supporters as-well. You're a fucking cunt, you know that?
Carter Bailey
I was just talking about this idea to a friend. itd make far more sense than splitting up Virginia or the dakotas. California is fucking huge and they don't even share the same political backgrounds but Hollywood and San fagcisco decide who the whole votes for
Liam Bell
Applies to SoCal too then..
Charles Watson
No, that's asinine. SoCal needs way more water than NorCal due to its higher population and drier climate. NorCal already gets more as it is in that partition.
Adam Roberts
see
Literally the opposite is true
Luis Nelson
We keep everything north of sac, they have everything south. Your pic gave Jefferson a whole bunch of land we DO NOT WANT.
Luke Collins
Well it's still shit I don't know what's up with all the 'North Cal is better' shilling
Ryder Baker
Nor Cal is a different brand of shitty from socal.
San Diego born and raised but il admit nor Cal is somewhat refreshing when your passing through. different way of life and less celeb worship
Justin Cooper
>SoCal needs way more water than NorCal Too bad.
Levi Sanchez
Our legislature as it is will not agree to letting Jefferson secede. It needs to be partitioned into NorCal / SoCal first, then Jefferson can secede once they have more clout. SF and LA fucking hate each other, they'd be much more inclined to agree to that partition than simply letting Jefferson secede because everyone loves Jefferson's nature / mountains.
Justin Perry
You need to take needs of the states seriously if you have any hope of this succeeding. If you try to leave SoCal with no water then we wont agree to it and you'll be stuck with us forever.
Dylan Garcia
What fucking kind of faggot are you that thinks Sacrafuckingmento is in southern Cal?
>Make LA and Sacramento pay for their water and food to come from northern California
Sacramento is on the fucking river faggot. And all the food comes from the Fresno area, not Weed/Yreka/etc.
Yeah I took the bait ...
Zachary Diaz
I'm a machinist, go fuck yourself
Ian Lopez
You have to go back.
Joseph Murphy
No, because we have support from Nevada and Oregon. If we can't split, we'll join one of them.
Joseph Flores
My family's been here since the gold rush, like I said: go fuck yourself.
Liam Rivera
>we have support from Nevada and Oregon
First of all, no you don't. Second of all, their opinions are totally irrelevant to Sacramento's decision making process. They don't vote in our elections, they don't have control over interstate commerce. Nothing they say matters.
Connor Turner
I don't think you realize how much hatred we have for you up here. One more nigrossity from gov brown would be all it takes before the towns up here rally together, and they've already started in protest of the fucking water bills we have to pay.
Landon Nguyen
I'm sure you hate our guts, but guess what? We don't give a fuck. We wont let you secede through legislation, and if you protest we'll just ignore you like we have for the past 70 years or treat you like those wackos who tried to take the wildlife refuge up in Oregon. Your population would be smaller than Kansas, you don't fucking matter to the rest of the state. Your best bet is to play off the animosity between the Bay Area and LA and once us two split you can split from them through legislation.
Jeremiah Russell
If they did that they'd still end up stuck with a big city fucking up all their shit. What would be the point?
Daniel Parker
Then we would have 3 states, one of which is completely useless, one of which is almost useless, and one called Jefferson. I'm well aware the state of Jefferson is a dream at best, but being lumped in with the faggots down there is more than I can take anymore.
There are good God-fearing conservative people in SoCal, don't make us take the bay area. Use the proposed six state solution.
John Lee
>the Jefferson meme again Never gonna happen. We're better off as one state anyway. We'd be two shitty states rather than one great state. Why not start a California secssionist thread instead next time?
Thomas Nguyen
I thought about the 6 state, but then it becomes a clusterfuck of counties having to trade resources between new state lines, something that even putting in Jefferson would make a pain in the ass.>We're better off as one state anyway Correction: southern California couldn't survive without us, even though they make the laws. Jefferson would do just fine by it's self. Socal can figure themselves out and stop mooching off us.
Lucas Ross
You can fight off both the Bay and LA or just the Bay.
which would you prefer?
No, this is stupid. Why the hell should Sacramento be its own state separate from the Bay Area? And San Bernardino, Orange County, and Riverside have WAY more in common with LA than San Diego, which is too small to be its own major city. Also gives nearly all the water to central California. It's overly convoluted, which is the reason why it didn't get the required number of signatures.
Owen Wright
Are you guys mad because we make fun of you for saying hella? We'll stop if we hurt your feelings. The six state plan was crafted by silicon valley Jews so they wouldn't have to pay as much taxes. You fell for it. It would cripple the entire state. Splitting the state in two is bad, in six would be a disaster.
William Richardson
I've always been a Cascadia fan myself
But just splitting Norcal and Socal is stupid
Despite the memes, no californians actually want this
Nolan Davis
The bay is an economic sinkhole, it would kill Jefferson in less that a few years trying to support it. They produce literally nothing. Were mad because we have to pay stupid prices to pump water that's 20 feet below our fucking houses. We can't cut trees on our own property. Our logging industry is in the toilet because the stupid fucks in sac and LA don't know how logging works, or realize we plant like 3 or 4 trees for each one we chop. Socal is a blight on America and I'm tiered of being associated with you.
Gavin Roberts
Stfu every Californian who's not brainwashed north of Sutter country wants this, and a lot of them south of it want it to. We shouldn't have to foot their bill when we get no representation.
Joshua Brooks
>We shouldn't have to foot their bill when we get no representation. Fucking thank you
Samuel Davis
Well you and a couple of other polacks are the only ones. Most Californians don't want this.
Adam Morales
No, most SOUTHERN Californians don't want this, because it means they will have to get jobs so the state can tax them and buy water. Up north, were all rallied behind it.
Alexander Rogers
>SF, Oakland, Sacramento >South California >Confirmed for Oregon transplant
As far as i'm concerned, you north-niggers are Canadian refugees
Dominic Brooks
Right here mother fucker, Tahoe Born and raise! The California schools are such shit that I went to School on the Nevada side in Incline.
Logan Foster
SF is NORCAL
SF = NOR CAL
Send the niggers and spics to socal so SF can become a paradise again.
Fucking homeless and illegals. Send them all to Mexico.