I'm reading an essay on Adorno and Jazz, and although I agree...
Why the hell has it got to do with capitalism? This wave of "philosophers" who relate reality problems with capitalism, such as Sartre and Adorno, are simply creating a pseudo-science.
>Life in late capitalism is a permanent rite of initiation: all must show that they identify, without the slightest resistance, with the powers to which they are submitted. This is found in the basis of the the syncope of the jazz, which mocks the stumbles and, at the same time, elevates them to the condition of Norm.
This is not due to capitalism. This is due to what is called "Life at the bottom", a life with poor spiritual, cultural, and social values, which comes with the modern world. It can and could be noticed everywhere, even in the 17th century Germany, to the USSR.
William Jenkins
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Luis Gutierrez
why did he hate jazz so much
Oliver Gutierrez
probably racist
Andrew Robinson
Capitalism at that that point was just another word for society. Capitalism was everything that was happening at the time, while communism wasn't regarded as a competing ideology but as the next logical step after freeing people from capitalism. It was only later that capitalism and communism would be paired and contrasted and it obviously took longer for people like Adorno.
Michael Young
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Jose Morales
You are probably right. But there are still some "philosophers" who think like that, such as Zizek. But yeah, Zizek is a philosopher for the masses, so that's understandable.
Luke Howard
I can't decide what's worse: Adorno or jazz. Siding with either is just resigning oneself to remaining the filling of the kosher sandwich.
Brandon Lopez
Zizek is the fat autist at recess who poops himself. Instead of trains, he is autistic about Jewish pseudophilosophers like (((Marx))) or the (((Frankfort School))), or misinterpreting Western thinkers and artwork from a Hebraic psychoanalytic or Marxist viewpoint.
Evan Flores
Is Charles Ives just Moondog with resources?
Kevin Robinson
>Have you had many of your music played? >How much in general 2 pieces for orchestra, 4 string quartets, 2 solo pieces (flute, viola), 3 or 4 chamber pieces. All of these with multiple rehearsals and a performance. The 2 orchestral pieces with a recording rather than performance (being part of composer workshops rather than concerts)
>Are you getting this read anywhere? Ideally one of the two local orchestras will play it once the thing is done (so rehearsals and performance), I have some established composer and conductor contacts who will hopefully give me an 'in' to emailing/meeting the right people about a performance.
>How long and with who did you study comp? 4 years at university, our composition professor is someone you've probably never heard of - this being New Zealand, but he's a well recognized composer with 30+ years of experience and performances, and multiple symphonies and operas under his belt (all of which have been performed / staged).
Henry Brown
>Its a Poly episode
Christopher Peterson
is Poly to /classical/ what Zyzz was to /fit/ or is that too nice of me
>what Zyzz was to /fit/ what exactly was that? and how does your pic fit in?
Jason Price
Not him but Ives had the means to get music performed and/or published. He was a successful business owner and just composed in his free time. He had the means to do whatever the fuck he wanted in music and not have to worry about getting a job or anyone liking it.
>books on music theory and composition, music history etc
I first thought your links were too good to be true. I can't express how much I appreciate these, particularly the Schoenberg books on theory. I've been listening to baroque a lot recently so I think I'll enjoy perusing the history book you have posted there, as well as Kim Cooper's one of ITAOTS.
I'm amassing a respectable collection, myself. I'll give back to the community before long. Here's a link to a piece from Vivaldi's opera Bajazet. It's basically the emperor of the Uzbek Turks, Tamerlane, singing an aria of his hate, fury and poison toward the treasonous cunts who've slighted him.
Should I start with Schoenberg to learn music composition?
I play the violin, but I'm an amateur. I understand almost nothing about chords, chord progression, Dorian scale, etc. But I know some things about composition (motive, phrase, variations, etc)
I was thinking of starting with this Fundamentals of Music Composition
Yes unfortunately. Glass isn't Avant Garde, he's regressive and poppy
Daniel Collins
of course.
Avant Garde just means ahead of the rest. There are avant garde composers in all periods of classical music.
Anything written by a trained composer (or at least partially trained), primarily stored in a written score and intended for performance in the concert hall is classical music. Doesn't matter how far ahead of its time it is.
Kevin Barnes
I listened to all of this in one sitting. A terrific waste of time.
Who's riding so late where winds blow wild It is the father grasping his child; He holds the boy embraced in his arm, He clasps him snugly, he keeps him warm.
"My son, why cover your face in such fear?" "You see the elf-king, father? He's near! The king of the elves with crown and train!" "My son, the mist is on the plain."
>'Sweet lad, o come and join me, do! >Such pretty games I will play with you; >On the shore gay flowers their color unfold, >My mother has many garments of gold.'
"My father, my father, and can you not hear The promise the elf-king breathes in my ear?" "Be calm, stay calm, my child, lie low: In withered leaves the night-winds blow."
>'Will you, sweet lad, come along with me? >My daughters shall care for you tenderly; >In the night my daughters their revelry keep, >They'll rock you and dance you and sing you to sleep.'
"My father, my father, o can you not trace The elf-king's daughters in that gloomy place?" "My son, my son, I see it clear How grey the ancient willows appear."
>'I love you, your comeliness charms me, my boy! >And if you're not willing, my force I'll employ.' "Now father, now father, he's seizing my arm. Elf-king has done me a cruel harm."
The father shudders, his ride is wild, In his arms he's holding the groaning child, Reaches the court with toil and dread. - The child he held in his arms was dead.
Jeremiah Long
nice video game music lol
Kevin Hill
hey /classical/ just listened to The Planets, anything else sound as sick as it?
The female vocals have a strange sensuality about them. I liked the violin/vocal solos, or recitatives, if they can even be called that.
Remember, in the late 20th century, computer sound effects were thought of as the way of the future. This technology was an instrument to be acknowledged.
If you're referring strictly to Classical-era forms, these were thrown to the wind. Largely thanks to Beethoven.
Asher Thomas
I like how the tenor in her voice switches from sweet to sour based on the words sung.
Sour Patch Kids - the song
Joseph Peterson
What are your favorite choir works /classical/?
Jaxson Johnson
Mahler symphonies, Bruckner Symphony No. 8 (4th movement). Stravinsky Rite of Spring
Owen Wood
Who is the best classical music artist?
For me its Hans Zimmer. Time is my favorite classical music
Colton Sanders
chopins song Nocturne in E-flat is my favourite classical song
Jason Collins
Hans Zimmer isn't really a classical music artist. He is a film composer - he doesn't write for the concert hall. Film composers are a specialist strain of composer that is not generally accepted to be a classical composer, although sometimes classical composers also write film scores, it almost never goes the other way around.
