Is it true that Ariel Pink is a hack?

>literally every musician steals.
Great musicians steal musical IDEAS. Bad musicians take lengthy clips of finished recordings of other people's music, pitch shift them slightly and overdub an extra instrumental track/vocal line here and there (thereby obfuscating most plagiarism detection algorithms on places like YouTube), and then present those tracks as their own original compositions.

Great artists steal musical IDEAS.
Good artists borrow music WITH attribution.
Bad artists "borrow" music WITHOUT attribution.

Ariel Pink is a bad artist.

December 28, 2017 - 01:50

Cooper Diaz

this

December 28, 2017 - 02:11

Jacob Powell

He's a fucking ugly Jew that ripped of John Maus.

December 28, 2017 - 02:11

Jason King

Lol this nigga copys this from pastebin every time some makes fun of clario or grimes.

December 28, 2017 - 02:13

Jace Ramirez

No, they're all stupid and retarded

December 28, 2017 - 02:18

Jayden Reyes

They've been collaborating since the late '90s. This is bait.

December 28, 2017 - 02:19

Dylan Garcia

Imagine being this retarded that you don't know what collabs are. I bet you think he stole I Can't Feel My Eyes too dont you?

December 28, 2017 - 02:20

Dominic Martinez

>Bad musicians take lengthy clips of finished recordings of other people's music, pitch shift them slightly and overdub an extra instrumental track/vocal line here and there (thereby obfuscating most plagiarism detection algorithms on places like YouTube), and then present those tracks as their own original compositions.
That isn't what he's doing though. I'm actually a musician with recordings and live experience and i talk to plenty of professionals and small artists. Taking similar chord structures and changing them while putting your own spin on them isnt stealing. Timings and compositions are different as are the tones and intended audiences which is something every artist does when he finds new music, he takes inspiration and if something sounds similar its almost always by accident unless its word by word a ripoff. Like comparing Sexual Athletics to NIB by Sabbath is a stupid comparison makes as they're completely different compositions in general with a couple similar timed power chords that arent even the same notes. Your grasping through a straw.

December 28, 2017 - 02:23

Nathaniel Wright

Ariel Pink is a meth-smoking plagiarist who preys on barely-legal girls

December 28, 2017 - 02:25

Cameron Phillips

but they are legal though.

December 28, 2017 - 02:27

Jason Ramirez

A man who's almost in his forties shouldn't be flirting to girls just out of high school

December 28, 2017 - 02:32

Angel Taylor

But I can write the same literally about any musician

December 28, 2017 - 02:35

Jordan Murphy

who dares wins

proof: his gf who guested on the last album looks like a photomodel and is indeed barely out of high school

December 28, 2017 - 02:41

Jordan Gomez

isn't that a good thing?
Wouldn't you want that if you were in your 40s?
besides its their choice to go to his shows.

December 28, 2017 - 02:47

Henry Smith

He steals from a lot of old songs. As long as he makes it sound new again though.

December 28, 2017 - 02:50

Colton Cruz

Nice

December 28, 2017 - 03:03

Connor Barnes

He's a fucking genius. Listen to his last album and give me a reason why he should be a hack? It's cool as fuck, well produced and original.

Only reason why he should be a hanck though is his live performances.

December 28, 2017 - 03:08

Owen Jenkins

his band is tight and he has an AAA singing voice

it's just that he's temperamental and possibly autistic, given his poor conversation skills

December 28, 2017 - 03:13

Nolan Richardson

>I'm actually a musician with recordings and live experience
As am I.

>Taking similar chord structures and changing them while putting your own spin on them isnt stealing.
That's DECONSTRUCTING a composition into it's component musical parts/ideas and building up something new and original of your own - ie exactly what I said GREAT artists do (because that is what they do.)
None of the examples in are examples of that. These are all examples of taking finished recordings of other people's music and making slight manipulations/additions to their musical content (NOT deconstructing anything - just adding to) WITHOUT attribution. Which is blatant plaigarism.

December 28, 2017 - 03:29

Anthony Foster

He made the same album twice in a row. What do you think?

December 28, 2017 - 03:35

Angel Rogers

What he's done with NIB is pretty cool tho. It's too fucking obvious to be called stealing.

December 28, 2017 - 04:36

Chase Gutierrez

Not an argument.

December 28, 2017 - 04:43

Kayden Perez

Cool, but what he does is he takes a little bit, melody or set of keys and throws it in a new context, new light, making pop music that is both familiar and experimental.
All Ariel fans know this and they like it. Giving examples of "stolen" songs is irrelevant, since most fans appreciate the callbacks and inspirations. It's similar with lampooning movies in TV shows - we all know it isn't 100% original, but we appreciate the trope being used in a new way.

December 28, 2017 - 04:57

Easton Cruz

Yes, because this came out before Pom Pom

December 28, 2017 - 04:57

Adam Lewis

>inb4 "b-but he's inspired by other musicians! that makes it okay when he makes a song that sounds exactly similar to another and makes it lo-fi!"

December 28, 2017 - 04:59

Elijah Smith

>haha i'll just write this inb4 thing here and completely destroy his argument
The point is that the songs aren't exactly similar. Time To Live has a Video Killed The Radio Star bit, yes, but that's only 30s from a 5 minute song that for the most part sounds completely different than Radio Star.
All of you mistake using one musical feature for copying the whole song.

December 28, 2017 - 05:03

Ryder Wilson

FF>> and Scared Famous? Yeah, and both are good.

December 28, 2017 - 05:06

Kevin Mitchell

Hey it’s that fag whose mother was fucked by Ariel again!

December 28, 2017 - 05:35

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