Mateen had legally purchased several guns in the days before the attack

>Mateen had legally purchased several guns in the days before the attack.

Freedom into overdrive

We couldn't handle that much freedom and America is too nice to handle it too

>literally walks in as a crazy fucking muzzie

>gimme guns

>lots of ammo too!

>glad I didnt say anything! I'm not a racist!

>0 waiting day check in florida

>bye

AMERICA

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>denying a man convicted of no crime his right to keep and bear arms
>trying to make the arbitrary and incompetent terrorist watch list as a good enough reason to ban someone from buying arms

Yeah nah fuck off, I'm not trading the 2nd amendment as an excuse to import more fucking shitskins

Too bad nobody in the club had guns of their own. If you don't exercise your rights this is what happens, you lose them.

If just one faggot in that club had a gun and knew how to use it, this would have been stopped before it reached double digit fatalities.

If everyone had a gun and knew how to use it, the sand nigger would have been killed almost immediately.

>Not denying a man who was vetted twice and made inflammatory remarks at work and beat his ex-wife wife repeatedly

What difference does it make?

Kill yourself pedo scum.

except for the armed on duity police officer at teh fornt door

Yeah he might as well have come to work with a bullseye on his fucking back.

I get your argument, but don't they purposely ban guns from places that serve alcohol? And you'd get searched before you enter a club for that purpose

He was abusive and could of been charged with domestic violence but the wife didn't want to do such a thing , also his ISIS sympathy cap should of gotten him barred for at least a while.

But let's blame our system of letting people without charges buy guns and not those who had the power to stop it like his fucking wife or the government.

>inflammatory
Wonder what someone would have to say...

I blame both

but if a muzzie goes mental here he basically just swings a kitchen knife around teh subway and gets tazered

its guns easy access fault that many people are dead. no matter how committed you are it's impossible to kill 50 people with a knife and he wouldve been shot dead by the guard at the door

Yes they do. It's just another example of unconstitutional gun laws that get people killed.

The terrorists at Bataclan killed almost three times as many people and purchased their military grade weapons ILLEGALY.

I was always anti-gun, but I start to realize what braindead robots spout the same shit over and over again and the gun side actually has an argument.

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Not really , crowded places are prime for knifes. Subway massacre that had why 30+ kills and injured with just a knife , also didn't stop the shootings in France when they got but hurt.

What a laughable nation America is.
A man who has been investigated by the FBI could walk into a walmart and buy a military style assault weapon and ammunition. Hopefully Hillary can fix some of the laws that allow these senseless attacks to happen. Drumpf certainly won't, in fact he is politicizing this event by blaming Islam to fan the flames of xenophobia which has kept his pathetic campaign afloat.
The blood is on the hands of homophobic, racist, sexist, right wing christian bigots who have spewed hateful rhetoric for years, real Americans know this and they will make the right choice in November.

Like I said, if everyone in the gay club were carrying and trained, mr sand nigger is dead as soon as he draws his weapon and fires one round.

nope in Arizona with a CCP you can carry in a bar as long as you aren't drinking but i'm not sure about orlando

>anecdotal evidence
you look at overall statistics of gun violence, fucktard, and they speak a very clear language.

lutsch mein Schwanz, du Opfer

:DD

but not the trained armed police officer at the door?

FBI looked into his shit, he should have been on a no-buy list.

No Criminal Record

No FBI worries added to background check

Government screws up

Blames 2nd Amendment

And Hillary uses this moment and Obama to blame trump for this happening or even ourselves. They are going to stand on their bodies to use it as momentum to ban guns while Trump uses it as a wake up call to fight home grown and international terrorism.

Thing is one fights for what is right and the other doesn't blame the victim and only guns.

so you're arguing that countries with much stricter gun laws should have MORE gun related fatalities because people couldn't defend themselves?
like... really?

Like I said, the trained police officer at the door should have just worn a target on his fucking face to work that night.

Look what happened in France just six months ago. And again just a few months before that.

so what our saying is armed police are unable to enforce law and protect the people?

then you dont need guns at all

You get searched when you enter a club, and it is illegal to carry in a bar.

Restricting guns stops 2 type of shooting

Acts of self defense

Also ones people would call acts of passion, where someone may grab a gun and shoot a family member in a rage
While banning of guns would stop the shooting, the victim would most likely be bludgeoned to death instead anyway

Banning guns will never stop someone who wants to commit a massacre and it will only embolden criminals who dont care about the fucking law in the first place

1. the risk of them shooting each other is too high
2. I doubt they could spot and kill him before he kills dozens of them
3. having a gun does not automatically mean you won't be killed
4. are you really defending that people should carry guns when they are drunk?

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What kind of fucking retard sold a gun to a sand nigger?

what's the story on the guard? this is the first I've heard of him. I vaguely recall reading that Omar exchanged gunfire with cops (off-duty?) outside before entering the club.

so did the guard live? what did he do, just call for backup?

Someone in his building called the police for suspicious shit he was heard doing years ago which prompted the FBI interviews in 2013 and 2014. It was shrugged off for political correctness.

>have shit tier security at a place where a despised group of people gather and get intoxicated
>Act shocked when an enemy of your nation and that despised group attacks
>Destroy the constitution and our means of protecting yourself for "safety"
>Expect the government that failed to protect citizens in every other mass shooting to protect you

Liberalism is a mental illness.

>so what our saying is armed police are unable to enforce law and protect the people?
If they are unable to protect you, it shows that the citizens need guns more than ever

I'm saying that a lone police office or two will not be able to stop a deranged gun man every single time. But a room full of normal people who are carrying will always be able to stop a gun man.

then look what happened in america

noone is safe

the only difference is IF yanks decide to get a group of 4 trained guys together with vests on they will easily break frances record

ONE MAN with zero training killed half as many as a well organized group of military terrorist cell ON A WHIM

if any muzzies actually TRY a paris style attack in america there will hundreds of deaths

You realize those guys were quarantined, raped to death in a Baathist dungeon if they ever spoke out like that? It wasn't until our leaders started sucking Saudi cock and bombing secular eastern countries that we got the brown tide and mass extremism.

you cannot carry in florida at an establishment that makes more than half of its revenue on alcohol

and if you go to a restaurant that serves alcohol, it's illegal for you to carry and drink, for obvious reasons.

>What kind of fucking retard sold a gun to a sand nigger?

he was born in america and also had a security guard license. with no criminal background there's no way to deny him without discrimination and that's against the law.

anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. please cite actual studies that support a correlation of the sort
>more gun control implies more gun-related fatalities

inb4 you can't because the idea is batshit crazy

>bought from Wal-Mart

Strawman arguments. Trained individuals would not shoot each other. I'm pretty sure it would be easy to spot the shooter. And yes I am.

Maybe hes saying when theres only a single threat to a gunman whos easily identified, that person will die first

Armed guy on the door wont stop shit and everyone else is disarmed apart from killer

UNLESS THERE ARE ARMED AMERICANS WHERE THE MUZZIES TRY TO SHOOT.

im saying being well trained and armed didnt protect you

thats what happened. a trained and armed gun carrying officer didnt stop one man so why would some fat fucking snaggle toothed yokel?

guns created the problem and they couldnt solve it without acceptable loss of life

its not worth it

[citation needed]

Someone should have told Mr. Mateen that

I really don't care that much. Post a study showing the opposite.

>Retard
>Florida

So, you up North?

>Banning guns will never stop someone who wants to commit a massacre

works in every other country 99% of the time

imagine how guilty that owner feels now


bet the fbi were at his house teh next day

He was in uniform and probably the first person executed dumbass

Except when armed terrorists killed hundreds of people in France

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Damn gun store owner selling it to this guy, I mean the FBI not putting him on a no buy list... But curse them if they invade our privacy, a nation who sacrifices privacy for a little security deserves neither amirite. Except the Muslims, ban Muslims, oh he was born here. Shit I'm running out of arguments

>what's the story on the guard?


ok, found it: According to Orlando Sentinel reporter Christal Hayes, there was a local police officer working as a security guard at Pulse. The officer and the suspect exchanged gunfire before the suspect barricaded himself inside the club.

there was a fully on duty armed and uniformed officer running protection at the club

sand nigger just shot at him so he took cover. sand nigger ran insid and started killing everyone and officer called for back up

police left him in the building alone for 3 hours to do as he pleased

>police
>well trained
The police in the US cant hit the broad side of a barn.
Most people that I know that carry daily are pretty proficient in their marksmanship as compared to police officers.

Also, it is kind of hard when the gunman runs up to you and blows you away because he sees a uniformed officer with a gun on his hip.

>you can count on the police to protect you

That's fucking it. I'm carrying 24/7 every single place I go. Gun laws can suck my beautiful white cock.

That's the point I'm trying to make. It's a retarded fucking law/procedure.

>police left him in the building alone for 3 hours to do as he pleased

that's a long time. I haven't seen a timeline yet; did he kill people the whole time, or what?

like an armed policeofficer at every club?

What happened in your subway in 2005 again?

except when armed terrorits killed dozens of people in america

also 9/11

>I mean the FBI not putting him on a no buy list.
You cannot put people on a no buy list without due process
>oh he was born here
He's a first generation afghani immigrant. his parents moved here.

>Damn gun store owner selling it to this guy,

maybe if you had better gun control laws he would have AT LEAST HAD TO WAIT A DAY

>0 waiting day in florida

you played yourself america

Reminder that they want to take away your guns so they can strip you of other rights and import more of these people.

>Already on multiple FBI watchlists
>Reported by several people as unstable and dangerous
>FBI be all like "nah senpai we gots to waste time busting weed dealers"

>People on the terror watch list can still buy guns in the US

SHALL

>AT LEAST HAD TO WAIT A DAY
so he could do it the next day, great plan

How would a waiting period have stopped this?

3 day cooldown period without concealed carry permit

just another compromise law abiding gun owners deal with while muzzies and criminals run rampant

>people on the hate crime list can still post on a mongolian weaving forum
A

>Waiting periods stop mass shootings

I highly doubt the mentally unstable muslim would reconsiders shooting up a club full of kuffirs just because he had to wait 48 hours to pick up his rifle

Yet another way PC is winning.

I think every terrorist in the west has been on some watchlist or known to authorities

They just never do shit about it, they like to keep watching as their priority is to collect data, not stop attacks

nah he was a sleazy fucking roach

he killed everyone at teh begginning by spraying into the crowd then when real armed enforcement showed up minutes later he claimed he had hostages and they let him sit there for 3 hours

when texts got out from inside about him still killing them inside the swat went in


bataclan 2.0

the entire argument is that without access to such weapons he would NEVEr have able to kill so many n such a short time. the 50 were already dead when swat showed up pretty much

swat dont stay outside in a hostage situation if they hear gunshots

they moved in after 3 hours because he started shooting again

FUCKING

So you don't think shootings of different kinds and terrorist attacks would be even more common Europe if it was easier to get weapons legally?

The fact that they DO happen in Europe really doesnt say much. I dont think anyone has ever said that banning guns would make an area 100% safe, but it would probably make it safer atleast.

he was on a terrorist watch list for fuck's sake

does the FBI even do anything these days?

yeah all those people in our modern world that were supposed to have crystal balls to forsee this just dropped the ball

What happening in usa in

2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016 again?

>armed police are unable to enforce law and protect the people?

That is exactly a reason we need guns

>Probably

Wrong. Continue to spew on something you know nothing about.

Go ahead and ban them, come and take them. there is a gun for every man, woman, and child in the US. It will be like trying to confiscate every grain of sand on a beach.

i wouldnt give a shit if a muslim went around killing white people next week.

I dont want any fucking laws preventing anyone from purchasing guns. its the only fucking business that America has left that cant be exported.

shiiiit even death makes money.

SELECT FIRE FIREARM WITH A REMOVABLE MAGAZINE, ABLE TO FIRE AN INTERMEDIATE CARTRIDGE

>I dont think anyone has ever said that banning guns would make an area 100% safe, but it would probably make it safer atleast.

Literally the exact opposite is true. When you ban guns, armed assault and murder goes up since criminals are above the law.
All banning guns does is disarm the law abiding citizens

What's the waiting period on a butter knife over there?

Yeah, we really need more extrajudicial ways to abridge rights.

>Regulating access to guns is somewhat devpriving a man of his freedom
Oh America, never change

Remind me, what crime had he committed prior?

Eat shit, commie.