Who was in the wrong here?

Who was in the wrong here?

No seriously

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Hitler for being delusional, and people for following the madman who killed 6 million Jews

Hitler. He should have pulled his panzers back to Berlin, dug in and made any assault by the Allies a dangerous prospect. USSR wouldn't have cared, but he'd have raped them enough to make him feel better for killing Gommies :DD

Hitlix0r. Worse strategist ever.

Steiner . . .

Not really Unternehmen Wacht am Rhein(Ardennes Offensive) was in fact very clever plan, had it not been for the yanks at Bastogne the Western Allies would be running home back to the UK

But Hitler didn't even know that Steiner's force had been disbanded, surely his generals should have told him that?

Hitler was a methhead at this point. He would start raging if his generals said anything he didn't like.

Well it couldn't be Hitler because he did literally nothing wrong

Hitler. You've got to be fucking stupid to attack Russians after you've already waged war on the rest of the world.

The International Jew for waging war on the Aryan people.

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Stay in the room . . .

if hitler had been killed early on in the war germany wouldnt have lost

>6 goriilion
((((((((you)))))))

he should've withdrawn to the Alps and made his last stand there

Hitler's cabinet. Hitler himself was a complete loon, but those guy were supposed to be educated military officers and they still believed in his plan of "we'll go everywhere and win everything because we're great". Poland was pretty much the only place they actually took over as they planned. France may have surrendered, but they continued guerilla operations and supported American and British troops being sent there; African corp was a travesty start to finish and basically didn't do shit other than waste German resources; Britain despite being bombed managed to mount heavy aerial and navy resistance; Americans were barely scratched by Japanese because China took on most of those anime-loving faggots(and unfortunately paid heavily for it) so they could easily continue material support of Europe. And then despite haven't yet reached any decisive victory on any of the available fronts they went on and attacked angry drunken communists, forgetting that the only advantage of communism is quick and focused resource distribution, letting them build their own war machines at the rate of fucking bunnies from the ground up.
Not to mention arrogant expectancy to blitzkrieg it and then terrible logistics chain for their infamous winter that already destroyed Napoleon's grand armee for exactly the same mistake.

Really Nazis were just a bunch of retards.

pink: Allies

red: contested

white: Germany

>german """master race"""

Adolf
He was literally Hitler

What did you mean by this

>questioning the power of das 4th reichiphate

>starts an unwinnable war
>gets utterly BTFO
>rage quits
really makes you think....why do people idolize this guy again?

Places for Hitler to flee to.

Could have went to Norway.

hitler would've conquered russia if it wasn't for the winter.

>Go to War with Russia when there was a time they were comrades against the Jewish capitalist plutocracy.

Goddamn you Goebbels for driving Hitler into paranoia.

>unwinnable
if he hadn't waged war on russia and didn't talk shit on the US then he would've conquered europe.

Everyone. They were all nazis and deserved to be killed.

War against the Soviets was an inevitability. It was the war he wanted. The War he didn't plan for was one against the West.

>allying with fucking Bolsheviks
That shit was never going to last.

>when bae shows u the gas bill

yes, the invasion of russia was the main impetus behind my post

and? it was still retarded to attack russia while he was dealing with britain.

is he ok

>had it not been for the yanks at Bastogne the Western Allies would be running home back to the UK
Not really.

if not for the blunders that were kursk and stalingrad, they could have decapitated the soviets and taken their oil

he's dead

yeah exactly. perhaps in time he could have made the western powers less pissed at him and turned them against the USSR

was there a specific reason to invade in 1941? why the urgency? especially against someone who is not hostile against you

he'll be fine

and the fact that his soldiers were ill-prepared for the russian winter. it was retarded to assume that it wouldn't affect them.

and we already had historical evidence of what could go wrong, yet they didn't seem to care *at all*.

they were at the outskirts of moscow, hitler changing his mind every 5 mins fucked the russian offensive, not the winter

>was there a specific reason to invade in 1941? why the urgency? especially against someone who is not hostile against you
he was getting cocky.

>fleeing

same level cowardice as suicide

Soviets were building up their own army after realizing that Hitler was fucking insane and attacking countries for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

If they'd waited any longer, it would have been a long and brutal war with near certainty. What's less certain is who would have won.

Hitler decided to attack in 1941 based on faulty intel and Mussolini being a fucktard pushed the date forward. This is why the 'hurr he invaded Russia in LE WINTER xD' meme infuriates me, because it invaded it IN THE SUMMER and FULLY INTENDED to invade it in the SPRING.

see, if that's it, than he was a dumbass.
he probably could've used more oil, and that's why the caucasus was attractive, but was lebensraum really needed so urgently

He was surrounded by "yes"-men, who couldnt see past his identity cult status.

Essentially it was over and he insisted on some delusional counter offensive of 100k soldiers, against the total onslaught of 3 million Soviet soldiers.

Literally cognitive dissonance on Hitler's part.

t.commie

>you'll never be in a spanish band of falangist soldiers killing inbred anarchists

he was paranoid that stalin was plotting to invade, even though his intelligence services correctly told him he wasnt and that the soviets were in no state to launch an offensive, so he planned a pre emptive strike regardless

I was once in a literal synagogue for a high jewish wedding and inside there was a plaque commemorating "the six million". My inner monologue went: "so fuck the gypsies, the priests, the homosexuals then. Iiiii see how it is..."

Tbh this was actually pretty smart. Best to attack an enemy when they're weak.

Again, Mussolini being an idiot pushed the offensive forward too far.

Goering: "We can totally destroy the forces at Dunkirk with just the luftwaffe. Oh, and we can supply Stalingrad by air indefinitely."

Why did Hitler listen to this fat fuck?

>Tbh this was actually pretty smart. Best to attack an enemy when they're weak.

Yeah, start a war with a new enemy when you're already fighting on numerous fronts.

georing, along with a few other nazis, was very intelligent but a bit crazy

Germans aren't humans lad

>Germany thought they could win a war against the British Empire, the United States and the Soviet Union AT THE SAME TIME

It was a massive gamble for sure, but every one he'd made by that point paid off.

And you're fucking delusional if you don't think the Soviets would have been Germany's biggest enemy long-term. Hitler was just (trying) to beat them to the punch.

First time is understandable. Second time yeah, he was being a fucking idiot and should have stripped him of his command.

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Insidious. Petty. Presumptuous. Cowardly.

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You, for wasting our time with this fucking thread.

Enternal Teuton

>invents Protestantism
>half of Europe dead in the bloody 30 years war

>invents communism
>half of the planet enslaved, brainwashed and abused, millions more dead

>starts WW1
>half of Europe destroyed and millions dead

>invents national socialism
>half of Europe destroyed again, failed to wipe out entire races

DEALTE THIS

>germany
>starts WW1

Hitler

Probably one of the biggest morons and worst generals in history

Hitler. His entire plan was full retard. And there is almost not What If version of events where WW2 doesnt end with Russia zerg-rushing him.
He also could have won if he had a magic ray that turned communists into gumdrops. If only he could have foreseen one of the four seasons that come every year since the dawn of mankind.

>He shares half a haplotype with us. Pure blooded German king.
And so Germany went to war.

Daily reminder.

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>it's a hitler wants a fighter-bomber instead of making it either a bomber or fighter which severly delays production episode

>if Germans didn't exist, WWI and II wouldn't have happened
>racism, nationalism, white pride, eugenics, imperialism and colonialism would still be alive
Fuck the Germans

gonna get a nuke up their ass no mater what Hitler does

>no mention of Austrian "Economics"

More to the point he was expecting to take it over in three months, not fight it for four years.

Eh I'm sure they don't mean to get raped and bombed. It's not like they're asking for it. There has to be at least a few dozen refugees that aren't raging bullheaded ideological "freedom fighters"

This is what Britcucks actually believe.

Yeah the great britcucks and the french surrender monkeys would push back the best units of the SS and the heer
give me a fucking break


Monty was fucking garbage and got curb stomped at Arnhem

Ya know. I get the whole Nazis are evil thing, I even agree with it . But I just think about if those remains had an allied emblem on it and I get a little sad/mad. And I start to wonder what that specific person was fighting for, why they fought, and why they died. I stop giving a shit about all that ideology crap and all I think about is how scared this poor bastard was. How he was just trying not to die, to get out of this battle and go back to his family. He didn't get that. He just died and his friends died and worse yet it was for nothing, his country lost another war. Not being a meme man but it really makes me think.

Paton is meme general

I can't be the only one

>tfw you aren't german or have any german ancestry
almost as bad as being a manlet

Better be a meme than a fucking piece of shit like Monty

>Western Allies
Lol, what a joke. May as well say "the Americans", because British, Dutch, Canadians, etc. did jackshit after the Normandy landings.
>Ohhh, b-but us Canadians were sent to free teh Netherlands
Lmao, big fucking deal. How many Germans were there, 10,000? 20,000? How many did actually put up a fight?

Let's be honest. Victory in North Africa belongs to the British, victory in Western Europe belongs to America.

But the ones that actually defeated Nazi Germany were the Russians.

Patton was about as nationalistic as SS officers, just for his own country.

he was an absolute clown of a strategist with almost no concept of logistics just like Rommel

It doesn't matter. He was a citizen of a hostile country that declared war on most of Europe and America and started a genocidal campaign across the continent. That person may not have been directly responsible for the death of anyone, but he was an enemy. And strategic bombing spares no one.

Yeah but he had balls of steel unlike Monty.

It's the Wessie's fault, Ossie were the last true German state.

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>he doesn't know Hitler escaped in a submarine to his Antarctic base and moved from there inside the hollow earth

Read a book for once you fucking barbarian

Patton was a douche; a gloryhound and a pretentious prick.
His unwarranted obsession with pushing into Bavaria instead of going north through Westphalia was a disaster, and he consistently insisted on fucking over Montgomery every time he had the chance for no good reason whatsoever; resulting in further losses of time and ressources.

Remind me, which side did Merkel and her family move to willingly again and joined a youth party there?

Yeah I know, again I'm with the whole they're the enemy thing. I just have a problem with trying to get into the heads of dead people.

Well it sure as hell was not the Ossie's who invited a bunch of Turks and other filth into the country already by the 50-60s. It was you Wessie's

Honecker was right about everything reunification and perestroika was a joke.

Wessie cucks and their negro masters


NVA>>>Bundeswehr

>implying I am kraut
>implying both sides aren't responsible for this mess
Too bad none of those "greek" turks like pic related want to move there and instead you get this:

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>mfw Prussia doesn't even exist anymore

Germans got cucked so hard

>tfw you hate krauts but you hate other people more so you unify them only to have Wilhelm II the kraut ruin everything

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yeah seems real smart, especially considering that at that point the allies had total air superiority and could just bomb any stationary target they wanted

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hitler was right

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>Hitler is regarded as a hero by white nationalists
>He killed 30 million white people and planned to kill many times that amount if he won

Really snogs your noggin