Boris Papandopulo youtu.be/nD9AaSlIZUs I should start shilling here for the composers from my country. That would be pretty patriotic, don't you think?
I sounded like this when I grabbed my first violin
Isaac Edwards
>“So You Can Please” – For four percussionists, 35 dildos/vibrators/etc, and text material based on headlines from articles in online women’s magazines and anonymous confessions from whisper.
You can tell it is composed. It's just like Trout Mask Replica.
Aiden Carter
Holy kek I didn't know about this. I wonder how those nu-males were willing to perform her work...
Xavier Barnes
lmao
Owen Bell
no homo boys but what techniques exactly separate romantic from classical
is it really just "epic dynamics"?
Samuel Jenkins
dude fuck yeah
Communist China produced some interesting music as well, not exactly high art but certainly along the lines of Aaron Copland/Leonard Bernstein youtube.com/watch?v=jQMKiwk7J0s
Lincoln Long
someone should redo this but use tendies and cum socks as instruments as screencaps from /r9k/ flash by
Justin Jenkins
Larger emphasis on experimentalism, essentially just breaking away from Classicism, for one.
Take the first song off of Schumann's Dichterliebe for an example youtube.com/watch?v=L-Nkm8cBLgE >first four bars oscillate between Bm6 and C#7 which implies a iv6-V7-i cadence in F#m that never comes >the piano figurations actually make it seem like Bm6 "resolves" into C#7, which is a Classically dissonant chord >no F#m tonic ever comes, the only cadences are in A major >the piece ends on an unresolved C#7, which would only be considered in the 18th century if the next movement starts "attacca" in the key of the resolution >still no F#, next song is in A major
Charles Myers
Not him but I'm basically incapable of reading a book on any internet capable device. Most of the time I leave the house without my phone to read.
Nolan Green
Honestly its not especially bad at this point, depending on what you do with it. However its also incredibly worthless posting this kind of musical minutia. Finish a whole piece and then post it and ask what we think.
Noah Turner
oh hey i love thom yorke
Hunter Evans
Seems like a copout to say "muh experimentation" because a lot of new stuff happened in the modernist period, that while being experimental, isn't especially romantic.
Jaxson Campbell
Not really. Modernism as a whole has a higher degree of experimentation, but that doesn't make Romantic experimentation any less valid. You'll find that many modernist composers (namely Schoenberg, Scriabin) composed in a Romantic medium as well and/or viewed their compositions most would consider to be "modernist" as an extension of Wagner and Liszt (e.g. Schoenberg's atonality). In any case, "epic dynamics" isn't any less of a cop-out either because you'll find many 20th century pieces with a large dynamic range, perhaps even larger.
Christopher Green
I'm not saying you're wrong but it doesn't seem to get to the heart of what makes romantic music romantic. And I'm not that guy.
Ryan Gonzalez
I had a chick at my uni actually get a vibrator stuck in a piano from a piece she was writing. She had to get one of piano teacher's help to get it out. imo that piece was generally okay - the texts' meanings sometimes didn't match up and it would've been nice if throughout the course of the piece they were organised in a more narrative-esque way. I wonder if you could write a piece with sample pads and triggers playing cropped porn sounds or something to that effect.
Jordan Harris
Well, I'll try to keep developing it
Jayden Robinson
t. Poly
Lucas Edwards
Well he did ask for techniques. I'm not particularly comfortable with explaining Romantic ideology and how it pertains to music as its a bit nebulous so I didn't. I still think experimentation with the Classical framework (and ending up outside of it) is a good representation of the techniques of Romantic music, though you're right that modernists did it "more."
Henry Gonzalez
>I wonder if you could write a piece with sample pads and triggers playing cropped porn sounds or something to that effect. this ain't /classical/ but venetian snares has an album consisting of sampled sounds of him having sex (nymphomatriarch)
If I had to venture a guess, I would say that romanticism is characterized by techniques that explicitly manipulate the emotional contour of music. At the micro-level this means things like increasing tension by suspending the harmonic progression where it would traditionally be expected to resolve. Also adding virtuistic elements to make a more impressive spectacle out of the performance of a work. Also decorating the music with liberal chromaticisms to create a stormy and fevered effect. By contrast I'd say the experiments of the modernist period are more about intellectual curiosities and experiment for its own sake.
Would it be fair to call Brahms the first neoclassical composer?
Jayden Jackson
t. Joao
Xavier Reed
"The most embarrassing moment of my life was when I accidentally mooed during sex." >accidentally
Angel Kelly
I'm not against people using /classical/ as /comp/ because it just makes sense that this is where you would ask for composition advice. But posting tiny clyps like this is something of an abuse. Actually put some effort in and at least bring us back a motivic sketch of some kind, if not an entire movement. And please for the love of God stop using that lame book excuse.
Aaron Gomez
3rd most underrated, after Mozart and Liszt. Been listening to Bairstow's "Let all mortal flesh" a lot recently. I'm of the opinion that most of what he wrote is trash unworthy of performance, but this piece is a real standout. Also re-remebering how outstanding Finzi is
Angel Reyes
SO BRAVE
Elijah Sullivan
>Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Brahms and Ockeghem were all North African
Why are all the best composers black?
Grayson Rodriguez
The fucking state of white people
Robert Reed
Blach stole all his compositions from the superior white man, Petzold
Logan Cruz
>"Music, even in situations of the greatest horror, should never be painful to the ear but should flatter and charm it, and thereby always remain music." postmodern 'music'
Nicholas Lopez
mozart also said scat was good, so when are you gonna take up eating poop
Carter Smith
>he agrees with Mozart on one issue >he must agree with Mozart on all issues also I'm pretty sure he thought scatplay was merely humorous, not something he practiced
Kayden Kelly
>I'm pretty sure he thought scatplay was merely humorous, not something he practiced
Carter Harris
yeah I guess he saved the incest for his personal relationships instead
Angel Rogers
if someone says they like classical, how do I find out if they are a pseud or a patrician without seeming rude?
Austin Lee
Ask him about any composer that isn't part of the major canon, and also his thoughts on his favorite works. Not hard.
Brayden Price
which composers are in the line between main canon and obscure? are prokofiev, scriabin and faure the sort i should be asking about, or shit like michael haydn, leopold mozart and christian petzold?
Nathan Stewart
been compulsively jerking to a porno girl that looks like my grandmum (well what she used to look like). Music for this feel?
Robert Watson
Scriabin is definitely a solid c lister. Faure has a few pops and that easy listening appeal normies go for. Prokofiev is A-list, not obscure at all. I think composers with reputations like CPE Bach, Schumann, Bruckner where they don't have any real pops (something you might hear in an advertisement) but are still highly regarded and for good reason are in the sweet zone.
Oliver Ortiz
act 3 of Siegfried
Tyler Brooks
wew, back to facebook with you
Carter Davis
what did I do?
Cameron Garcia
>Schumann >no "pops" fucking faggot
Hunter Evans
I started taking violin classes around July of last year, and my teacher tasked me with getting used to hold the violin lightly. Everytime I play, I grip it with all my might, and it makes my bow harder, my fingers lock and basically fucks up my playing. I have tried NOT doing that, but GOD it's hard. I literally can't play unless I have a good, strong grip. I tried holding it with only my fingers (same way my teacher does) since it supposedly makes you unable to grip it. Well, now my fingers are even more rigid. I don't know what to do. Is there some sort of technique I'm unaware of?
Lucas Johnson
okay I'm stretching the definition. Obviously Schumann has pops but what is a Schumann piece you frequently hear outside of a classical radio station? And I don't see the problem, its not as though popularity is any valid measurement of aesthetic value.
Logan Johnson
I think Haydn is a good one. If you tackle someone with composers like Ravel, Borodin, Leonhardt, you are simply stupid and the pseud here is you. Haydn is pretty well known, but not for the common pleb who only listens to Mozart, Beethoven (symphonies), Chopin and maybe a little bit of Bach.
>what music do you like? >i really like classical :) teehee >well, sing 10 of haydn's works all the way through and name 600 of his works! def not rude
Are you autistic >1: I like classical >2: Well that's nice, I like classical too! You wouldn't know Haydn by any chance would you? >1: No, I don't know him >2: Ah well, he's pretty unknown, it's just that he's one of my favorites
Andrew James
If you mean Joseph Haydn. He's not obscure at all. He wrote the damn German national anthem. And I don't think there's any particular reason to familiarize oneself with Michael Haydn over any number of other composers from that time such as Cherubini. Just because he is Haydn's brother? Who cares. Its like going out of your way to listen to Salieri just because he's in Amadeus. Those are pleb reasons to investigate composers.
Jeremiah Thompson
Oh the performer. I thought this was some composer you were talking about because Leonhardt is a pretty common name. But I don't really know performers. Actually I am so autismo I kind of prefer midi to real concerts.
