Call Rey a mary sue

>Call Rey a mary sue
>completely ignore the fact that Luke was an even bigger mary sue

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He isn't a Mary Sue you're just a waifufag

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It's like you never even watched A New Hope.

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Ummm neo nazis are trying to boycott Star Wars and you are worried about Mary Sue?! Fix this!

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What a beautiful specimen of the white woman

>wants to start a shitpost thread
>bust out the old Luke was a bigger mary sue meme

You can't realign this opinion. Just let it go and let the next movie speak for itself.

Also dont forget how he gets 100% reked by vader on empire. And unlike rei he had fucking training.

The only things he can do decently in the first 2 movies is to fly sort decently and shoot random mooks with the ship.

Luke also needed Obi Wan to save him in the cantina

Luke was stubborn and willful and didn't pay attention to Yoda. It cost him his hand.

Doesn't make Star Wars 7 still bad tho
I didn't like Luke when I was a kid. He was stupid, whiny, and incompetent. But now that I am an adult, I pretty much adore him. You fags feel the same?

that alone, no. But the movie sucks because of that and many other elements.

I really, unironically, like ep 7. A lot. It's better than what I expected, and I had my hopes up like a naive kid.

rey definitely is a mary sue, but let's not forget that anakin build an android with consciousness as a kid

Vader would've killed Luke if he wasn't his seed in both Empire and Return of the Jedi

but he wasn't
there's a checklist for this kind of thing, it's not subjective

He wasn't
Even if he had similar attributes he still wouldn't be because Lucas wrote New Hope
A Mary Sue is a self insert into fan fiction. Even though it's officially licensed any stars wars not written by or supervised by Lucas is basically fan fiction

many of my friends criticised my criticism. now time passed, and they start to admit that the more look at it or think about it, the more I am right.

You will see. It will be a cold shower for many.

no
self insert is called a self insert.

movie for kids

>going into deep character and plot analysis

FUCKING SPERGS

Disney defense force BTFO again

Rey isn't a Mary Sue, but she is overpowered relative to Luke and Anakin in their first movies. She's where Luke was at the end if ESB.

She never fucks up, is instantly liked by everybody. Even the bad guys are impressed with her immediately.

To be perfectly fair, the biggest box on that checklist is "blatant authorial self-insert," and luke(as) skywalker hits that box a fuck of a lot harder than rei

A self insert plus being perfect is a Mary Sue

>Call Rey a Mary Sue
>Dude Kyle Katarn was the best character ever. WTF? Why did Disney retcon him?

This happens FAR too often

>comparing a video game player character to a movie character

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Anakin was literally the son of god and he still wasn't as much of a mary sue as Rey.

Its the only thing disney shills have, also they use that same picture a lot too.

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whats really scary is the idea that disney researched the most popular EU character to build the new character around, hit katarn, and think, "yea, a video game protagonist that exists only to reflect the ability of the player seems perfect for our static narrative."

Character development is a social construct perpetuated by straight white males to keep strong female characters out of story. The way Rey is written is a breadth of fresh air in a overtly sexist industry

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better one.

Childhood is idolizing Han Solo
Adulthood is realizing Luke as a better character all along

Hmm, really makes me think.

>luke
>mary sue

His arc is literally the Hero's Journey. He isn't a Mary Sue. Rey's arc is people show up at a place, other people show and start shooting, some of the characters escape to another place, rinse and repeat for another 2 hours.

Rey doesn't even choose to go on the adventure. Her first choice is to flee to avoiding getting shot by storm troopers. And then when she finally decideds that she might not have to go back home immediately she is kidnapped. She has almost no agency in this film. She's barely the main character. This might be the worst written Star Wars movie ever penned. Although Disney hasn't farted out any of the stand alone movies yet.

>I didn't like Luke when I was a kid. He was stupid, whiny, and incompetent. But now that I am an adult, I pretty much adore him. You fags feel the same?
maybe you were similar to him, and deep down knew it but didn't want to admit it to yourself?

She just needs a mixed baby inside her and she'd be perfect.

Replace she with he and this sounds like pod racing.

>what is the hero's journey

They call me Rei and im of the sand

>this same exact thread AGAIN
at least wait a week or two before posting the same exact thread or change up the OP so its not as obvious

At least Luke had to train for three movies to be able to do a Jedi mind trick instead of being able to do it instantly with no training.

No son, they're just tired of talking/hearing about it so they acquiesce to get you to shut the fuck up.

> luke's arc covers 3 movies
> rey has only appeared in one
> somehow this makes her the worse written character

And that movie is shit too.

>implying luke isnt a better character after 1 move than rey

>rey is introduced in the exact same environment as luke
>except she's speshul!!!
>already as strong as luke was at the end of the 2nd movie, without having any proper training
>already knows more than han about the millennium falcon
>almost no explanation as to why she is who she is
>even if she is related to luke, palpatine, whoever... it doesn't explain why she's as strong as she is without proper training
>somehow in your perspective this makes her as well written as luke

She's already significantly more boring. Kylo Ren feels like more of a fucking protag than her. At least he has flaws and a clear place to grow. At this point he's the underdog while Rey is the level 100 boss.

I couldn't even finish the movie. It's not just what she does it's how ham-fisted it is.

>"saves" a droid with no explanation why the guy who found it didn't have the right to take it

>LOOK she works all day for 1/4 of a meal

>LOOK i'll offer you this pile of food for the droid

>Throws herself on the pile of food. I could eat at last, but.... THIS IS BENEATH ME

>goes on to fight out-numbered with no visual drawbacks of her supposed malnutrition

I dont remember Luke beating Darth Vader in "A new hope".

Except the Jedi Council wants nothing to do with Anakin even though they recognize his potential. Even at the end of the movie, Obi-Wan trains him ONLY because it was literally Qui-Gon's dying wish.

>Out of pre-existing parts of an android with consciousness

Tip top bait. Guaranteed 300 replies.

>Luke is completely new to the force and lightsaber fighting
>Trains a few weeks with yoda
>Beats the two strongest siths every by himself
really makes me think...

sitty bait, have a pity (you)

She did complain that she used to get a bigger share for the equivalent junk, so the reduction could be very recent, or even the first occurrence.

He re-assembled a Goldenrod(tm) model from several broken ones, pushed the reset button, and boom. C-3P0

Alternatively, he built a completely new design all by himself, programmed it with 6 million intercultural protocols and 6 million languages, and decided later around age 10 he was going to put them into mass production somewhere between episodes 1 and 2, while training as a Jedi.

>guaranteed 300 replies
>only 55 replies
fail

delete this. NOW

I like the alternative theory.

What did she mean by this?

Rey is hot so I'll let it pass.

Thank fuck she doesn't look like that anymore.

being behind thick plot armor=/= being a Mary Sue

i want to eat her ass

>Rey is hot