Which of the following, if accomplished last year, would have prevented the mass killing

1. Building a wall between the US and Mexico

2. Banning the entry of all Muslim immigrants

3. Banning firearms


The answer is #3. Only a comprehensive ban of firearms would have prevented this attack and so many others.

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Good double

The Orlando shooter was a self-loading gay man who frequented the club he shot up.

Kind of a shitty Muslim if you ask me.

4. shitposting this thread again

>OP is more retarted than the conservatives he rails against
>OP didn't bother to read that Omar was fully licensed and vetted to use an assault rifle
>OP has shown today that liberals only virtue signal and never seek out actual emperical evidence.
Well done, OP. Well done.

Who would want to stop it?

Reminder to hide and sage shill threads.

This guy worked a security job and would have had to obtain special clearance to own a firearm no matter how much legislation was passed against you and me.

It is not possible for citizens to mount a remotely successful armed campaign against either SWAT forces or the military under any conditions The "defense against an oppressive government" excuse for being armed hasn't been relevant in over 100 years. The chances of an armed citizens rebellion against military forces 2016 is exactly ZERO.

If the government wants your weapons, they'll take them. If they want to kill you, they will. You have zero chance. Nada.

Anyway, as I have said numerous times, there is no possibility that there will ever be a president Trump. The CIA will certainly have him killed if he appears to close to ever achieving this. The danger of Trump isn't that he'll become Hitler (I have no worries about this at all) but because of his dangerous levels of incompetence and inexperience.

>if accomplished last year
>"CONFORM YOUR ARGUMENT TO MY ARBITRARY CONDITIONS. OH YOU CAN'T? LOOKS LIKE I WIN AGAIN."

Well yeah what would a country with fewer mass shootings in the last few decades than the US has had in the last few months (weeks?) have to contribute to a debate around mass shootings?

>Only a comprehensive ban of firearms would have prevented this attack
>Criminals obey laws
Every time.

What's even crazier is that you fuckwits understand how supply/demand/and black markets work PERFECTLY when it comes to your precious Cannabis.

>OP ignores the fact that Omar was fully vetted and background checked.
>OP is still holding to a failing narrative.
>OP thinks government fixes everything.

If all guns were made illegal and a minimum 10 year prison sentence was attached, that would effectively be the end of them.

Well, after an immediate, aggressive campaign by the feds to seize the existing arms. With the resisting gun owners safely behind bars or killed in the resistance, the country would be capable of moving forward with a more progressive agenda - the voting impediments to which over the last 25+ years being either in prison or dead.

Guns can certainly be banned.

And what about your "outside the box ideas" that you were proud of yesterday? A comprehensive ban on guns has never been tried. How do we *know* it won't work?! Or is it that you only support outside the box thinking when it applies to putting people in charge of things that they have no skills or experience to adequately do?

>Implying

Live free, or die. There isn't any alternative. However successful I may be is irrelevant.

If he drew a stereotype caricature of Jew or negroe he'd be in jail

>Not give the fags guns

I have a better option

4. Sending all muslims back to their shithole

> the country would be capable of moving forward with a more progressive agenda - the voting impediments to which over the last 25+ years being either in prison or dead.
>YES! YES! KILL AND IMPRISON THE PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH! ONLY THEN MAY MY OBJECTIVELY CORRECT IDEOLOGY MOVE FORWARD!
You know what, on second thought I think I'll keep those guns OP.

None of the two things that Trump is advocating would have had any effect here. The solution of the hated Liberals, though, would have.

Personally, I think that when people choose to have a free society (and I definitely do), then as a matter of course there will be greater security concerns. You cannot have high levels of security and high levels of freedom, especially in the age of extremist terrorism.

Things like the Orlando, San Bernardino and Boston shootings will happen in a free society because all such criminals acts cannot feasibly be prevented. An occasional instance like these tragedies are things that an honest American simply must accept as a "cost of doing business."

Reposting really should be a ban-able offense.

How would banning guns prevent an Islamic extremist from killing people? Here's an example of how Omar Mateen's attack would have played out had he not had a gun.

You really keep missing the point

Supporting Hillary in this election does not mean that a person agrees with, likes or even wants to tolerate any of her worst aspects.

It means that the person is rational enough to understand that Donald Trump is so horrible of a candidate that literally mainstream politician with a decent resume, from either party, is immeasurably preferable.

I'll repeat: you are supporting a candidate so toxic that his own party hates him and won't support him, and whom the CIA will murder to prevent from ever taking office.

>Kill all the people who own guns
>Kill 30-60% of any given region in the country
>Kill 144,000,000 people
>of which, if even low balling at a single percent at 1,440,000 violently resist, would still be the world's second largest army after north Korea

Sounds like a progressive society free of hate you're building. A true shining city on the hill that can serve as an example to the rest of the world after imprisoning or murdering half the fucking population.

>trumpophobia
>rational

You aren't getting this. There is nothing - and I truly mean nothing - than can be said about or unearthed about Hillary Clinton that would change the fact that she is an immeasurably superior candidate than Donald Trump. The world won't end if Hillary Clinton is elected. Things will continue along more or less as they had.

Donald Trump is so monumentally unfit for the presidency that the CIA is actually going to assassinate him if he appears headed for victory. If you are being serious about supporting him, then you are one of the greatest fools I've ever encountered.

If the government wants to give up their guns and gun control themselves first to prove it works, I'd be fine with that. It would be nice to not be involved in three different wars overseas.

4. Ban Moslem immigration/travel, repatriate Moslem immigrants and their descendants

5. Ban homosexuality and treat homosexuals in mental institutes

these two

>None of the two things that Trump is advocating would have had any effect here.
>This blatant deflection
And actually, you're wrong, you pathetic shill.

Hillary's state department shut down the investigation into the shooter's Mosque.
wnd.com/2016/06/orlando-mosque-tied-to-case-hillarys-state-dept-scrubbed/
archive.is/Fhw7q

Just like she shut down the investigation into the San Bernardino fucker's Mosque.
dailycaller.com/2015/12/11/whistleblower-feds-shut-down-terror-investigation-that-could-have-prevented-san-bernardino-attack/
archive.is/SaJYz

All because the investigation focused on a specific sect of Islam (read: it wasn't PC), which happens to produce 80% of that religion's terrorists.
I shouldn't need to tell you that, "Throwing away PC bullshit" has been the core concept of Trump's platform, and the man who blew the whistle on all this is on Trump's foreign policy team now.

So if he went in and blew himself up they'll clamor for banning assault suicide vests? Just so you know if he had detonated part of the building and blew himself up he would've likely gotten a higher killcount rather than just shooting fish in a barrel

>Support the worst politician of the last 50 years who will have 2-4 supreme Court nominees to carry on her corrupt legacy the next 50 years

If Hillary Clinton gets elected the country is fucked. Beyond fucked, even.

I've been on this earth too long to abide stupidity and ignorance on a grand scale

I'm not running for president, Trump is. So yes, I can use whatever vile language I desire to characterize him and his followers and it's not even remotely hypocritical. If I *was* running for president, I wouldn't be able to. But - like I said - I'm not.

"People you disagree with." People insisting that 2+2=5 are not "people I disagree with." Not every issue has two equally legitimate perspectives. Quite often there is what is right, and then there are a bunch of fools who believe what is wrong. I no longer have the energy to suffer the fools gladly.

People like this (who himself is probably just a troll who doesn't believe half of what he's writing) are not deserving of being legitimized as "people I disagree with." They are simply wrong - dangerously wrong - and there is no place in an enlightened society for them. As I said in another post - they would serve a greater utility as rotting carcasses fertilizing our fields than they do as living independent agents.

Yes, because those are literally the only three options that are available in regards to this specific instance

You can't prove that's true.

If anything would have stopped the shooting, it's the FBI getting off their ass or the merchant doing their fucking job and noticing this dude was on an FBI watchlist.

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>Wrong, dangerously wrong, because they don't want to kill the masses to enforce a really crappy ideology.
You're a funny one, user.

this user gets it, if they can make HME in their huts in afghanistan, a western country is nothing

we all know what needs to be done

Everything is most certainly NOT a matter of opinion.

I'm knowledgeable and intelligent and therefore I can prove things.

You can only parrot the sound-bytes you're fed, and then you get angry when the facts show that you are wrong and then insist that the facts were generated by a vast liberal conspiracy.

You've shown no interest in any kind of actual debate, so I'm just going to ridicule and humiliate you, because that is the treatment of which you are most deserving and because I rather enjoy it.

Extremely close minded. America will never give up guns because the future is questionable with HRC running. If she drops out ill feel more comfortable.

>Things will continue along more or less as they had.

Yep, a continuation of the policies she helped put in place that created the group the shooter pledged allegiance to before he committed his attack.

>Hillary clinton
>Having a decent resume
Also
>Using the fact that the GOP hates Trump as a point against him
There would be no such thing as a honestly good candidate who isn't hated by both parties, that is the extent of our country's corruption.
The fact that you don't understand that demonstrates your immaturity.

>vietnam
The goverments goal is not to bomb their citisens, but occupy them.

>Ad hominem
So intelligent and knowledgeable. Truly, my stupidity bows to your superior intellect as you fall for a most basic logical fallacy.

4. Banning Islam and expelling muslims.

None of them.
2. would have had the most impact.
What would have really prevented it is the police being more vigilant and acting on their intelligence. They had him, and they just let him do it.

>Shooter is a muslim
If you ban muslims then there are no muslims.
Crisis averted.

>Doesn't want an actual debate
Ignored this post, which devastates your anus with facts rather than a cartoon

Thats all a bunch of paranoid schitzophrenic Infowars type bullshit tripe

The answer is potentially none. If they banned firearms then there would be a black market for them the way there is for drugs.

This shooter and many others who intended to commit mass murder would simply purchase them on the black market.

Why/How are Liberals so fucking stupid? I not only cringe when I see their online rants, I literally start to get migraines.

>The answer is #durf. Only a comprehensive durf of durfarms would have durfed this attack and so many others.

>posts picture of a fat middle aged white man holding a gun because thats who you are "allowed" to criticize.

SHALL

>No guns liberal commies try and get the police to murder half the fucking population

Truly a progressive society free of hate.

And on the other hand, do you really think if 144,000,000 million Americans were issued a death sentence by the other half, that theyd sit there and die? I'm sure some would, obviously, but that would be a declaration of war. Whose side do you think would win? The chai latte drinking Seattle communist whose never done an honest days labor, or Burt, the survivalist whackjob who literally masturbates to the idea of aforementioned communist trying to take his SAW?

And then when Russia, China, whomever intervenes in by far the bloodiest war of all time and takes over the fucking country because the military is shooting all the gun owners, then what? When Wang confiscates all the food from Los Angeles to supply the glorious workers revolution in Dallas, and ten million people starve to death from your stupid short-sighted bullshit, then what? When the greatest country of all time is left in ruins from casualties that would make Attila the Hun shudder, then what? Kill yourself, you stupid fucking pinko communist.

Without defining the scope of the investigation, it's impossible to say who was right in this instance.

">not withdrawing troops before region stabilizes so isis wouldn't exist"

ROTFLMAO - you're not serious, are you?

Saved. Gonna keep posting this.

Obvious Jewery afoot

Please save pic guys

If anything, people getting killed by guns while trying to take guns away would just reinforce the fact that they shouldn't have guns.

Our ancestors hated Jews. Didn't like them. Said mean things about them. Forced them out of just about every country and city in Europe. Tortured 'em a bit. Killed a handful.

But they went to war against Islam. Man, woman, and child. Dead by the thousands. Bodies in the streets. From Umayyad to Ottoman, 13 centuries.

I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.

No it wouldn't, he would have used a different weapon or a homemade bomb if he couldn't get his hands on a gun. You would have to ban every single possible object that could possibly kill a human being from pens to hammers to rope to plastic bags to stop spree killers or religious lunatics from killing people when they get the idea in their head. If you banned literally everything they'd murder people they hate with their bare hands if necessary.

The only possible way to minimize damage done by spree killers or terrorists is to increase the likelihood that they'll be killed before they can do too much damage.

No, it only turns a shooting into a bombing.

Please don't blame all firearms for the misuse pf a few.
Guns are a tool of peace and this kind of rhetoric only triggers nonviolent moderate gun owners.

The citation is Michael Flynn, former Chief of the DIA under Obama.

I pity you, who lives like this, reacting to every fact that contradicts your delicate worldview like a vampire to sunlight.

Saved. Into the warchest it goes!

Think how many people would die if they tried to take away our bones.

Are you saying we shouldn't have bones?

banning islam would have don it banning guns would not have prevented it. we had a shooting yesterday in paris again guess the shittey cunt religion cmon dude guess

You sure are typing a whole lot for "just trolling" OP

>a comprehensive ban of firearms

is unconstitutional and would result in having firearms used on you in a coup

stop making these threads

no matter how many times you try, you cannot win here, and you never will

ever

THOSE DARN BUDDHISTS MUST BE AT IT AGAIN.

4. The FBI doing what we fucking pay them to do

Wrong, and shouldn't you be on /k/ trolling you faggot?

Mass shootings are caused primarily by two things

1.Societal malaise on a macro level and alienation on the individual level
2. Mass media providing worldwide infamy for anyone who commits one

Diversity is the main cause of #1 and the lugenpresse is the main cause of #2. Eliminate both and mass shootings will disappear. There's a reason why fully automatic weapons were perfectly legal for half a century yet "mass shootings" weren't really a thing until mass televised media.

Yeah, it's like CRAZY but it's pretty consistent that western countries with bans on handguns have almost no handgun deaths...

Or, or, you can, you know, get rid of the small amount of people in the country that belong to a group that is the number 1 source of terrorizing plots and killings of people just because they are not them. And even then they have and still continue to kill each other today on mere suspicion and because that guy thinks this guy is better than this other guy that I like.

Why do you think Buddhists, pretty much the world's most peaceful religion, hate the mudslimes? Because they realize the slimes just kill everything else and cause havoc.

The shooter worked for a security firm even if guns had been banned for civilians he would still be able to get his hands on a gun through his work.

Alternatively he could get a gun from the massive black market that would be created by banning guns.

Or maybe he would just blow himself up in the club they are pretty good at that.

If anything, trying to forcibly take people's right to defend themselves would just reinforce the fact that they should have guns.

The second amendment is there as a deterrent against tyranny. If you try and remove that deterrent, you're a tyrant.

More like a civil war. Guns will never be banned in the US because people don't want a civil war to be fought over it.

Requesting K screen cap of how various hill bully resistance groups could fuck the us military;

mass desertion of servicemen
Vets/ hill billies/ survivalists / k would all go in a woods
3 idiots could take out a power grid easily
F35 won't be patrolling street corners
One retard with a 22 shooting at a cop would require so much manpower and money in response, a handful of coordinated attacks could cripple a large area of government control

Tl;dr
Shall not be infringed

>ban firearms
>no clue how to handle the millions of registered and unregistered guns already on the street
>no clue how to handle the black market pumping thousands out a day
Are people really this dumb to think that if you ban guns, they just somehow magically disappear?

1. criminals just find other things to commit murders with. What the fuck does it matter if its not a GUN death, you child?
2. the only reason our murder rate is higher than anyone else's is because (until very recently) we're one of the few countries in the western world with a significant number of browns. The niggers alone double our murder rate.

Banning cars would also eliminate most car deaths, but that isn't exactly tenable is it. Forcing people to give up their cars alone would be completely impossible.

You mean the red team planner?

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How do you ban firearms?

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Then why aren't you trying to ban pools? It would save more lives.

His rifle was self loading

I assume you mean he was self loathing

this is a fallacious argument you're making

Fat white rednecks might have a lot more guns and rifles, but they actually can use them responsibly. Most of the daily gun crime is from nigs in urban cities with pistols, shooting and robbing each other.

His parents were born and radicalized in Afghanistan. If we had been banning Muslims for 50 years it would have prevented this terrorist attack. There's literally no way to deny this.

>it's pretty consistent that western countries with bans on handguns have almost no handgun deaths.

but they still have murder don't they

crime is already illegal, but it still happens HOW COULD THAT BE?

maybe we should ban free thought while we're banning guns

how do you ban firearms? you can't uncreate them, they're already here, ya dingus. can't turn back the hands of time!

Thanks best ally

>The answer is #3.

>Excuse me mister terrorist, rifles are ILLEGAL, DUH.
>Excuse me mister terrorist, this is a GUN FREE ZONE, read the sign.

S H A L L
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No problem, hat.

I just got a 5 year nra membership

Suck it gun grabbers, this shit just makes us stronger.

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gtfo shills

Why are you so racist OP?

>those Founding Fathers didn't know what they were talking about, the crazy loons!
Traitors, please go.

Migraine intensifies when confronted with John Oliver tier humor.

>banning guns after half a billion of them are already in people's homes

Absolutely fucking brilliant

youtube.com/watch?v=Fna9WEO6BjE

Filipinos make guns in their fucking backyards!!!

governance isn't taking away firearms from literally millions of americans because one literal homosexual faggot moslem slaughtered a bunch of other homosexuals.

'this guy did that, so we're taking all the rest of you guys' stuff away'

are you fucking retarded, faggot?

never shot a gun myself, but some insane shitskin faggot in florida has literally nothing to do with a white gunowner in whereever the fuck, missouri. nothing.