Tfw no Snow Crash movie ever

>tfw no Snow Crash movie ever
>tfw only cyberpunk movies of note are Blade Runner and The Matrix
>tfw Ghost in the Shell movie will be ass

>tfw only cyberpunk movies of note are Blade Runner and The Matrix

>no snow crash movie ever

good

Also the reason they're purposefully making shitty "cyberpunk" movies is to obfuscate the fact actual cyberpunk predicted every aspect of modern society, minus all the cool shit. For we got the corporate controlled existential nightmare future in which only the megarich have any power and everyone else is a glorified slave, but we didn't get neural augmentation, space travel, full sensory simulated realities, AIs, nano-tech, or firing magnetic grappling hooks at helicopters and surfing through the streets on smartboards.

A microcosm of this is robocop, as the original predicted the state of detroit to the fucking letter, except without reanimated cyborg police.

Robocop's Detroit was just a coincidence. It didn't predict the racial problems or infrastructural problems.

hackers was more "dial-upFAG" than "cyberpunk."

Robocop predicted the class and infrastructure problems just about exactly.

race and class are linked in correlation, not causation.

What are you talking about. Hackers is 100% cyberpunk.

>I base this on how I've read exactly zero cyberpunk

Robocop
Hackers
Blade Runner
Matrix
Johnny Mnemonic
Sneakers
Mr Robot S1
GitS

speak for yourself

Been a while, but I quite liked Cypher.
No budget, but the tone felt right.

Is necromancer actually good? I've gotten through the set up and I like the world and how much like the matrix it is in style; and it's really one of the most depressing things I've ever read.

But holy shit I can't even find a plot. It's just a hacking job that goes wrong and that's the plot for the last 3/4s?

if Hackers isn't cyberpunk then nothing is, they even make direct references to cyberpunk works

>Blade Runner
>cyberpunk

Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken.

To say, fight club is closer in spirit to cyberpunk than hackers.

Nueromancer > Burning Chrome > Mona Lisa Overdrive > Count Zero

kek, nobody in this thread can spell Neuromancer right

I've only read Neuromancer. Are the others worth reading?

its phoneposting.

If you're into the genre I'd say definitely yes to Burning Chrome, the others are hit and miss

bullshit

Hackers is textbook cyberpunk in every conceivable way, from the narrative to the themes to the visual style. Only someone who knows nothing about the genre would claim otherwise

>Is necromancer actually good?
yes, Novamancer is one of best d2lod builds, with great damage output

I like summon more though

Or maybe approaching concepts of oppressive corporate rulership in an age of ever expanding technological capacity (that never happened) with a bunch of faggy prep schoolers fighting another faggy prepschooler with friendship, forced joviality, and holding up floppies as if they were sporks, is cyperpunk only in form, rather than function.

But hey, people confusing form for function is why everything is so completely fucked right now. So it makes sense you'd be unable to tell the difference.

Talking out your absolute ASS

Stephenson's books are unadaptable to film without negating the source material.

so your reason for claiming that it isn't cyberpunk is because the characters are friendly and happy and the movie is a bit campy? lel, I must have missed where cyberpunk can only be about depressed drug-addled misanthropes

The only thing that makes sense is how autistic you are

I don't know, it'd be pretty easy to make a movie out of neil degrasse tyson and elon musk saving humanity.

the term "punk" in cyberPUNK specifically referrers to the disenfranchised and marginalized.

So a pack of cool attractive popular kids in a permanent state of awkward teenaged rebellion doesn't qualify.

But like I said, its okay, you're apple generation. You couldn't tell form from function with an iDildo jammed up your ass.

Quintessential Cyberkino right here. As far as other techkino goes, Antitrust is really good too. Not quite cyberpunk but it delves a lot into the late 90's early 2000's programming culture.

no one talking about Ferrara's New Rose Hotel.

Detroit had race and money problems 20 years before Robocop. It is a capitalist joke in the the movie mixed with cyborg tech and crime that was already there in real life. The 80s were about yuppies & greed. Their own creations to make money (industrial weapons) turned on them. Frigging great movie. Everybody in the USA should know Detroit was messed up long before I was born, but it was America's greatest City, and is not a joke. Its going to happen everywhere.

Hackers is awesome btw. Its cyberpunk 100% even if you strip away the cheese.

> Oh, they used to argue over times, many corporate driver-years lost to it: homeowners, red-faced and sweaty with their own lies, stinking of Old Spice and job-related stress, standing in their glowing yellow doorways brandishing their Seikos and waving at the clock over the kitchen sink, I swear, can't you guys tell time?

> Didn't happen anymore. Pizza delivery was a major industry. A managed industry. People went to CosaNostra Pizza University four years just to learn it. Came in its doors unable to write an English sentence, from Abkhazia, Rwanda, Guanajuato, South Jersey, and came out knowing more about pizza than a Bedouin knows about sand. And they had studied this problem. Graphed the frequency of doorway delivery-time disputes. Wired the early Deliverators to record, then analyze, the debating tactics, the voice-stress histograms, the distinctive grammatical structures employed by white middle-class Type A Burbclave occupants who against all logic had decided that this was the place to take their personal Custerian stand against all that was stale and deadening in their lives: they were going to lie, or delude themselves, about the time of their phone call and get themselves a free pizza; no, they deserved a free pizza along with their life, liberty, and pursuit of whatever, it was fucking inalienable. Sent psychologists out to these people's houses, gave them a free TV set to submit to an anonymous interview, hooked them to polygraphs, studied their brain waves as they showed them choppy, inexplicable movies of porn queens and late-night car crashes and Sammy Davis, Jr., put them in sweet-smelling, mauve-walled rooms and asked them questions about Ethics so perplexing that even a Jesuit couldn't respond without committing a venial sin.

It'd never work. How are you supposed to translate Snow Crash into film without monologuing the whole thing?

>cool attractive popular kids
Dade doesn't have any friends in the beginning. Joey and Cereal are losers. They are all freaks to anyone that don't know how to use a computer. Sorry you hate anything that looks good, entertaining, and is art.

>Its going to happen everywhere.

Not really. What fucked over Detroit and the rust belt is all industry moving out municipalities that only existed because of industry.

That, by definition, can't happen everywhere.

2meta and genre pastiche for modern capeshit quip audiences

Reamde is probably the most adaptable but that's because it's staged as a movie-thriller. Possibly Diamond Age too.

Cryptonomicon would be good as a miniseries, but would be unfaithful unless they adapt the Furniture Fetishist and Captain Crunch chapters.

>dade
new kid

Seriously did you see this movie when you were 12 or something? It's awful and embarrassing in every way shape and form and the only reason anyone would work so hard to defend it is it being a cornerstone of their childhood.

>the term "punk" in cyberPUNK specifically referrers to the disenfranchised and marginalized.
and they are marginalized, because they're hackers being used as a scapegoat so a corporate desk jockey can get away with millions of dollars. The entire story is an us vs them tale that is punk as fuck

Them being "attractive popular kids" in no ways discredits the film from being cyberpunk except in your head. Whatever specific personal definition of the genre you have is irrelevant, talk out of your ass all you want it doesn't change the fact that Hackers is a cyberpunk film and everyone but you knows it

>But like I said, its okay, you're apple generation. You couldn't tell form from function with an iDildo jammed up your ass.
Ah yes, more "I am my own authoritative source" bullshit, because you as a member of whatever arbitrary generation automatically knows more on every subject than the millennial boogyman who is ruining your precious culture

get over yourself faggot

>a team of cool kids against a single corporate desk jokey is "us vs them"

jesus christ you're retarded

yeah, because only ugly kids who aren't popular at school can be punk, according to your retarded headcanon

again, you have yet to provide anything suggesting that it isn't cyberpunk except your own unique definition of it which no one shares

and you're insisting it is cyberpunk because it references actual cyberpunk and kind of sort of looks like what a faggot teen would think cyberpunk is.

Hence the "iDildo" and "apple generation" cracks.

yeah, just keep pulling shit of your ass, that proved your point so well before

>Snowcrash movie.
>Main character is named Hero Protagonist.
>He serves pizza for the mafia.
>If people try to get pizzas for free he can legally kill them.
>Self-aware giant robot dogs.
>His sidekick is a teenage girl with an anti-rape dart in her pussy.
>She almost gets raped by an albino Alaskan with a miniature nuke on his motorcycle.
>He hunts whales with an obsidian harpoon on a giant floating garbage barge city.
>Everyone is being killed by emoticons or some shit I can't remember.
>Cyberspace is basically just Habbo hotel.

That sounds fucking rad, OP. But impossible to put on film.

love this movie

HACK THE PLANET

Considering the general tone of cyberpunk is oppressive marginalization by corporate technocracy in an existential nightmare future and hackers is about happy-go-lucky cool/attractive kids sticking it to a cyberpunk protagonist, I really don't see how I need to further prove my point.

You've clearly read nothing and seem the type to apply "punk" to other random words and insist its just about the same thing.

Hackers is a techno-thriller where the main characters no doubt base their lifestyle around the cyberpunk literature they obviously consume but the movie itself isn't 'cyberpunk' per se even if cyberpunk culture influenced it to a certain degree aesthetically.

same artist

>giant corporation hiring evil hackers
>hackers stealing
>hackers hacking hackers
>high school age hackers (that's practically the definition of low life)
>cyberpunk AESTHETIC clubs
>rollerblades EVERYWHERE

the movie itself is very cyberpunk

Cyberpunk, like film noir, doesn't require every work to tick every single box that people associate with the genre. Yes, they are happy-go-lucky attractive kids, they are also being oppressed. They are being unfairly targeted by the FBI, and being framed by a high-ranking corporate official.

It may not be a "nightmare future," but the world of Hackers is a sort of alternate reality where hackers unite to fight against "The Man." The only "point" you've made so far is that they can't be punk because they are good-looking and have friends, which is completely ridiculous. Your terribly specific and demanding standards for what qualifies as "cyberpunk" just doesn't hold up to scrutiny

>You've clearly read nothing and seem the type to apply "punk" to other random words and insist its just about the same thing.
And you've clearly developed some bizarre mental idea of specifically what "punk" is, excluding all other degrees or interpretations because obviously you are ultimate authority. After all, you're the only one who's ever picked up a book in their life. Holy shit you sound like an insufferable faggot

DAMN YT LOOKS LIKE THAT?

i wonder if half the movie would be thoroughly detailing the tower of babylon myth because that shit was boring as fuck in the book

>tfw you go to reply and the CAPTCHA has a spooky message

It would cause 2 massive shitstorms if it was properly adapted.
First one being that there barely is an ending, it almost feels like somebody ripped out last 10-15 pages out when you first read it.
Second one being that the main female character is 15, and has raunchy rough sex with the main villain before he passses out who is much older than her, and does it willingly despite the fact that he would probably just rape her if she resisted. Even funnier is the main bad guy passes out while fucking her cause she has an anti-rape device inside of cunt that she forgot to take out (in fact it is implied that if she remembed she had it, she would have removed it before sex). Just imagine all the rape and pedo shitstorm all of this would create.

I really liked the bullshit sumerian mythology

Every Stephenson book has a creepy rape scene that's supposed to somehow end up feminist and empowering- in both REAMDE and The Diamond Age the girl brutally murders her rapist not two minutes after he finishes

>tfw only cyberpunk movies of note are Blade Runner and The Matrix
Total Recall? T2?

What's some good cyberpunk fiction I can get into besides this and Gibson? Looking for some reading material over winter break

Allegedly "The Cybernetic Samurai" but I haven't read it.

another Snow Crash thread, and Seveneves still sucked after the first half

It would work much better as an anime/ cartoon.