Ok Sup Forums, if banning guns doesn't work, why did Australians all around violent crime rate go down?

Ok Sup Forums, if banning guns doesn't work, why did Australians all around violent crime rate go down?

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ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847
youtube.com/watch?v=OyS3CEIbpJo
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege
baka.com.au/nsw/hunt-family-murders-witness-describes-final-night-at-family-home-20151006-gk2vo5.html
baka.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-gunman-man-monis-was-a-radicialised-terrorist-us-expert-says-20150824-gj6wlm.html
9news.com.au/national/2016/03/12/03/33/vic-records-15-shootings-in-eight-days
abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/sydney-ingleburn-gunman-dead-in-siege-after-fatal-shooting/7226058
theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/australian-court-gagging-order-abuse-legal-process
ssaa.org.au/ilasep98.html
abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/44e7066a7d173...
reason.com/blog/2012/12/27/how-has-heightened-gun-control-worked-in
articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-18/opinion/chi-the-failure-of-gun-control-in-australia-20130118_1_gun-control-mandatory-gun-gun-deaths
snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916?nk=c1720804438b0b9f14802266b41dd806
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/bill-holmes-homemade-smg-others-spotted-australia/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/16/mp40-found-in-australia/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/21/potd-fp-45-liberator-found-australia/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/08/australian-police-arrest-homemade-pen-gun-supplier/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/02/51213/
aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime/assault.html
aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime.html
aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime/victims.html
ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847#sthash.0E9oxbSU.dpuf
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But it didn't.

Someone post the infographs proving this please.

are those crime rates adjusted for population differences?

per 100,000

No in fact it rose.
ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847

I'll be waiting. Still no one able to prove me wrong!

It didn't. You are just lying.

Australia is still in the process of civilization.

Crime rate just went down because the abos got more civilized

Not a government source

Because they live in an isolated Island. If you ban Guns in America, bad people will just buy it illegally from Mexicans or even Canadians. Believe me, I live in a gun-free "paradise" and the bad guys just buy their assault rifles from Paraguay

they dotn have mexicans

>believing a government

Also, there are like 4 people on australia, and 3.7 of them are white.

I heard that the violent crime rate had already been going down, and that in fact the pace of this decline decreased after the Austrailian "gun ban".

We're not giving them up OP cuck.

Just get over it. If you are sane and don't rely on psych drugs, get a carry permit, a decent gun, and a safe to keep your supplies and money in. It will save you some stress.

Australia's crime rate is undeniably on the rise. This is what happens when you remove guns from law-abiding citizens while criminals keep their illegal firearms.

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tqhwy I am arguging with a libtard and just needed sources so I had to go undercover

thanks guys

>not a government source
That makes it more credible, if anything.

> why did Australians all around violent crime rate go down?
Source?

Not true, but, Aussies have a lower nigger population

gun deaths include suicides. people who wanted to kill themselvs just found other ways to.

>only 5 posts by this id
Fuckin hillashills gtfo reee

Australia didnt have a high homicide rate before 1996.

Australia is autistic.

Here's the video I got this from familia no problems just asked to be red pilled with a good question next time and many of us will help you out with the exception of shit posters.
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youtube.com/watch?v=OyS3CEIbpJo

Australia doesn't have a nigger problem

schlomo does this to unarmed opponents.

1/2

Our ex prime minister john howard got on your tv last night to LIE to your nation that gun control worked down under.

I am here to give you the real facts and dispute every single one of his lies with cited sources. Your job is then to save all these facts and BTFO anyone who tries to lie that aussie gun control worked. You will prevent the tragedy that happened to us happening in your nation and perhaps even redpill a few of my own countrymen as to the lies we've been fed.

>John howard claimed we have not had a mass shooting since port arthur
We have had FOUR since.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monash_University_shooting
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Hectorville_siege
The hunt family murders
baka.com.au/nsw/hunt-family-murders-witness-describes-final-night-at-family-home-20151006-gk2vo5.html
The recent sydney seige
baka.com.au/nsw/sydney-siege-gunman-man-monis-was-a-radicialised-terrorist-us-expert-says-20150824-gj6wlm.html

Now time for some bonus points. Last week in victoria we've had 15 shootings, source below. We also had ANOTHER seige in sydney in the last week.
9news.com.au/national/2016/03/12/03/33/vic-records-15-shootings-in-eight-days
abc.net.au/news/2016-03-07/sydney-ingleburn-gunman-dead-in-siege-after-fatal-shooting/7226058
This is the first lie they push about our country. That the violence stopped. It did not stop, it has been brutally supressed due to gag and control orders on our media.
theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/australian-court-gagging-order-abuse-legal-process

I find it amusing that people who want to ban guns thinking it will reduce gun crime.
Especially when they point to Australia as being a "gun control success story".

Australia is having an increase in crime, and has had one since the gun ban in 1997. Gun crime HAS gone down, yet what anti-gunners will not tell you is that it was dropping BEFORE the ban.
Link: ssaa.org.au/ilasep98.html
abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/44e7066a7d173...
reason.com/blog/2012/12/27/how-has-heightened-gun-control-worked-in
articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-18/opinion/chi-the-failure-of-gun-control-in-australia-20130118_1_gun-control-mandatory-gun-gun-deaths
snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

Did you know: one in ten of all guns seized by police from criminals in Australia is a DIY submachine gun?
Here are some articles showing the major failures of Australia's "tough" gun laws you won't see on TV-
I found these in less than 10 minutes:
dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/jeweller-angelos-koots-admits-to-making-submachine-guns-at-his-seven-hills-home-and-supplying-them-to-bikie-groups/story-fni0cx12-1226760983916?nk=c1720804438b0b9f14802266b41dd806
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/03/10/australian-police-seize-homemade-submachine-gun-drug-raid/

thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/08/05/bill-holmes-homemade-smg-others-spotted-australia/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/07/16/mp40-found-in-australia/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/21/potd-fp-45-liberator-found-australia/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/10/08/australian-police-arrest-homemade-pen-gun-supplier/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/12/02/51213/

As you can see here:

>Assault rose
aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime/assault.html

>Sexual assault rose for 5-6 years following, before dropping off. Kidnapping also rose.
aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime.html

>Crime=terrorism

aic.gov.au/statistics/violent crime/victims.html
Assaults are up. Murders are down.

Violent crimes substantially few years after passing the law.If you don't believe check government sources yourself, nigger.
Do your own fucking research if you discredit others as biased.

Homicide rates have hardly moved in Australia in last 20 years, while they have fallen by about 50% in US.

Guns do not have a brain to pull a trigger.
The AR-15 didn't do this.
The Boston bombings were pipe bombs, and bombs are already banned.
You CANNOT ban something. It will not stop death. Period.
Look at France. Strictest gun laws in the world.
130 shot dead.

No niggers and abos are basically irrational animals.

It was already going down faggot.

They went down. Except for rape. ABS confirmed.

In fact, it shows that banning guns doesn't change overall patterns of crime.

>abos
>civilised
Yeah nah not a fucking chance

Also there is a very small amount of shootings here, people mainly just get stabbed instead

We don't have 13% nigs or what ever you guys have.

Also there was not many guns to start with.

If you ban guns in the USA guns would still be in the hands of criminals for decades while no one else would have them.

Also you guys have 2 land borders one of them with a failed state. As such illegal guns will be much easier to bring in than they are to Australia.

The violent crime rate in Australia decreased after our gun ban because the violent crime rate was already decreasing.

Just like the violent crime rate in America decreases every single year without fail and the gun ownership rate in America increases every single year without fail.

kys.

Didn't the ban happen in the 90s?

It's irrelevant to compare 2010-2011 etc. It is more relevant to compare pre-ban (somewhere in the 90s) to post-ban (prefferably soon after in the 90s) data.

worked brettu gud in uk

"It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
Source: ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847#sthash.0E9oxbSU.dpuf

>call him a kike, a shill, a liberal panty-waist; he is not affected
>but show him this graph without its axes and watch him recoil in autismal frustrated rage and horror

It's been the same pattern for a while since the gun ban, with some minor fluctuations. Don't have the right infographic to show this. But violence in Australia has gone down since the gun ban, gun deaths have gone down, and gun homicides have gone down. It's pretty solid evidence, especially now we have a larger data set to assess the situation. Australia is difference from most other countries because guns aren't coming in easily across land borders, but this situation does provide some really solid evidence for the effectiveness of gun control. No gun massacres (at least how I understand the term, with more than three indiscriminate deaths) since Port Arthur. That's a pretty amazing achievement, especially considering how many Jihadist faggots are trying to cause trouble.