What do you think about communism?

For a guy that lived both in communism and democracy i think that the communism was better

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Oh god, have fun with this thread OP.

Well then i've got good news for you: Democracy of the purely capitalistic kind is in a similar spiral of decline as communism was.

Democracy is communism.
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Why are you all so against capitalism? It's a basic exchange sysem that's stood the test of time since the stone age.

Communism was a Wall St scheme to enslave the world, and take their profit. So you're doubly retarded anyway.

so obama, trump, merkel, hillary etc are communist agents?
Those communists seem very effective at whatever they do.
what makes you think that op? What are the differences?

Communism is cancer

PISS FLAG

PISS FLAG

let me guess, you never had to actually work and that's why communism is better?

Communism is obviously superior to capitalism.

I often fantasize about living in East Germany

>secure job
>neat commie wife
>maybe go to party meetings
>STASI takes cares of cucks that fell for the "freedom" meme
>children can go to school
>go on vacation to the black sea

go on vacation to the gulag*

It sucked ass. We were producing shit that russians than just took away for free and there wasn't enough left for us.

Only rich people work. They create the jabs. Everbody else is lazy. Kek.

You have no idea what either capitalism or communism are.

It enrages me that so many of you poorly educated shits share the same political position as me.
I end up looking like a retard for being on the same side as you despite being informed myself.

Actually you had to work otherwise you would starve to death because commies didnt recognized unemployment as a legitimate problem in the socialist paradise

Not an argument.

It's common knowledge that Lenin's army came from New York, and international capital was involved in communism the whole time.

"The top Communist leaders have never been as hostile to their counterparts in the West, as the rhetoric suggests. They are quite friendly to the world's leading financiers and have worked closely with them, when it suits their purposes. As we shall see in the following section, the Bolshevik revolution actually was financed by wealthy financiers in London and New York. Lenin and Trotsky were on the closest of terms with these moneyed interests both before and after the Revolution. Those hidden liaisons have continued to this day and occasionally pop to the surface, when we discover a David Rockefeller holding confidential meetings with a Mikhail Gorbachev in the absence of government sponsorship or diplomatic purpose.

One of the greatest myths of contemporary history is that the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was a popular uprising of the downtrodden masses against the hated ruling class of the Tsars. As we shall see, however, the planning, the leadership and especially the financing came entirely from outside Russia, mostly from financiers in Germany, Britain and the United States. Furthermore we shall see, that the Rothschild Formula played a major role in shaping these events."

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>law abiding citizens
>going to gulag

The dindu nuffin meme surrounding Gulags need to stop

How long have you lived in communism?

>Complete destruction of the original culture
>Complete removal of religion
>Complete moral decay (as noted by the USSR pre-Stalin mentality)
>Subversion of the masses to avoid public outcry
>Those that manage to speak out against the party leaders or party itself are swiftly executed and/or silenced (See China's current affairs or Trotsky if you wish)
>Collapses in on itself without complete modification and/or acceptance of free market capitalism

We've seen it rise and fall time and time again. The only thing respectable of Communism is the inherit values it preaches but it fails to practice it. Much like Fascism; Communism is only ever brought about because of reactionaries believing that they know what's best.

What it fails to do, however, is provide. Communism at it's core is a flawed philosophy that depends on hard economic downfall and misuse of the working class. Unlike National Socialism; Communism keep these effects active to continuously preach about how it will save people.

National Socialism (or Nazism to be specific) was able to preach about inequality, misuse of the working class, and repairing a nations economy and then subsequently put all of it's ideas in practice which worked.

National Socialism is the reactionaries philosophy to Marxist based Socialism and Communism and is inherently stronger, faster, and overall better.

Think what you like, but you are wrong.
It just drags all of us down.

Its amazing how many opportunities communism provided to the ordinary people.
Lets take my grandpa for example.
>born in dirt poor peasant family
>father spends 5 years as a POW in Russia and returns as a raging alcoholic
>study veterinary medicine at some state sponsored technical school
>get a job at the collective farm in the nearby village
>builds a brand new brick hous for him and his family
>later on joins the party and advaces up on the hierarchical ladder
>becomes the first man in the village who owns a car
>buys a comfy appartment in a brand new commieblock in nearby town
>job transfers for him and his wife
>eventually gets promoted as a manager of a lactate product factory
>buys appartmets for both his sons and gets them both through college
>retires in his native village where he still practices his job on request

I'm not arguing with your theory that the Bolshevik revolution was funded by wall street. You might be right, I don't honestly give a shit about that.

I'm saying that this
>Why are you all so against capitalism? It's a basic exchange sysem that's stood the test of time since the stone age.
betrays how uneducated you are of what capitalism actually IS on a very basic level.

And this clear ignorance undermines any larger point you might be trying to make.

For gods sake man, read some economics 101.

Pretentious faggot.

cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Private wealth accumulating, and driving society forward has most certainly been with us since the stone age.

How old are you?
With proof!

Holy shit did you just google "capitalism" and post the result?

I told you to get a BOOK you stupid nigger.

I'm betting half a chance or greater that you're a welfare queen.

What exactly was i wrong about in my original post?

So,why did you execute your communist dictators?

>born in a poor family
>works on farm until age 12
> Family moves to Michigan so dad can work in auto plant
> I work on cars and at a pickle factory to make money
>Save up for university
>Study's every day and gets honors in high school
>Gets scholarship to Michigan college
>Still not a ton of money
>Build car engines to pay for expenses
>Graduate university with outstanding grades
>Get hired as engineer
>Slowly work up to the top
>Become executive
>Making 6 figures and leading a good life.

Hard work pays off
also DEATH TO THE REDS!!!

His political enemies killed him

The earliest form of market capitalism that we have definitive evidence of began in Europe somewhere between 1000 and 800 years ago.

It was an economic and political solution to the problem of restricted innovation that arose due to the long term technological stagnation of feudal economics.

Capitalism is not the exchange of goods and services. The simplest form of that would be an anarcho-barter economy that lacks capital to begin with.

The establishment of capitalistic societies is one of the greatest collective achievements in human history. It has been the driving force behind most of recent human achievement as you alluded to.

It is currently under threat in the modern world and one of the biggest threats is a desire to dismantle it brought about through IGNORANCE of how it actually functions.

So i wasn't wrong at all, and you're just e-peening like bitch?

>Corrupt the young
You want me to tell you why this is a bullshit excerpt?

As a person who lived both under democracy and communism, i think both are trash.

Fascism is the way to go

Yeah. right

When did I say you were wrong? Wrong about what even?

I'm saying that you clearly don't understand capitalism, and by extension i'd wager you don't understand communism or economics in general.

People like you and the dumb things you say are what the Marxist retards point to to make their points. You make it easy for them.
Why not put some time aside, educate yourself. and make it difficult for them?

>Hard work pays off
True. I never said my grandpa sat on his ass all day waiting for the state to provide for him.
But in the commie era, the state made sure that you were rewarded for your hard work. At also provided jobs and opportunities that were inexistent before, in the pre war era.

>When did I say you were wrong? Wrong about what even?
>People like you and the dumb things you say

How bout you come back after you pull that stick out of your ass? Get bullied by pakis today?

I could use some more textbooks, got any book recommendations friendo?

mori, futu-ti cristosii ma-tii de cacat comunist cu ochi

Why did the Koch brothers help Stalin build his old refineries you stupid fucking cuck. Don't you have a knife to bin somewhere.

It's a gypsy circus tent flag

Work is compulsary in Socialism.

die in hell you stupid cunt go move in north korea commie trash gtfo of my country we don't want people like you here lazy fuck you only want communism because you are too lazy and you want others to pay for your food tipical psd voter you are a human trash

How is this communism? Sounds like the capitalist dream to me.

Oh yeah, only criminals went to gulags
so what crime did you commit?
You got nice flat, or color tv?

>He thinks that is norm in capitalism

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based romanbro

Bring back the classical one. It wasn't that violent in Polan.

But you know what? Murrica simply LOVES to fight with commies so please triple consider.

Btw what is worse? Being called a gypsy or a toilet cleaner?

Kill yourself

>I want others to pay for my shit
Delete your account OP

All I can say is that the communism my grandparents lived under was a hell of a lot better than the Islam my parents had to leave.

And here are the reasons why it would not work today.

Not a commie myself, but only in capitalism you have neets,welfare leechers or richkidsofinstagram who never have to work a day in their life. In socialism you must to work or they gulag the shit out of you.

I'm a neet so I have no love for socialism, but your "socialist don't want to work" argument is absurd.

me on the right

Best diagram coming through

Haven't you got birds to exterminate and famines to cause?

Unemployment was a crime in the union. It was called freeloading. There was a phrase in the constitution 'He who does not work does not eat'

Communism vastly improved the living conditions for millions of people who were living peasant lives under tyrannical kings. The USSR took literacy from ~19% to 99% in one generation, setup universal healthcare and education, made housing, transportation and work available to all. USSR produced important cultural achievements in music, film, art and science and by the 70's on avg soviet citizens read more books, saw more films and visited galleries more frequently than Americans.
Unfortunately people get caught up in comparing the USSR with the US too often since they don't have comparable histories. Up until 1917 Russia was effectively still a feudal monarch caught in the Middle Ages, and during the civil war (in which allied forces fought against the communists, and lost) the infrastructure they had was nearly completely destroyed and they basically had to start from scratch. Wwii happens and again they suffer the destruction of a huge section of their infrastructure and basically have to reset. Despite this, and constant US interference, sabotage, military threats which more them to divert spending to the military rather than social services, they still existed as a world super power, had one of the most consistently rising GDPs and fully modernized a place as large and diverse as the whole USSR, all in the span of a human life. So sure, maybe if you are a white American it would have been a step down to live there but if you lived in Latin America or Africa, it would have seemed like a paradise.

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The modern Western communist doesn't realize that revolutionary vanguardism is not a skill that translates to any practical use. If the West ever went full commie they would be the ones doing the most menial labor possible and would kill themselves.

I've actually seen the person in the pic attached, he's part of the communist party that my college harbors. Don't know who he is but I've found the name of one of those faggots and they confirm every stereotype of someone who identifies as a "communist" in America/Europe.

top kek OP
tell them about state terror and clandestine operations from your Securitate
tell them about sucking Serbian cock for coffee and jeans imported from Trieste
tell them about hyperinflation
tell them about planned economy
tell them how equal you were

I could get Yugo commies but Romanian communism was absolute shit

but they were stalinists, not communists.

There is literally nothing wrong with Stalinism.

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But it is true that "capitalism" in postcommunist countries is getting shittier and shittier.

No social security, no social ties, no culture, no stability, no retirement, no children, no science, small rich elite.

How does it smell to you, soldier?

Afgani?

there is absolutely nothing wrong with shooting communists on sight.

(you)

that doesn't make communism better tho even if you're right

I like some aspects of it, like the unapologetic mass murder and having people and ideas disappear down the memory hole.

if you think there's no de facto compulsion in the market, you gotta leave your basement and live your life a bit m8

Actually, drugs were criminalized in 1960 because of stupid amerifats and their UN. Before that, there were giant state sponsored cannabis industry. REEEEEE

Communism or even socialism has never really been tried. The workers never owned the means of production.

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Lel

Personally I'm better under capitalism, I have ability to make moneyz.
As a compassionate human being I should wish for communism, where nanny state supports the weak, beats the lazy parasites and makes sure you can not accumulate wealth by tricking stupid goys.

Obviously everyone in the world can not live like in the West under capitalism, the whole point is stealing shit from third world through economy. There're just not enough resources.

>Obviously everyone in the world can not live like in the West under capitalism, the whole point is stealing shit from third world through economy
pretty much this

well you're in luck pal, you don't have to stay in shitty capitalist romania, just hop a plane and fly to such wonderful nations as cuba, laos, vietnam, or north korea, i'm sure a happy life awaits you in those workers' paradises

you forgot Venezuela, it's like you're on a tropical vacation 365 days per year

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I am kind of getting sentimental, I just want my potato and family.

enjoying your summer vacation?

your history books lied to you
there was no holocaust
hitler did nothing wrong

Russia you are so based!

Wet dream of retards.

THE REASON WHY BULGARIA IS SHITTY

I get you, but sadly communist regimes discredit themselves
Bulgaria was literally among poorest states of Europe in 30's, together with Yugoslavia and Romania, and all three were only ahead of Albania
stop this dumb myth
Balkans were always corrupt and shitty, at least since Ottomans came
commies at least built some infrastructure and industry

Your graph doesn't present any kind of counter argument, and instead makes you look ignorant and childish.

If the "capitalism" could restrict itself a bit it would be nice. Polan is literally going to cease to exist.

Under communism we had a natural growth at least.

Communism is a good idea on paper but it doesn't work due to the conflicting ideas in the communism manifesto.