What did they ever actually do that was wrong?

What did they ever actually do that was wrong?

they were white males

they were white slavers

Enslaved Twi'leks

blowing up planets might generally be seen as a dick move

White men shouldn't be allowed to live.

They blew up a couple planets.

Speaking of planets, why did they blow up Sariff of whatever beach-archive place was called? Rebels already got the data, so they just bombed their dudes and own intelligence for nothing.

Alderaan was literally a rebel planet

To show the rebellion they weren't fucking around

Planets that are in open war against the Empire? That's like saying using bombers against Germany in WWII was evil.

Nothing. Even In The Phantom Menace, Queen Amidala admits, "It is clear to me now that the Republic no longer functions."

The empire doesn't want slaves or destruction or "evil." It wants order.

Alderaan wasnt in open war against the empire, they were secretly funding the rebellion though. Which is even worse

....by killing their own dudes? I know the movie was pretty dumb, but even then killing somewhere that's not their base seems a little smarter. Or at least maybe blow up a rebel ship instead?

that was after the rebels started shit with them.

>destroy democratic process and have a wizard dictator
>enslave entire populations
>re-introduce slavery and trade with intergalactic slave empires
>destroy planets
>genocide populations
>planetary extinction events
>render planets inhospitable
>officers and troopers are encourage to rewarded with loyalty by killing each other
>your leader is trying to warp reality to make his own galaxy
Not sure why they're evil, OP.

fucking idiot

Genoside

they didn't have enough melanin

Tarkin specifically said to target the satalite so that the transmission wouldn't get out. they didn't target the base directly.

In the films they just seem like authoritative government pricks. The new EU basically confirms that they were space nazis, though. What with slavery, concentration/labor camps, etc.

Plus you've got the creepy Roman-esque Imperial cult, which most people probably didn't care for. Not sure if you could call it 'wrong' so objectively though.

alderaan is pretty inexcusible.

The U.S. blew up a couple cities but are seen as good guys.

The Sup Forumstards showed up pretty fast lmao

Battle of Endor was inspired by Vietnam war

>are seen as good guys
i've got some bad news for you

Basic premise of Star Wars films is the good vs evil plain fights.

>Empire is actually not evil.


You got the movies wrong OP

they never really do anything evil on screen though

nothing any more evil than the shit that happened during the Republic days

Empire is controlled by the Sith right?

The sith are pretty evil

But the actions of the Empire are not evil.
Blowing up a planet in the Star Wars universe is the equivalent of destroying a hut in the middle east.
Sheev got made emperor by the senate.
He attacked the Jedi because they wanted him dead in the first place.

I didn't get this either. You figure the main archive would have info and schematics for a whole load of shit like starships and military plans etc. And he was just like lol fuck it blow it up

They outlawed human/Bothan porn.

killed a lot of people who were just hanging out

blew up cities and planets

enslaved and destroyed civilizations

just made edgy sperglords of themselves and ruined it for people having fun

Then why not use a missile? Or at the very least, since they know the signal already got uploaded, not blow up their own fucking planet.

Maybe they were just choking on their desire to use the Deathstar

>implying the opinions of non Americans are relevant in any way

You gon get bombed, nigger.

not shooting an escape pod because no lifeforms were detected

>>The sith are pretty evil
Not really. A few of them are just idiots. Most are pretty chill.

The secret of star wars is that the rebels/jedi are the bad guys.

They claim to fight for democracy and the galactic senate but everyone knows the jedi control the senate and send their light saber wielding thugs to ensure things go their way. Anakin admits this to Padme and calls it "aggressive negotiations".

Palpatine knew about the threat of the Yuuzhan Vong and and the corruption of the republic (hutt cartels, etc) and sought to take over the senate and form an Empire, building death stars so they could defend themselves against this threat.

>DUDE DEMOCRACY IS GOOD LMAO
Opinion discarded

The entire Naboo crisis happened because the Trade Federation didn't want to pay taxes to the republic anymore. Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi were sent to force them to make peace with Queen Amidala.

The Trade Federation responded by invading Naboo and declaring independence, kicking out their monarchy (Amidala) and presumably declaring a new independent republic. The jedi recruit Gungans to fight against the Trade Federation in the battle of Naboo and the monarchy is restored.

During the Clone Wars, the Grand Army of the Republic is entirely run by Jedi generals, allied with the Hutts, the same Hutts who ran slavery on Tatooine and on other planets. Queen Amidala, senator of Naboo and an influential member of the Republic's Loyalist Committee, the poster child of the Republic, is a puppet of and literally in bed with the Jedi.

Anakin should lost his mind because the Jedi were allied with those same hutts who were behind the system that kept him and his mother in bondage.

Quality argument

it's because the rebels were pretending to be civilians on a daily basis. it's like drone strikes in iraq or afghanistan.

reminder that Sheev got into power in a legal way

>That's like saying using bombers against Germany in WWII was evil.
No it's like saying placing hundred of thousands of nukes underneath Switzerland during WW2, because they were helping fund them, and then detonating them all at once so that you can't even live in Switzerland ever again because it's now a giant hole in the ground. There is such a thing a proportional or reasonable retaliation, and that definitely ain't it.

They want to put order in Nature.

They killed 6 million jews

It is good.

>You were the chosen one!
>You were supposed to bring balance to the force

He did. By destroying the Jedi. That's what Obi Wan never understood.

At least in the Republic all systems and species had equal representation in the senate.

This way no one species could just outbreed all the others and take control of the Republic like Mexicans are doing to American democracy

Pretty sure being the leader of the enemy movement is extremely illegal. Like execution illegal.

Yep
>Pre-purge: Tons of fucking Jedi, only a handful of Sith
>Post-purge: Handful of Jedi, handful of Sith

Really show how arrogant the Jedi are that when they hear about a prophecy about bringing balance to force means "Light side only, darkies get out"

The republic wasn't functioning because Sheev was the one driving the tensions up you fucking retard

so at the end of ROTJ, it's literally only Luke and Snoke making the force balanced?

The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

So the Empire puts the interests of all humans first, right? What's wrong with that?

There are no humans in star wars

Canonically yeah, but if you go by the EU there were a fair number of Jedi and Sith left after ROTJ.

No, the Jedi Order serve the balance of the Force not the Light Side. They serve at it's will they do not bend it like the Sith meaning they're not disrupting anything. Anakin was suppose to eradicate the Sith not the Jedi. The Force didn't plan on Anakin falling to the Dark Side and disrupting everything; it underestimated Palpatine. Eventually though, Anakin killed Sith and restored balance. Can't answer TFA because it fucked the lore up.

you mean the whole Darth Krayt nonsense?
I'm glad they purged all that shit

So what are they then?

The Republic also isn't functioning after Sheev is gone. Remember how in TFA the remnants of the Empire manage to presist for roughly two decades after Sheev's death and built a third Death Star without anybody noticing it? That's how incompentent the Republic is

Yeah, it's almost like the galaxy is very big or something

>What's wrong with that?
They're a government that rules over more than just humans. If they only ruled over human worlds it'd be fine, but they also have to rule over thousands of other species, and really they don't care about all humans, they mostly only care about core worlders, they do basically nothing to stop human slavery in the outer rim.

They were at all times guilty of staggering incompetence.

Why shouldn't they pay taxes nigger?
They're a private company not an independent planet

Luke IS the balance in the Force, he's uses both darkside powers and lightside to achieve his goals

he gave the order because he knew he'd be given control over the deathstar if he killed his competition

They be "Evil". Other than that, nothing anyone would go to war over.

Blowing up a planet full of civilians was pretty bad desu

>tfw no troop will ever experience the fun of hunting geonosians

Why even live?

Good riddance.

alderan was asking for it after attacking pearl harbor.

>This guy considers himself a "good guy"

>Genocide
>Slavery
>Speciesism
>Murdering civilians
>Various warcrimes and use of WMDs
The sad thing is that you're right.

how do people actually need to be told this?

Hmm okay. I don't see any problems with ruling over other shittier species desu. Anyway, the Rebels are pretty boring overall.

Literally where?

t. CIS scum

You guys didn't get the movies. The dark side is a cancer of the Force, it had to be cut out. That's what bringing balance meant.

This
When he said set course for Sariff it was pretty obvious he would take out Krennic and the Rebels at the same time "oops he got in the way"

Jedi don't understand the basic premise of Balance, it is known

t. Jedi apologist

Last night's thread wasn't enough for you OP?

>blew up two cities just to test a weapon
>one of those cities was 99% full of their own people
>blew up a planet just to piss off a senator
>enslaved entire planets
>rape-mined hundreds of planets to build a weapon
>came into existence because space hitler literally took control of the government
>won its previous war by using human clones
>its leaders routinely hunt down and murder people based on religion
>the poor worlds that it DOESN'T rape are turned into shitty police states

Yeah. Nothing wrong at all.

They're good boys that didn't even do anything. Stop it.

>ITT: people who think Dark Side = Sith

There are other dark side users than the Sith.

No, t. Lucas. It's literally how he made the movies. He made Vader and Sheev look like unnatural abominations for a reason.

They're all evil, and must be purged.

But why did the START. Don't bring up any of that EU bullshit, none of that Book trash, none of that gay TV horse piss.

Why did they start what?

I'll just assume a few things.

Why did they start...
>building a weapon and then blow up cities and planets?
To rule with an iron fist because their leader is space hitler
>enslaving and rape planets?
So they could build the aforementioned weapon
>taking control of the government?
So space hitler could achieve "unlimited power" (his own words)
>using human clones?
all part of space hitler's plans. the clones were purchased well before the start of the clone wars
>hunting and murdering based on religion?
Because hatred

Did that answer your question?

The rebellion

...

Why did they start the rebellion?

Because of the above mentioned slavery and oppression. And also people like Bail Organa knew that the Empire was space hitler.

The Empire started build the Death Star before the Rebellion was even a thing or do you not remember it showing up in episode 3? The weapon the Death Star uses was developed by the Geonosians in episode 2 where Dooku gives it to Sheev.

Even if there wasn't a rebellion there still would've been a Death Star.

None of the above happened in the movies

>what is the ending of Return of the Sith
The movie ends with palpatine revealing that he's a sith and taking over control of the government as their sole leader. Bail Organa started the rebellion because he knows this.

I'm sorry that you can't fill in the blanks and assume that there was some oppression between Episode 3 and Rogue One.

>Return of the Sith
>Return
whatever, you know what I mean.

>What did they ever actually do that was wrong
So nothing?

hmmmmm...

all the EU shit isn't canon anymore. next

>Alderaan
Are you dense?

>After the war started

literally all of that is still canon