Why is pepper spray illegal in the UK?

What the fuck is wrong with this country. If someone breaks into your house and you defend yourself then you can go to jail.

I've also read that carrying pepper spray is classed as carrying a firearm..the equivalent of going outside waving around a fucking ak-47 or other firearm. What kind of bullshit is this?

How can I kill 50 people with pepper spray? It's a spray for defensive purposes and one I would definitely give to my wife and kids to carry outside.

The "legal" option is a spray that shoots gel which only stains the attacker/rapist which makes him easily identifiable...how do I go about changing this shit? I've even thought about making my own pepper spray and carrying that but I don't fancy going to jail for 7 years for carrying it.

Keep in mind that criminals who carry knives around get lesser sentences. It's like the government and criminals have got together and decided that theyll fuck of joe public so they can both stay in business. Even though the police will turn up 15 mins after you're dead.

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Lol, I can use my AK for home defense.

This is a deadly weapon in the UK

I am honestly pissed of with this country. I'm even more pissed off with the cucked liberals who spout "if we make it legal then all the criminals will have them" not knowing that they're fucking criminals and will have them regardless.

Fuck it I'm moving to Ireland at least you can own a gun there.

They're super-easy to grow.

protip: don't touch your dick or your balls later, or else it might seem like it's funny.

double protip: if you touch your eye you're a gonner

Can't you just convert to Islam and then get away with literally anything because muh culture? Sory your country is so cucked

At least you're not an idiot like your countrymen

Get out of that shit hole before the Muslim horses instate sharia

and by the way if you're the kind of guy who uses contact lenses, just forget it. Your time is better spend jacking off to furry porn on 4chans.

Easy to grow but if I'm going down for a firearms offence I might as well carry a deagle. Seeing as both are classed as the same thing.

I don't want to leave as I've grown up here but sometimes I look at the stuff here and think what the fuck happened. Did I not notice any of this until now? and how?

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Nanny state lad, nanny state. Here girls carry mace/pepper spray on their keychains if they're paranoid.

>It's like the government and criminals have got together and decided that theyll fuck of joe public so they can both stay in business.

It's not 'like' they did this. They actually did this. Welcome to reality. You might be a libertarian soon.

>Fuck it I'm moving to Ireland at least you can own a gun there.
i think its hard as hell to get one there too

Does it still take weeks to get pepper spray in Germany?

I keked a lot when it was reported that you couldn't get it due to demand exceeding supply.

A change is needed but I fear we're already too far gone to actually have this change.

Is it ? I remember hearing that in Ireland they're allowed a lot more than the UK.

In all seriousness, from what I've heard it's not that much trouble to get a gun in the UK.

The trouble is what happens if you use it. Kind of like how I'm reluctant to use mine because I'll be paddling up shit creek with a backward shovel if I ever have to.

But if you need to defend yourself, there are plenty of ways to do that. Last time I had to review an active shooter video they said to throw chairs at the guy, and that seems like something even futbol hooligans can do if they're not so drunk they can't get it right.

Not sure, I think it's back in stock mostly. I've heard that all the ammo gets bought up tho.

Yea, that's probably the case. We will turn into south Africa eventually.

Britain, just like any country with monarchy/aristocracy, has always been and will be fucked. That's why we ditched you cunts. Come to America and enjoy freedom as a citizen instead of being a subject to a fucking crown like a faggot.

Come to America. Your accent will get you a decent job and lots of pussy.

It's not even about use here. If the police ever decide to raid my house for some reason and find it then I'm fucked for possession. My country is fucked beyond belief where if you're not a criminal or an official then it's open season on you.

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i just looked and you can get them easily it sounds but you have to have a reason other than self defence like joining a shooting club

How long does it take to get a visa? I'm skeptical to go to the US because of all the shit you're currently going through right now. I can just about deal with the niggers here, I can't imagine having to deal with the american ones.

Technically, the laws here could see me raided and never heard from again just on the suspicion of what I might have accidently typed in to the interweb.

But if they really want to push it, it'll be open season on somebody else whether I'm a part of that or already dead.

The rapist is too white.

This is what I mean. Rapists get out in a fucking year in most cases and other criminals aren't even serving much time.

No matter what I do I won't be able to uncuck this nation with proper self defence laws as this generation is full of cucks and liberals. The defense argument is that it could blind the attacker/rapist...They're worrying about the wellbeing of their fucking attacker/rapist!!!

Also how can pepper spray do serious harm? It cant blind someone at most for a few mins but thats it.

This isn't real. Is it?

Monarchies are top tier governments. Letting people vote is what retards do.

Because insinuating that you need more spices is insulting to indian-britarians.

duuude don't trust the jew media. Our visa system is all kinds of fucked up, but you could fit all of the UK several times over in just one state.

You want to live somewhere you'll never see a dark-skinned person and can walk around with guns? Take your pick. We have many of those.

I don't mind living in a somewhat more compromised area.

this shit better be fake

Yeah but you can't own a handgun or assault rifle. You also have to have random and frequent checks by the police to show that all ammunition is there and none has been removed as well as that it's secure in a vault ffs.

Am I gonna tell the burglar to wait 5 mins while I open all this shit to get my gun? this is bullshit.

Aren't you allowed to own guns though and don't all US citizens have the right to open carry??

I can see why it would be a good place to move desu. What states would these be?

I wouldn't mind moving to somewhere like canada either desu. Big enough for me not to have to deal with any of this shit either.

The specific laws depend on state and locality, and, generally speaking whether you want to open carry or not really comes down to cultural differences.

I personally can open carry all day long if I want to, but my personal decision is that I don't want to.

Well american police killed a few people with pepper spray. But they usually had some health issues before. Anyway it's much safer than fists or batons, look how they tranquillized this animal:
youtube.com/watch?v=-YmTdMW9uSQ

Come here illegally, brother.

Guess how it started? I actually don't know, but I'd imagine if began with banning bullets way back when, then moved to banning rifles, then pistols, then knifes, then bicycle wheels.
But it's okay the elite in UK can carry no problem.
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USAUSAUSAUSA, it's called Freedom, what your gov is called is tyranny, something our Father fought against from faggots like your people (not you doe you seem like you'd be a great American except we are full, fuck off)

Use oven cleaner instead of pepper spray then. It's much more painful than pepper spray and will permanently blind your attacker.

It honestly sounds like something they'd say seeing as all the immigrants coming here don't have pepper spray or cs spray laws. I've also heard of people going to france and buying some and coming back.

I'd say most Americans don't even know what things are like in different states. I haven't been to all of them myself, let along long enough to decide which one is the best to live in.

So what you do is look it up ahead of time and then come visit your best choices and see what you think. Same thing you'd have to do if you thought you wanted to move anywhere else in the world.

I guess open carrying would be stupid as it'd draw too much attention but then who's gonna mug/shoot the guy walking around with an ar-15?

I'm pretty sure for the most part that it isn't deadly. Also fuck these people if they're trying to rape a loved one or attack me. They get whats coming to them.

oy vey

>who's gonna mug/shoot the guy walking around with an ar-15?
Probably the sandy vaginas and the cops, and normal people will look the other way because you were being the equivalent of the 14 year old boy who just got his first car and riced it out.

But there are places where that's acceptable public behavior.

Don't worry lad, the CCTV camera will save your ass.

I wish but if your country is anything like mine then I'd be immediately kicked out and instead some rapefugee will take my place.

They banned guns after this incident.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre

I think they did. They completely banned all guns from that point I think. I used to think this country was great and that we could rely on the government for safety. Now I think that they don't want to keep us safe but they want to keep us under control.

Also looking back at that shooting. Anyone reckon false flag to get guns banned in the UK?

The UK bans anything which can spray noxious or poisonous gas and is classified as a firearm aka gun/rifle

Unfortunately it's not. Fuck this country. If Trump wins I will fucking consider moving to the US

>1996
>Literally the same year as the port arthur meme
False Flag guaranteed.

Welfare and feelings of minority are more important than your property or health you white privileged shitlord.

>The UK bans anything which can spray noxious or poisonous gas and is classified as a firearm aka gun/rifle
How do you do heavy duty cleaning, then? The gunk in an oven is bonded to the metal. Soap and water isn't going to take it off.

I always liked the thought of Texas desu. It may have a high population of mexicans but if they're anything like the spanish then it shouldn't be an issue.

But then I'm assuming carrying a holstered pistol wont cause to much of a fuss?

All in all the main thing is, can I use pepper spray/weapon in self defence when being attacked and not go to prison for 10 years for harming my attacker?

Shush. Let's not have them ban our effective cleaning agents.

this is all part of "the harrowing". im not going to explain but dont get to worried yet the ones who thought it up have made to many problems for themselves and are not gaining ground in other countries

Just buy pepper spray. While it is a firearm and whatever, I'd rather feel safe night after night with a potential of a fine, than feel unsafe and probably get fined if I attack my attacker anyway.

Yes it's actually illegal to defend yourself in this country. Not even kidding, you can go to jail for kicking the shit out of someone robbing you.

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Texas is super fucking hot and humid, and that's just the weather. I've never met a Texan I didn't like, but that's definitely a thing where you'd want to visit, even just to determine the right neighborhood.

A holstered pistol is a better choice. Sandy vaginas will grind at any opportunity, but if everybody else sees that you know what you're doing then they won't get upset. Key point is to know what you're doing.

The whole report seems sketchy and the emphasis on the "four legally owned handguns" is also a throw off.

I think they meant in terms of being used for defence purposes.

You think that's bad? A diagnosed actual retard (IQ of like 70 or something) managed to get a better kill to injury ratio than any SWAT or retired SF guy they could put through a scenario like the cafe.

As well, he had access to thermal vision or fucking something, because he was able to pick out the locations of police snipers and police officers in the dead of night.

>fine

You do realise it's classed as a firearm right. That means you're going down for 4 years at the least, if not 7.

France's carrying law are exactly the same as what you've described for the UK. This ad must be fake, it would be to retarded for it to be real.

I personally would encourage you to carry a small bottle of pepper gel anyway. You might be able to convince any police that catch you with it if you pretend you are Jewish and victim of antisemitism in your neighbourhood.

this

i carry a baton and pepper spray with me at all times
who cares about a fine when your cute butthole remains unraped by muslims?

you mean an AR15

I think I'd enjoy texas if not for the atmosphere desu but apart from that, I can't think of any other places.

I wanted to go to sweden before all this bullshit as it was actually a nice place I've heard.

Either that's american training or something fishy,

IMO it was a false flag done by a special forces soldier, probably SASR.

A can of engine degrease will drop anyone faster than a can of pepper spray. even disinfectant will work, it's mostly alcohol and burns like satans nutsack if you get any in your eyes.

Yeah but you wont get thrown into jail whereas we will in the UK.

There is no possibility for just a fine. They take a "firearms offence" very seriously and will have to go to court. And if you're not a criminal then the court won't look to favourably on you nd will send you down.

I'm more of a cold person myself. Plenty of cold states that like their guns just as much as Texas does, but with less swagger.

Now you're thinking like a white person. Not that I would ever condone any such thing.

Also raises the question

Is protecting yourself a right or a privilege ?

dude that's what I was saying, he set a k/d record
well.. unless you count 9/11

>using an radical murder assault rifle with un-pinned 30 round clips for home defense

What a retard

It's obviously a right

I guess if you keep it in your car then you'd have a reason for carrying it but still. If you use anything in this country as a weapon for self defence they can fuck you.

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Never leave the house without it. Have a lot of confidence walking around alone at night. Hope I never have to use it. But I am prepared to spray the moment a darkie even thinks about making eye contact after dark.

Come to North Carolina
We are better than texas as too much heat causes insanity ask Australia.
To avoid dindus move to the mountain areas less gibs less nigs. We have southern culture and are nigs don't chimp out

well here in burger-stan if you're a felon you're not allowed to wear body armor anymore, I guess so cops can kill you faster if you fuck up

>Is protecting yourself a right or a privilege ?
Very important question, and something to know before you arm yourself.

In my particular locality, the laws were somewhat recently changed back to where you can protect yourself. That's how I understood state law in the first place, so, basically it was just a matter of saying no to the literally gun grabbing Jews.

it could hurt someone

had a hard time deciding on home defense options after the apex gang savages doing home invasions (beatings and rapes) recently.
apparently pepper spray and tasers are illegal and banned even for home defense here...
what is the alternative?, i cant find any info on official australian gov websites...
this is really confusing.. surely you arent just supposed to lie down and die.
this seems like a human rights violation.

After Brexit you must push for a reinstatement of Magna Carta and negative rights.
You guys need some latter day Mel Gibson to Braveheart up the story of the Glorious Revolution, in which the last Catholic king orders the army to massacre his people, the army looks out over masses of arms-bearing marksmen who have been practicing from childhood, and decides they did not hear the order.

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Bin That Spray!

It did just go past it's expiration date...

No way this is real.

hey german guy

I'm curious about firearm possession and whatnot in germany, is it like most of europe or is it different considering that germany has firearm manufacturers.

>this seems like a human rights violation
Indeed. Defending yourself from rape and murder violates the rights of the rapists and murderers who are probably People of Color and thus not responsible for their bad behavior.

lel

That's a magazine not a clip
>what a retard

also this is my home defense weapon
it's considered the same category as a sawed off shotgun in CA

So if I ever use it I'll make it look like I fought it out of his hands and used it
"The bad man broke into my house with the illegal gun! I would never break the law"

>north carolina better than texas

nigga plz

I'd adapt better to a colder state and the move would be easier for me. I'll have to experience a few states I guess.

Do your girls have that adorable southern accent? I don't know why I like that accent but it just seems innocent I guess compared to the slags over here.

If someone breaks into your house, you should have the legal (and already do possess) the providencial imperative to drag out your saiga 12 and sing the song of your people into the four swarthy chaps intruding on your efukt marathon.

Of course not. I would never use garage solvents on the thug that broke into my house to steal my shit and bash me or rape the wife and kids.
And id definitely never beat them to death and stuff them down a storm drain either.

Yes they do and it is adorable when you find one
They call themselves southern bells or what not close to the mountains the thicker it gets.

This is always in the fine print when you disarm the population.

That's actually a good idea.

That's one of the things I respect about the US. I also like how you all haven't become liberal and cucked like all the other western countries.

Mountain accents best accents. That shit makes me diamonds.

>tfw when georgia girl marries into the family
>but I don't get it why do you talk like us
>because northerners look down on me
;_;

>move to US
>send an anti-gun to UK

I'll take that trade

It's really a can of spray on anal lube in case he has to legally assist Faruq or Abdul in the enrichment of an underage schoolgirl.

If you're scared about being arrested for using a weapon it's better than being dead for not having one. As long as you don't look and act like a degenerate the police aren't going to search you. I've never been searched by police in my life even when I was younger and now that I'm almost 30 it's going to be even less likely to ever happen. I'm respectful to police and appreciate the job they do. When police search people it's always the kind of people the should be search. I've seen police do searches of people they pull over into gas stations and you can just tell they they deserve it. It's not like they're going to turn granny's car inside out looking for drugs.