This is the only good studio release Black Flag ever had. I really don't understand why they're considered so iconic...

This is the only good studio release Black Flag ever had. I really don't understand why they're considered so iconic. There's so many other punk bands from the time that were way more innovative and interesting. The best thing about Black Flag is that it led to SST, which published countless bands more talented than Black Flag

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>I really don't understand why they're considered so iconic
Purely because Henry is such a character. No one actually enjoys the vast majority of their releases

You're wrong but continue to think you're right while people laugh in your wake through life.

>takes Black Flag seriously
>thinks he's not the one being laughed at

Ok bud

This is great tho

why do some people legit think Rollins was the best Black Flag singer? Anyway who really cares, right?

Damaged [SSI, 1981]

Although the B side drags more painfully than I bet was intended, this is powerful stuff. Greg Ginn is the greatest noise guitarist since Johnny Thunders, new vocalist Henry Rollins can snarl along any tortured contour they serve up, and "Rise Above," "Six Pack," and the uproarious "TV Party" prove they can write songs as well as gnash fragments. Inspirational Verse: "I wanna live/I wish I was dead." A-

Because he's the only thing normies know about Black Flag. He's the entire reason Black Flag is even famous, for better or worse.

My War and Slip It In are better albums.

Theyre fucking hot garbage. They have maybe 2 listenable tracks each

lal look at me I mentioned a guy who was in the New York Dolls XD

Side B of My War you dummy is the onky good Rollins material. Everything else is garbage (tbqh I kinda like Slip It In even thougg it has some filler on it)

do you want the family man or the swingin man

neither please

>Side B of My War you dummy is the onky good Rollins material

>t. Stupid faggot
Slip It In is easily their best album

Itt:
>x album is bad!
>no its not, youre dumb!
rinse, repeat

Saying a viable piece of art is their best is different to calling every thing shit in broadstrokes. I will never understand shitting on what people like and acting like you've cracked the code and everyone is stupid but you. It's so fucking pointless. I may not like The Red Hot Chilli Peppers but I can appreciate them and understand how someone could love them.

Saying you dont like something is as completely valid as saying you like something. No one here is acting like they "cracked a code" besides you.

>that were way more innovative
aha sure

Side B of my war is unironically great

I'm pretty sure most of their reputation hinged on their live performance, both Greg and Henry have said so in varying interviews. Their first 4 EPs are all great, and I like the Process of Weeding out and the first half of inside my head.

Underage faggot

i mean i like OFF more

Youre grasping at straws now. SAD!

what about like the eps and stuff with keith and dez

What ever mutt

DUDE WHEN I'M RIGHT EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG LMAO MY CULTURE IS A TRASH INCUBATOR POISONING THE WORLD LMAO

>says two opinions are equally valid
>somehoe inteprets this as saying "IM RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG"
Wow, youre pretty fucking dumb huh? Is this the average intelligence of a black flag fan?

>mutt
Better than being a tasteless faggot who's easily triggered by dissenting opinions

Mutt

You could say the same about pic related.

Camper Van Beethoven is not an "iconic band". I dont see the relation to this thread desu

>guys let me fill you in on the meta nature of Sup Forums politics. Rinse and repeat am I right, I'm super smart unlike this person who is not super smart, hold on let me smell this fart

>hurr durr muh pure white genetics!
Go back to your containment board please

Mutt

>tries to insult someone for making meta narrative on Sup Forums arguments while himself making a meta narrative
>recycling old south parks gag like it's his own
Im just embarassed for you

The Process Of Weeding Out is their best, but Saccharine Trust did late-BF so much better

You're right, I was wrong. There can only be one clear victor here. You win user. Nothing is lost on you. I bet you're super buff too bro.

I have a soft spot for Family Man for whatever reason

>Im so morally superior and above this petty Sup Forums argument! I gonna pretend to be a bigger man by backing out after already participating in the argument!
Sorry user, youre already a huge faggot. Your fake ass high road only makes it worse

>Camper Van Beethoven is not an "iconic band"
Some people consider them iconic for some reason.

No im being serious man. Don't be so modest.

First Four Years is superior anyway.

Keith was horrible

PROBLEMS I DONT WANNA FACE
RUUUUUUN OUT OF THIS PLACE

dude, MY WAR is an edgy masterpiece. both sides are great

>literally created emo
youtube.com/watch?v=tyHMseaLy88

this fits any definition of emocore

Well first of all, you're a Henry hater so nothing you say holds water.

Black Flag NEVER put out a bad record!
Side two of My War was one of the first punk albums to mix Black Sabbath style doom metal with punk. Slip It In has always lifted my spirits when I was at my lowest. Henry proved what a great poet he was/is on Family Man while Greg Ginn proved what a prolific guitar player he was is on the instrumental tracks. So much so that they released an instrumental only album called The Process of Weeding Out. Great guitar work on that. And there's the last two book end albums Loose Nut, and In My Head which rocks out just as hard and just as good as any AC/DC album.

Ah, but don't feel bad. Pic posted is a Black Flag album which you might just consider just as good if not better than Damaged.

You might also like Everything Went Black which are early demos and rough mixes for Damaged featuring the first three singers before Henry.

But even Henry said that pic posted is his favorite Black Flag album, and he's not even on it.

See

It's pretty good, I just wish they'd officially release the 1982 demos for what was to be their second album before the lawsuit fucked everything up. Has better performances of "My War" and "Slip It In". Just want the recordings with out the annoying hiss.

I think they did.

Nervous Breakdown is still the best

Shitty overrated band that teenagers pretend to like to seem edgy, not hard to understand why they're considered ""iconic""

nah, First Four Years is seminal Early American Hardcore. The B-side of My War gave Black Flag a legacy comparable to Minor Threat and Bad Brains, just not necessarily in hardcore.

>tfw all the black flag albums are amazing

They really are and Keith and dez suck because black flag had to change their sound. With Henry they went from happy punk rock almost pop punk, to mental asylum proto metal

For serious.

If you were going back in the hottub time machine to see black flag youd have to go with henry

>countless bands more talented

Fucking leled, nice b8

Name a punk rock guitarist better than Greg Ginn.

>protip:
You cant

>it's not my imagination
>I got a gun in my back
It's not because early hardcore doesn't go chugga chugga that it's happy.

Just stick to Mac Demarco bro. Hardcore Punk isn't for wimps.

Are you fucking serious? D boon

It's because of Henry, and the marketability of their name/logo.

Where did i say i dont like Hardcore Punk? Read my fucking post again, I said I love most of the other SST bands way more than Black Fag. I get it though, BF is a magnet for edgy highschool kids, so youll grow out it eventually

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posting bc i think In My Head is underrated.

>he actually thinks Black Flag is better than Minutmen, Husker Du, Sonic Youth, and Meat Puppets
Take a look everyone. This is what someone who listens to Black Flag actually believes

Stephen Egerton

You sound like a wimp that thinks Rancid is hardcore. Foh plebby wimp. Black Flag is great you just can't into their material. Only their more popular record is what you like. It's a damn shame kiddo. Off yourself

>thinks Rancid is an SST band
Oh youre just fucking retarded...

Lmaoing @ur lyfe rn. Stick to Boy Pablo.

black flag is really formulaic and shit for the most part but My War is one of my favorite punk records ever

Bad Brains, The Germs, Flipper, Saccharine Trust, Cro Mags, Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat

All vastly superior to Black Flag

All great bands indeed. Vastly superior? That's your opinion.

Why are Black Flaggots so easily upset? Is it from frustation of not bening able to form a coherent argument?

OK Nu-wimp, pretend to like hardcore. Ya posing wimp

Im not pretending anything. I like hardocre, but its far from the only genre I listen to, and I dont identify strongly with it

You on the other hand, are oozing of try hardness. You think youre hardcore and yet youre arguing on fucking Sup Forums of all places. You wouldve gotten your faggoty ass beat if you went to punk shows back in the day lmao

this is probably bait but i'll bite. how the fuck do you think this is good and don't like the previous eps? why the fuck do you think my war didnt helped pave a new type of sound for hardcore? also, black flag influenced a lot of bands and thats probably why theyre so iconic

D boon is nowhere near Greg Ginn levels

>thinking boring ass meat puppets or sonic youth is better than black flag

Off yourself soyboy

>thinks meat puppets are boring
Black Flag is the epitome of derivative boring trash. God forbid a band try anything new

Quit projecting faggot. bet you only went to a hardcore show once and got hit and started to cry. Just stick to Mac Demarco wimp

t. soyboy

>says im projecting
>needs to constantly talk about mac demarco despite no one else has mentioned him once

>not realizing Henry Rollins is the ultimate soyboy libcuck

because I know you're one of those little faggits that listen to him and other gay acts like him. Stay away from punk wimp. No one wants you polluting the genre with faggotry. We already have enough faggots.

Troo but the compositions are filthy. I only retarded riffs bruhzum

This guy has never seen a punk show

I have. Most are full of fucking faggits nowadays. It's a shame

>try something new

That's your argument, as if I like them because theyre surface level. Classic projection right there.

I bet you don't even like the meat puppets or sonic soy. Drop your 10 favorite songs right now from them

MYYYY WAAAAARRR

The best Rollins song

After a rancorous three-year legal battle with their label Unicorn, which prevented them from releasing any new material, Black Flag binged in the mid-'80s, releasing a flurry of records that had even the most devoted fans scrambling to keep up. They did, however, start this period somewhat inauspiciously with My War, a pretentious mess of a record with a totally worthless second side. Featuring three tracks of slower-than-Black Sabbath muck with Henry Rollins howling like a caged animal, it was self-indulgence masquerading as inspiration and about as much fun as wading through a tar pit.

>The best Rollins song
>Not Slip It In

>hurr durr she was asking to be raped!

You regret how you felt..

You felt it...

YOU TRIED TO BE ALL LOOSE

ITS WHAT YOU CHOOSE