>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
>/lit/ enjoys challenging works of literature
>Sup Forums shits on challenging music, saying that it's "pretentious" or "masturbatory"
what's the deal with this? it seems like people on Sup Forums unironically enjoy Kanye and Lil Pump more than real innovative genius artists like Stockhausen or Schoenberg.
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>>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
kek
>Stockhausen or Schoenberg
baby's first classical
listening to Kanye is more fun than listening to Stockhausen or Schoenberg
sorry I like to enjoy things instead of force myself to listen to boring ass shit
>Sup Forums is shit
w h o d a t h u n k i t ?
in all honesty, is why. you cant really engage with music the same way you can with literature or video games.
You’re telling me people prefer listening to what they like instead of listening to obscure and/or “sounds bad on purpose” bullshit?
Wowie would’ve never found out on my own thanks.
>you cant really engage with music the same way you can with literature
lol
Sup Forums is the youngest and normiest board on the site, also /lit/ is the same audience as Sup Forums they're just being pseuds
Sup Forums Sup Forums and Sup Forums are mostly social outcasts so it makes sense they're more contrarian and elitist
I'd agree with you since a lot of good music is disregarded as "pretentious wankery" ... but stuff like Stockhausen is just not enjoyable to listen to. I'm sorry.
Sup Forums is full of whiggers and nu-males
>Sup Forums is full of rightwing people
>/lit/ is full of rightwing people
>Sup Forums is sjw heaven
really makes you think
How about Sup Forums?
>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
Every fighting game thread proves this statement wrong.
Sup Forums is full of children who haven't tried listening to anything other than their shitty pop music and never go out of their autistic comfort zone because they have literally no fucking taste and have a two minute attention span.
People on here live in a bubble and have no fucking clue that art and traditional music has been happening for hundreds of years. They literally consume the fast food of music - good at first but cancerous in the long run.
Nobody on here has any actual clue how to TALK MUSIC. They use impressionistic bullshit descriptors and their limited vocabulary and if somebody tries to communicate like a normal fucking person and/or professional they will get shunned and mocked because these fuckers are offended when they find out that somebody else actually puts time and effort into understanding something they themselves are supposedly so passionate about.
Exquisite political commentary, user.
What you autistic robots don't get is that there are social aspects to music.
>>/lit/ is full of rightwing people
Sup Forums is weird because they don't take themselves serious, so you got threads about "serious" directors Eisenstein or Kurosawa (also remember the whole "kino" meme came from a Dziga Vertov movie) along with marvel flicks/capeshit and e-celeb drama
only the shitty music
Cool b8 senpai
this
yeah, as in people form social bonds with others that like the same kind of music, what's your point? that it's worthwhile to pretend to like music you don't actually like just for the social bonds? that it's worthwhile to convince yourself bad music is good because people you want to be friends with like it (or at least act like they do)?
go ask /qa/
video games are challenging because most their fans are mentally challenged
>>/lit/ is full of rightwing people
(not true, btw)
if anything /lit/ is more liberal than Sup Forums
>fuck Sup Forums has no downvote option for me to express my disagreement towards statements that trigger me and I'm too much of a brainless retard to write actual retorts
>I know I'll just call everything that annoys me b8 that will show'em
>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
lol.
Sincerely, /vr/.
t. shitty pop music consumer plebeian
nice b8, famalamabam
I cringe every time I see somebody mention video games and literature in the same breath.
>implying libs are leftwing
>famalamabam
literally 12
lol
Do you have any weird type of aspergers?
t. absolute pseud
>video
>fucking
>games
Get away from me, manchildren. I bet you masturbate to Japanese animated shows.
i'd put them on about the same level, i find just listening to music or just reading a book with nothing else a little dry after an hour or so unless it's some truly incredible shit. i'd say i rarely read without music on, and i rarely have music on without a book or browsing the internet.
this may have something to do with my adhd but oh well, i still read a ton and listen to 3 or so new albums a week so i don't feel like im missing out even though i'm not focusing 100% of my attention on the one thing
Music must be the most boring and lazy nigger attracter than any other art. Just sit there and literally just listen to sounds. There nothing you can accomplish beside downloading and rating it on RYM. Theres even people like your pic relate who make money saying the most vanal and autistic things. Its a subjetive thing its an objetive thing, who knows.
But at least we are all atheist.
t. an absolute pseud denied his trips
most of the poptimist shit on Sup Forums is very obviously ironic shitposting except such shitposting allows genuine retards to feel like they're at home and also ironic shitposting hasn't been witty or interesting ever since normies on twitter and facebook got a hold of it hence it's safe to assume all ironic shitposters nowadays are just underage or said genuine retards masquerading their inane behaviour with """""""""""""""""erudite""""""""""""""""" irony
Hell yeah I do
what is there to "understand" about music? you can read words on a page or press buttons on a screen but the only way you can engage with lit or video games is by understanding the ideas or puzzles. it seems that music is a type of media where the first part of engagement( listening similar to reading words/pressing buttons) is not affected by the "understanding" because it can not be placed into words or images.
There's nothing inaccurate about what he said though
LOL
you treat music as media instead of art
says it all really
...
The absolute worst board on this website. It’s just a fucking dumping ground for Sup Forums. They don’t actually give a shit about cinema.
Good bait
Doesn't make him any less of an autist
Is being an autist really that much worse than beeing a mouthbreathing normie?
Yes
Ok normie
you're not entirely wrong, i think you're overselling it a little tho with regards to Sup Forums in particular. at least most Sup Forumsfags have tried a fair bit of indie and alt music even if it is still all modern, and have generally listened to a lot of the bands/artists/albums that are considered really seminal and influential but don't have any real presence in the public consciousness. by that i mean shit on the fame and reputation level of, say, pixies or j dilla, or like nmh, like still really famous but only among people who care about music. i do agree though, most modern music is much easier to consume than classical and tends to be more immediate
that being said, your comment was still basically the most pretentious thing i've ever read.
>Sup Forums only listens to pop
this is retarded if you just look at the first line of the catalog at literally any time
>people have no clue art and trad music has been happening
you really think people don't know classical music exists??
>they use impressionistic bullshit descriptors
i hate to say it, like sure you can dig into musical theory or whatever and i studied music at school, but at the end of the day ALL music is just impressionistic bullshit. it's just sounds in a pattern that make you feel a certain way. when you're describing music you're not describing the pure mechanical breakdown of the sounds and rhythms, you're describing how those things make you feel. because music is subjective art, a dry, technical description of a piece can't tell me anything about how it's gonna make me feel unless i've heard something like it before to relate it to, so yes in conversations about music between non-scholars, impressionism is the only honest and meaningful way to go about it
tl;dr you're almost right, but you're also a pretentious twat
he's that "art/pop/trad" trichotomy memer, don't pay his definitions much mind
I disagree. I think it's a fine board, and mods never let Sup Forums threads stay up for long. I'm curious, what's some good cinema? which directors do you think should be discussed more?
>he's that "art/pop/trad" trichotomy memer
this meme has existed for almost a thousand years
>Sup Forums shits on challenging music, saying that it's "pretentious" or "masturbatory"
since when? the only real contempt I see around here is for rap, every other genre is praised when something experimental comes out
>/lit/ enjoys challenging works of literature
t. someone who's never actually spent more than 5 minutes on /lit/
at least on Sup Forums people have generally listened to the albums they're shitting on
sure, if by listened to you mean heard portions of one single from a different album the band released
>hiphop infant persecution complex
>at least on Sup Forums people have generally listened to the albums they're shitting on
*passively while shitposting on Sup Forums
nah I don't really like hiphop much at all, it's just the genre that gets the most hate besides occasionally metalfags
>>Sup Forums enjoys ... video games
Stopped reading there.
lol
>Sup Forums is the youngest and normiest board on the site
Wrong.
>Sup Forums Sup Forums and Sup Forums
>contrarian and elitist
You sure about that, buddy?
Same as every board.
Well that’s because what/mu/ considers to be challenging is actually vapid, objectively terrible shit like Merzbow
I think Sup Forums‘s actual challenge is just to branch out into different genres and artists as possible. Except for shit like merzbow
I cannot stress this enough. If you like merzbow, you are merely pretending and fucking kill yourself
the most popular genre on here is literal pop music, what do you expect?
"indie and alt" are pop music you dunce
They aren't. They are popular music, not pop.
You dunce.
>and mods never let Sup Forums threads stay up for long
lmao i've seen them reach bump limit and get archived, or get pruned but after 200 replies or so.
it's by far the interest board that got hit the worst by Sup Forums's popularity
>Sup Forums enjoys pretending to be superior to other or to a norm
>/lit/ enjoys pretending to be superior to other or to a norm
>Sup Forums enjoys pretending to be superior to other or to a norm
I think you got memed m8, either that or he's a literal retard. I haven't seen Sup Forums without at least 10 active Sup Forums threads all hitting bump limit for years. Right now there's a trump thread with over 250 posts, a bunch of anti-feminist threads, a bunch of "Aziz Dindu Nuthin" threads etc. It's Sup Forums in the weak guise of things being vaguely celebrity or uh, Star Wars related, the idea that it's even a TV & film board is laughable. Sup Forumstants complain but they don't know how good we have it.
It's a superficial interest for most. How can you really be proud of having heard something? Only losers who don't create really act like that. To feel apart of the art I'd guess.
when i say indie and alt i'm not talking about the """genres""" as itunes defines them, i'm talking about the more different and experimental music from within a given genre eg alt hiphop, alt funk shit like that. i don't just mean like radiohead and arctic monkeys are alt and indie
>/lit/ enjoys challenging works of literature
Infinite Jest isn't challenging
everyone on this Vietnamese rice-making forum shits on everything what in the flying fuck are you on about, Sup Forums is not one person.
>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
Sup Forums doesn't even enjoy video games, just have a look at their catalog.
This dude is either :
>I listen to only 3 classical composer all of other music is degenerate
Or
>I only listen to conceptual music who comes to maturation as my peers disapproves it more and more
Could also be :
>Every body irl thinks my taste sucks but I'm relevant on Sup Forums because usual Sup Forumstant is underage.
i wish there were less stockhausens and more folks like bruce haack or raymond scott. isn't there plenty of serious eai shit already?
That's because so called "challenging" and "sophisticated" music is literally the most soy shit out there.
You're out here playing the assumption game, meanwhile its obvious you don't know shit because it hurts. Go read a comp text, user. You can't bully your stupidity in the long run.
Listened to Stockhausen for 30 seconds. That's literally just noise with classical instruments. I listen to primarily video game music.
>/lit/ is full of rightwing people
No user they read there
this "soy" meme can't die soon enough
>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
>Sup Forums enjoys video games
>Sup Forums enjoys
Are we talking about the same board?
/thread
You like to enjoy an artist who calls himself "God" and a "Genius" and release shit albums.
Reconsider your music tastes user
>engaging with art for "fun"
and people wonder why this board is shit
Who gives a shit, some of his music is good, I don't really care what he says
>Listening music
>Furthermore Hip-Hop
>Don't care about what the artist says
really nigga
I listen to everything.
>except rap and country
>I listen to rap though
>>Sup Forums enjoys challenging video games
The only thing they enjoy is calling other people soyboys and consolfagging.
>challenging music
>this is retarded if you just look at the first line of the catalog at literally any time
It's pop music. Indie rock is pop. I was talking about popular music, not necessarily as a genre.
>you really think people don't know classical music exists??
No. I actually don't. They know Fur Elise or some shit like that but that's about it. And they only listen to common practice period if anything or some 20th century minimalist bullshit. And I'm not only talking about classical music. I'm talking about ANY art music and ANY traditional music. There's a whole planet of music yet people are only listening to some polished Western turd that's about 60 years old.
>i hate to say it, like sure you can dig into musical theory or whatever and i studied music at school, but at the end of the day ALL music is just impressionistic bullshit. it's just sounds in a pattern that make you feel a certain way. when you're describing music you're not describing the pure mechanical breakdown of the sounds and rhythms, you're describing how those things make you feel. because music is subjective art, a dry, technical description of a piece can't tell me anything about how it's gonna make me feel unless i've heard something like it before to relate it to, so yes in conversations about music between non-scholars, impressionism is the only honest and meaningful way to go about it
I realise this, but the problem I have with people here is that they act special and elitist when in reality they haven't got a fucking clue. It's always the same fucking threads and it's sad when people are supposedly passionate about music and they only know a tiny tiny tiny tiny fraction of it and can't even express it properly and at the same time being extremely elitist about it when the fact of the matter is they aren't better at it than the next random "normie" on the street.
>tl;dr you're almost right, but you're also a pretentious twat
At least I'm honest.
How can a song challenge you?
This is rich. Probably coming from somebody who listens exclusively to 3 minute entertainment bloops being excuses for songs.
You haven't answered my question.
Sup Forums doesn't play video games. That's why I stopped posting there.
Literally read anything about philosophy, aesthetics etc. in music and music in general as a tool of expression and art form. I'm sure a simple motif being repeated next to a 808 drum beat can't exactly be stimulating your mind much.
Why do you keep trying to (mistakenly) guess my music taste?
I've listened to many kinds of music and nothing has challenged me.
Perhaps it's my defition of "challenge" or the way I am.
How would you define challenge actually