Jazz sucks

Jazz sucks.
Listen to Mozart and Bach instead. Their better for you.

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>Their better for you.

> their
Typical non-jazz listener

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Jazz doesn't suck, this album does though.

Real talk. THis album is overrated as FUCk literally give me at least 3 (three) reasons why this album is special at all compared to any other supposedly inferior jazz album

>There! Better for you.

a love suprem a love suprem

I listen to both

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New post-rock band?

There’s that word again “overrated.” You guys clearly can’t come up with valid criticisms so you just throw buzzwords around to make your points. Pathetic.

>muh changes

Nah, jazz is far more interesting harmonically while still maintaining meaning with the harmonic progression unlike classical music that needs to divorce itself from meaningful harmonic progression to attain similar or more complex levels of harmony.
This album's got excellent flow that definitely makes it different from it's peers. Unlike many other jazz albums it's four pieces that are part of a greater whole rather than just being different pieces that just do things differently. Coltrane was inspired by spiritual journeys and preachers with how the playing goes here. And it shows with how the thing flows, cuz it has

1. Rhythmic and dynamic flow.
2. Melodic/harmonic flow
3. The sorta story that kinda develops as a result

The album starts off playing the main phrase in a bunch of different keys of which Coltrane plays the pentatonic scale of. Here the playing is based in like how Preachers do their thing in church, so it's all very lyrical with appropriate pauses within Coltrane's playing, with subtle note by note change in dynamics, too. This part is closest to modal jazz because of how the direction of where the "modulation" of the main line happens is derived.

Then the second part in the first few seconds may seem like the first, but it's actually transitioning into something completely different. The choice of notes here is far more chromatic rather than sticking to a particular scale, and the rhythms get far more erratic, too. This part is the most chaotic part of the album, and most closely resembles free jazz.

The third part has a variation of the main phrase you hear in the first part, but also has the faster pace of the second part though it's more confident than it is chaotic. Most of this track has the piano/bassist in one key and Coltrane in another, so it's got this conflicting thing happening. It's most similar to Dave Brubeck style polytonality, but with a Coltrane bent on it.

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americans are conditioned to react with violent euphoria to anything that even vaguely hints at the abrahamic god in a positive manner

>listening to classical on headphones/devices
>not at an actual concert hall

Found the huge plebeian.

Oh yeah, because we all live down the bloc from a fucking concert hall and opera house.

but no one can properly replicate coltrane

The last part doesn't really have a jazz style it's that close to because it sounds like a jazzy version of how there's that church chanting stuff idk what it's called. As a result it doesn't move as much all over the place like the other parts do. It's laid back, serene, even doesn't fully adhere to tempo. Since everyone kinda sticks together here, it's got a much larger than life sound to it compared to the other pieces since Coltrane was tryna evoke a "ayyy God is the GOAT dude" feel here.

You'll find a lot of jazz that will be like "I'll focus on this particular technique or approach and just work with it for this album." Coltrane's approach was to make a four part suite called A Love Supreme, but each part takes a completely different approach from the one before yet it all flows together due to fantastic transitions and the main 3 pitch/4 note line. He used everything he knew about jazz or was going on in jazz at the time to do storytelling with distinct parts in the story. This is where jazz excels the most: when you use all sorts of different techniques through slight composition and improvisation to create a cohesive whole. The only two albums that come to mind that are similar in jazz are Mingus Ah Um, which has every track do a different style but isn't a cohesive whole, and Black Saint And The Sinner Lady, which has a great cohesive whole but it follows just one way to do things.

youre dumb as shit lol

>user doesn't
Pathetic.

>inb4 this user gets shat all over for using theory to articulate his point

itt: retards

You’re

Classical is EDM for rich people. Nothing but ascending and descending.

>Black Saint And The Sinner Lady, which has a great cohesive

very limited amount of improvisation with non-existent amounts of melodic/harmonic development to make up for it
simplified grooves that take away any of the more subtle/dynamic aspects of jazz drumming (even though many examples in jazz show you can have both)
large arrangement that weaves in parts like a first year music school kiddie
a "variety" of different parts that play too close together instead of being more syncopated, thus not being taken full advantage of to create dance rhythms nor actual depth/complexity

It's literally outdated (even at the time), cliche dance music with no depth. The 60s equivalent of The Epic but not as bloated. Note how this album wasn't even that highly acclaimed when it came out; Downbeat gave it a 4/5 when just about any relatively decent record can nab a 5/5 from them (so don't give "le most acclaimed" garbage either). The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady didn't get praise until later by people who hadn't listened to more than a handful of jazz records and were too casual to fully digest the more intricate improvisations in real jazz music but also couldn't handle the depth in compositions of classical music.

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Gregorian Chant is what I think you’re talking about. thank you immensely for taking the time to write all this out. newfound appreciation the next time I listen to it

I also think this is a bit overrated but, Elvin Jones is on this album. Therefore it is already better than most albums you could name.

WOW LMAO

What about Bill Evans? I love piano jazz chords.

Better yet... Ryo Kawasaki... ahead of its time maybe