Mfw Sup Forums is delusional enough to believe a bunch of autists with AR-15s have any chance of overthrowing a...

>mfw Sup Forums is delusional enough to believe a bunch of autists with AR-15s have any chance of overthrowing a government with tanks, drones, and fucking nukes
Not saying this means we should let libs take all our guns, but enough with the revolution fetish

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It's not that simple. The military is made up of a majority of people who would refuse to turn on their own citizens.

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>mfw vietnamese is delusional enough to believe a bunch of rice farmers with AK47s have any chance of overthrowing a government with tanks, and fucking nukes

Obligatory.

This again. The government isn't going to destroy its own infrastructure/buildings with tanks or aerial attacks.

Also, the military wouldn't attack their own people. They are the people. Telling a soldier to attack Americans means attacking their mothers fathers sisters brothers and so on.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Tanks? Nukes? Are you retarded?

>mfw New England colonists are delusional enough to believe a bunch of settlers with muskets have any chance of overthrowing a kingdom with ships, cannons and elite soldiers

Not saying this means we should let the King just tax us to hell and back, but enough with the independence fetish

I should have edited it more, but you get the idea

Look at modern conflict's alot of aircraft and tanks are rendered obsolete. Asymmetrical warfare is mostly infantry based, your argument fails.

You willing to die at a rate 10 to 1 in order to win? Because that's what the North Vietnamese did.
Fuckers were probably the most hardcore infantrymen of the 20th century. You assclowns don't have the stomach to do what it takes.

>tanks being used on it's own people

It won't get that far.

Some shillbots are delusional enough to think you stand better chances against drones and tanks armed with just your bare fists.

There is only one possible solution to this:
GIVE CITIZENS TANKS AND FIGHTER PLANES!

And then you realize that all it would take is .5% of the US population to rebel, and the US would need a foreign power to intervene. 1 half of 1 percent the US population is larger than the standing military of the US by a factor of 2

>rifle
>working class
>democracy
t. Aldous G. Huxley-Well

if you're not willing to risk death defending yourself and your family then you're a worthless piece of shit. what the fuck is wrong with you?

Better to die with a rifle in hand than a slave.

The second doesn't mean that you will win. It just gives you the chance to fight back.

Nah, the bunch of autists will overthrow the gubment by draining it dry via neetbux. Once the socialists run out of other people's money, it will go the way of every leftist country.

Let me shut you the fuck up for a moment with one word:

VIETNAM

US military completely BTFO'ed by a bunch of rice farmers who had shitty old Russian leftover weaponry who used guerilla warfare tactics to prevent a decisive US victory.

The fact that you libtards actually think the USA would nuke it's own cities or roll tanks down Main St. blowing up homes at random to "make a point" is where your clinical delusion shines brightly. You know who'd die first? YOU. Know why? Because in collapse, the greatest threat is going to be your neighbor who wants YOUR SHIT, he's armed and you're not, and he's going to fucking annihilate you for whatever supplies he can gather. Once the SHTF, all bets are off, no cops are coming to save you, you leave the house unarmed and you're done for, so how do you plan to protect the one thing you have?

Precisely why we won't miss you if the worst of times ever come. It's going to be one big liberal cleansing of epic proportions once you all end up dead from lack of preparation because of muh scary guns. I'm fine with that.

Are you delusional enough to believe a bunch of sand niggers can't drag the most powerful superpower through the dirt for over a decade with simple IEDs & leftover soviet junk?

>Accuses people of autism
>Posts frogs

>Some shillbots are delusional enough to think you stand better chances against drones and tanks armed with just your bare fists.

Dude, you forgot the greatest weapon of all, PETITIONS. I mean, those things change the world, and if civil war breaks out, the leftists will be able to stop it with enough online signatures, won't they?

What I want to know is how the gun grabbers know that 200, or even 1000 years from that there won't be a return to some sort of parity of firepower? The Constitution isn't just ours, it belongs to future generations of Americans. How do you know for certain that future generations won't enjoy weapons technology that puts the people back on par with their governments?

You can't know that. Claims to the contrary are just irresponsible.

In all honesty our military is held back from really letting loose. If thr goal was slaughter then it would be easy

It's not about over throwing them with firepower. It's about them knowing we will defend ourselves. We might lose, but does the government really want a civil war. It's not gonna look good when they start killing their own people. Then it's only a matter of time before another country steps in as backup

kek vvills it

Because the United States Military has beaten the Viet Cong, Somali National Alliance, Taliban, Islamic State in Iraq, and the Mahdi Army. Oh wait.

Afghans took down a Hind with a rock.

kek

Why do people believe this meme?
infowars.com/so-you-think-the-military-wont-kill-u-s-citizens/

>military training literally designed to dehumanize and otherize the enemy
>implying any more than a fraction would refuse to fight

The government will be overthrown in a civil war. We will not fight the soldiers or drones. We will concentrate on slaughtering the civilians who support the government. We can assassinate public officials, and employees. Blow up some roads and power plants. Once the government has no supporters, it will topple. Look up the history of civil wars. It is neighbor against neighbor.

They don't have to win, they just have to resist.

Insurgency is about attrition.

>Blames red tape.
Every time.

In the end, rifles and the will to use them are the only things that ever win wars.

See: every war ever fought. The most recent example is Saudi Arabia and the Houthis.


Even the most high tech and wealthy millitaries consist ONLY of infantry and support for the infantry. No exceptions.

go slash your wrists you shilling cunt, remember, down the road, not across, fuck you.

The battleground would be their hometowns. The neighborhoods they grew up in, where their parents and siblings, etc. live. Especially so since the military is mostly made up of red staters and the red states are likely to be ground zero for any nationwide rebellion.

How many letters from military moms to their sons about how other units are mistreating them and how the war has spilled over onto their frontyards before defections begin happening? Probably not many, because the military will just suspend mail once these letters start flying. So the soldiers will be left in the dark, completely disconnected from their families, their only knowledge coming from reports and rumors about bombings and assaults on the places their family live. Either way, defections are inevitable.

Unless the government tells them lies, and also has the media tell lies. They just need to tell the soldiers that a militia group is dangerous, wants to overthrow the government, plotted to assassinate senators, etc., the soldiers will shoot them. The tales don't need to be true. You just need to convince the soldiers that they will be fighting dangerous terrorists.

No one seriously thinks this, what we do believe is having access to fire-arms allows us to live and die with dignity, and defend ourselves, our land, and our family, instead of dying like a punk bitch in some demented faggot's torture chamber.

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He's not wrong, though. The recent US campaigns have been about being a "friend of the people they're invading" and since they have to at least pretend to be the good guys in the public eye, they're kept from doing a lot of things that would guarantee swift but bloody victory.

This is a problem Russia doesn't experience because they honestly couldn't care less about public opinion, which is why they get the results they're after in a fraction of the time.

Yep, this line of reasoning has always been stupid.

If there were to be any chance of rebellion to succeed, there would need to be defectors in the US military who bring the modern military-grade equipment with them. Tanks and bombers vs. tanks and bombers, not tanks and bombers vs. pig fucker Linus, his rifle, and his double digit IQ.

>Friend of the people
>When Iraq happened.
They literally killed over a million civilian just to get through with the occupation faster. And they still lost the war.

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>government tells military that group of muslims is causing trouble in neighborhood
>kill on site
>it's just a bunch of pissed off overweight rednecks with machine guns and rifles firing into the air blindly
>destroyed in an instant by drone strike
>no cleanup required

I am so sick of seeing shills concern trolling with whatever memes they could google for, like OP's 'image.png'

>A concern troll is a person who participates in a debate posing as an actual or potential ally who simply has some concerns they need answered before they will ally themselves with a cause. In reality they are a critic.

The best way to incapacitate big weapons is to kill (or credibly threaten to kill) their human operators. And guess what you kill flesh-and-blood humans with.

Oh, so your confidence is based on this entire hypothettical war being isolated to a single group of rednecks in a single location?

Well it's easy to make shitty points if your hypothetical is that restricted.

Now try a new hypothetical: The rebellion comprises anywhere between 2-5% of adult American males and is spread across the nation, but concentrated mostly across the south.

Now what?

Retard govermeer can not just kill every one or even 50%

Rebels would win.

He probably thinks there will be an equally motivated and unified 2-5% organically opposing the rebellion.

So treat the enemies like friends & your own people like enemies.

If that's what's going on I say disband the military.

Bunch of fucking cucks.

The point behind those big weapons is to make the users very hard to kill and very good at killing, Linus. Your rifle is not going to hit the bomber or get through the armor of the tank. On the other hand, the tank's machine gun isn't going to have a lot of trouble tearing you to shreds.

Why do you think that they invest so much money into researching and building that equipment? Is it because a group of faggots with AK47s can get the job done just as well?

Even if that were true it's unlikely the federal government would authorize millions of vigilantes attempting to wage war in the streets. That group would almost certainly be regarded as rebels themselves, even if their goals were not aligned with the original rebel group.

It's not for overthrowing a government, it's for intimidating a government, as was demonstrated in the Glorious Revolution.

>Tanks
>Drones
>Nukes

If the government is willing to completely destroy cities, resources and infrastructure to suppress an uprising, will their efforts have been a success at all? It's also not out of the question that foreign countries and organizations would help to arm and support a revolutionary faction, which is the case in basically every uprising ever.

We have this same damn thread every day. And every day the same Information and arguments get posted, OP gets BTFO, and then it starts all over again.

We are Sisyphus.

it's not that fucking hard.

you know how easy it'd be to slaughter every drone operation site in the country?

you know how much fuel tanks need? fuel that has to drive across american highways? thousands of miles of them?

you are aware that nobody will ever fucking fire nukes at their own citizens, and that to do so would be an instant loss for them?

you know how many people drones can take out in one day? about 100 if you count the 50 civilian casualties which turn 200 more people into the fight.

do you have any idea how fucking easy it'd be to over turn the government?

overthrowing the government is literally just a question of do we want to or not. once we decide to do it, there's no stopping us.

news headquarters are completely undefended.

death to journalists. it'd take 5 gunmen to slaughter pretty much CNN's entire staff.

>Not saying this means we should let libs take all our guns, but enough with the revolution fetish
The US military will be Trump's right-wing death squads, once he forces the old generals to retire and replaces them with loyal, better people

Then we can have the day of the rope

>nukes

really.

There's no need for the military to do that when a militarized police force can do the same thing.

if 5% of the military actively refused and 5% remained in their post but acted to sabotage the situation, the military would stop functioning altogether.

our military is a fragile glass sculpture of logistics and tech support.

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So you think the military would be ok with indiscriminately slaughtering Americans? Your soldiers? The people fed and bred on "Defending our Freedom"?

Defections will be so high you'd need a recount every 2 minutes.

>Come take my guns libuhrels
>Git r done

Fuck off. It's not about winning... It's about refusing to die like a dog.

this.

we will fight even if we are doomed. better to fight and die than to be made slaves.

The point behind those big weapons is to blast away at massed infantry and tanks. People who operate heavy weapons need food, and sleep, water, ammunition....cut the supply chains. Do not confront the government where it is strong. You attack your enemy where he is weak.

>important government agency monitors a board of autists circlejerking about blacklivesmatter and the holocaust

ISIS and the Taliban are doing just fine without all those fancy things.

All you need is strong propaganda, and a will to fight.

lol, just leave the tanks alone. go to the military base where the tank operators have to sleep at night and cut everyones throat.

you are literally retarded if you think that tanks can even be used in this situation. what the fuck are they gonna do with, drive up to the houses of suspected insurgents? here's an idea, you make bombs with widely available chemicals. you mobility-kill the tank by putting the bomb in a trash can by the road. with the tank immobilized, you use the fact that there are dozens of you in homes and structures in the entire area that look just like every other american and who can literally just drop their gun and go home when they get bored to slaughter all backup and all infantry support for the tank. when the tank is alone you get the fuck on top of it, take the machine gun for yourself, and pour gasoline into the air vents and light it up. you execute the operators when they come out, or they burn alive.

they call in helicopters? great, we actually CAN take those down with guns. requiring more rescue operations.

all this while the cities are burning? with the power and internet shut off on day 2, because our electrical grid is easy as shit to just shoot up and turn off?

no.

our military is not capable of fighting us on its own soil.

not that it would. if only 10% of soldiers actively or secretly resist, the whole military comes to a grinding halt.

Only in retarded delusional leftist revenge fantasies, which is all you've got.

>Dreams of government killing law-abiding Americans who don't agree with him politically because muh leftist ideology can't handle opposition

Yep, liberal faggot who deserves the gallows confirmed. And you're the ones who throw around the word "fascism" like it's not you who are the ultimate suppressors of all dissent. Fucking retarded cunts, every one of you.

And these supply lines are unguarded? These operators are all asleep at the same time? You seem to believe that you're action heroes in a movie, Linus and Billy Joe, and the United States military are a bunch of mooks with no minds of their own and very weak foundations in military strategy that are just going to stand there and wait for you to successfully execute your half baked plan like the faceless extras that they are.

If you want to cut the supply lines of a force that's armed to the teeth, step one is that YOU need to be at least almost as armed as they are. A couple of M1 Abrams finding you cannot be game over, and if you're just some dipshits with pea shooters and IEDs, that's exactly what being found by M1 Abrams is going to be.

That's why we defeated the taliban completely and they didn't end up winning and taking power again.

We also defeated the Vietcong the same way.

In Vietnam, the US military pulled out due to politics. It certainly wasn't because if the US military men were actually enthused about being there and weren't threatening to kill their officers if they actually went on the offensive, the US military would have lost.

>That's why we defeated the taliban completely and they didn't end up winning and taking power again.

What are you going on about? Besides, again, unpopular war. A lot of Americans believe that the US shouldn't even be in the Middle East.

Change.org notification - Mr. Wilson next door is shooting me with a rifle and taking my meager supplies. Sign this strongly worded letter to demand he stop.

You are now aware the right-side in the USA has those toys too.

See Vietnam and Korean wars. Farmers with ak-47's and a fist full of rice to eat a day repelled US invasion in their countries for years, eventually ousting the US military.

Google : Waco Texas

I think the successful war on terror in the middle east proves op's point.

the supply lines literally can't be guarded. they got hit in iraq with less people and people that look different from the soldiers.

you're delusional if you don't think that 10 guys couldn't shoot their way into an air force base and kill everyone, right now. the 'guards' are two guys with unloaded rifles.

you have this huge imagination where you think that the army is an unstoppable fighting force when really its 90% just office workers and mechanics and the tanks and planes and drones require vast amounts of safety and comfort to operate logistically.

furthermore, even if we lose, it's still a war we're willing to fight and die in every single time. liberty or death.

next in line please.

"Hey guys, there are some anti-government radicals living in this house, let's bring in some drone pilots to take them out."
>entire neighborhood is bombed, killing countless innocents, a la Afghanistan
>remaining government sympathizers join the opposition

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If these artists have no chance in hell against government, then surely you and the government shouldn't fear them, right? So there is no need for gun control since autists would get blown the fuck out, right?

>Nuking your own country
>Thinking this is a somehow valid tactic

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This tbqh

90% of people sign up to the military to protect their country not kill its citizens, unless said citizens are radicalised and are in a different country

Better than living in a post-America world.

> but enough with the revolution fetish
Tell it to the "liberals"
As far as i was aware it was a freedom fetish

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And what exactly did that accomplish the government? Other than jumping the shark and causing millions of people to decide that the government is out of control.


HAVE YOU NOTICED WE ARE IN MONTH 14 OF RECORD BREAKING ARMS SALES????

And after Orlando, we're winning over teh gheys?

AR-15s are selling out around the country.

I realize you've never fought for anything in your entire fucking life, but stop shitposting.

SAGED

America was winning the war just fine, the problem was that it turned into a "liberal's war". From the top down they ordered combat units to not take ground, but to "search and destroy". They didn't want them to seize and occupy territory because it would have "looked bad".

Take a hill, then leave the hill. NVA just walk back on top of the hill - rinse and repeat. Liberals and communists subverted the Vietnam war.

They honestly don't see what's massing around them. I keep telling them that Trump is their last hope not ours.

poll with majority of non officers refusing order to fire upon us citizens, most officers are fine with it though

My actual face when you assume I'll only use my AR15.

Come and take it faggot.

>and a will to fight.
Let's see where your will is when this is your family and loved ones

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