Why do so many young men find it so hard to interact with women their age to the point of near phobia?

Why do so many young men find it so hard to interact with women their age to the point of near phobia?

I don't find it "hard" to interact with women, I just don't want to anymore. What's good for the scorpion is not good for the frog.

False rape claims. Even the accusation is enough to destroy your life. Not worth it.

I see refugees interacting with German women their age all the time.

I'm a total chad, and most women just aren't worth investing any amount of time in.
I've spent years of my life with women, and I'm in no particular rush to waste any more time.

BECAUSE WE ARE BETA

Why would I want to interact with modern women?

>anymore
"beta" actually entails orbiting women, which is the opposite of what a lot of people here call "beta"

>he raped me
>how dare you question a rape victim

>do you want to have sex
>I did until you mentioned it you loser wow who says that

because women are gay

They try to hard. Seriously. Just act naturally.

I'm unattractive and no girl would ever want me. Why bother?

y-you too

>getting all of your finances and ownership taken away
>on the verge of being accused of rape and any given moment
Yeah no. That is bait I will never take.

This. Literally.

Completely not worth it

Second also not worth losing half my shit

It isn't hard, I just find women of the 25-30 demographic to be a bit crazy. Their internal clock is going off and they start to regret all of their life choices.

because we don't share anything in common in terms of interests or beliefs, and those who i do have something in common with are almost always ugly or fucked in the head. most women (and men) just want to talk about tv shows or movies or their favorite rapper's new song or some other shit i don't care about.

because women by age are fucking trash

i hate having conversations with them. every sentence they say starts with "I" and ends with "me." Plus, I can tell when they're trying to manipulate me after years of falling for their shit. Talking to a woman here is just not enjoyable unless you are trying to court her, and then it becomes this weird 1-way interview where everything i say becomes potential ammo against me. It makes me crazy neurotic, and I always end up breaking communication after a month or two, even if we fuck. I just cannot stay emotionally connected to a woman, at this point in my life (age 23) anyway.

Some of my friends have been in long term relationships, but they all seem so bored about it. None of them will start talking about their girlfriends without being asked. It's like they are glad to get away, and they aren't even fucking engaged or married yet!

Why do you NEED to talk to women? Are you a shill for feminism? Women are vapid as Fuck and I'm not going to bother talking to them unless they are red pilled

I went through a period in my life like that. It basically stems from the fact that a lot of women are ticking time bombs nowadays. They're relatively picky, they have the potential to ruin your life at a moment's notice, and a lot of conversations you have with them tends to feel like more of a job interview than a pleasant discussion. Eventually, though, a lot of the men that I know, including myself, get over all that and start pursuing women after they hit the age of around 20 or so. I personally stopped giving a shit about all of the possible repercussions simply out of the recognization that the Western world needs more white kids.

>black
>big black cock

Because boys are raised being taught that women are special and that you should cater to their needs.

The fatal flaw is that the moment you put her needs above yours, she views you as a beta.

You should be stubborn and selfish as a man, but noone teaches you this.

Because any guy who is not loaded or ripped and handsome has been trained since childhood to walk on eggshells or be branded a "Creep"

lmao men are Oedipus kings

...

I know of three people who are getting divorced because they spent too much time on their hobbies instead of with them. Like 2-3 times a week was too much for 3 different marriages.

>JUST

Women think they are way above 80% of all men and feel usually feel insulted if guys approach them.

The entire social protocol that was established over thousands of years has been thrown out of the window and now you're surprised young men don't know what to do?

Modern society = mostly women go for who they find the most physically attractive instead of good housemakers

F.R.A. False Rape Accusations.

>rape

I'm ugly and know women don't like me. I also have high standards.

>implying the kind of woman who watches porn isn't a woman

>1 post by this ID.

Baby bye bye bye

*lesbian
>me bein a retard

>i hate having conversations with them. every sentence they say starts with "I" and ends with "me."

so damn true brah. if they're not talking about themselves, they're talking about some inane shit i don't care about. a lot of guys are guilty of this too but less than women.

When, once in a blue harvest moon (literally 1-2 times a year for me) I sleep with a woman, I always wake up with a deep happiness and satisfaction as we lay there talking in bed the next day. In those moments of oxytocin I feel like I could actually get serious with a woman.

Then I drop her off, spend some time alone, and ultimately get anxious/neurotic about how things could go so horribly wrong so fast and will do something irrational like block her phone number and hope I never see her again. I did that twice last year, and both those girls absolutely hate my guts for it. I can't keep doing this because eventually all the girls at my school are going to find out I cannot into commitment, so I have mostly resigned myself to escapism with vidya and hanging with my friends until things change. Hopefully just getting older makes you more self-assured about what you want in a relationship... can any older anons chime in on this?

I think it might just be 30-50 year old men that are tired of watching teenage girls. 'milf' might as well be called 'mature'.

Have you ever tried to interact with women?
The output can NEVER be good, so I prefer to avoid it.

Also: 2D Masterrace, 3d women today are only sluts (or if you're lucky, attention whores)

If you want someone particularly attractive, you're going to have to be tall, in shape, good looking and rich

Spot on man. I am 10 years older than you but I agree 100%. I think people settle way too fucking much these days and just stick with annoying unintelligent cuts just to not be alone. It's not worth a shit if anything but sex is boring as Fuck tho. I'd rather just jerk off

The hobby wasn't the reason. It was a blame target.

The better question is
>Why do so many young men make so many excuses about why they can't interact with women their age?

>Why do so many children* find it so hard to interact with bitches* their age to the point of near phobia?
FIFY

Because women act like they're being violated when men want to hold conversations with them.

Im afraid of any type of judgment, and I wouldn't even know what to do on dates and stuff

>i hate having conversations with them.

You know which one I always hated the most?

>WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT?

Do they want me to lie or do they want me to tell them what I'm really thinking about? Everytime my ex gfs would ask me that, I'd just tell them "work" or "family stuff" but really I was thinking about Star Trek, Sup Forumsitics, vidya, or stupid YT-tier philosophy like "what if the pyramids were all built by aliems"

They're pussies that don't realize how precious life, especially your early years, are. Seriously the chances of some girl falsely claiming rape are tiny and even if she does (one did against me) she needs evidence to do anything. Your mileage may vary on the latter part depending on your state/province/ect.

Getting married is risky but losing half your shit is part of the gamble and risk is what makes life worth living. It reminds you that you're alive. It's also is incentive to actually make it work but you degenerate retards don't see that despite being "redpilled."

You just don't love them. When the chemical rush is gone you don't feel any connection. Not your fault user. I intentionally treated girls like shit, messed with them for my own amusement ect. until I met a girl I loved. I was with her for 7 years.

Because young women generally have nothing to say anyway.
Because we are becoming a Soviet fear state where it is legally or physically damgerous to say the wrong thing.
Because most young men have been bombarded with the idea that they are innately bad.

He's tall. Height is the one visual cue that melts women.

Because rape is illegal
I actually ignore woman even if they directly address me

>black
>gangbang
>big black cock

nice Ahmed

This. even seeing OP's pic, the first thing I thought was "fart rape"

Most western women are narcissistic horror shows. They're men spirited, entitled, and unpleasant to be around. Their only utility lies in their bodies and I can rent those a fuck of a lot cheaper than trying to impress them with "dates". Just not worth the effort these days.

>51 posts
>1 by OP
Pack it in lads.
DO NOT RESPOND TO THE SHILL THREADS
SAGE THE SHILL THREADS
HIDE THE SHILL THREADS

most likely its something to do with girls developing earlier than boys, and the distance between them grows pretty extreme by the time the guys are 18 or so and the girls have had 5+ partners.

>don't realize how precious life
Meh. We all end up dead anyway. Doesn't matter how "well" you lead your life.

CUZ VR WIFU'S WHEN!

u mad anglofag?

What constitutes as "excuses"? Are you a woman?

You mean it's not just me?

All men have mother issues

I came inside my girl last night senpai

Today I actually talked to a really cute, young woman (!), who initiated the conversation (!), and who furthermore complained that she wanted to learn new news sources because media bias was getting obvious (!).
That said, she had this affectation, which would be painful on a date and a deal-breaker in a relationship, where she spoke in a mid-80s Valley Girl like okay thing. Somehow, young people hate patriarchy and Reagan, but worship the 80s.

see the other replies to this thread

Honestly? Because I'm not ready and I'm not going to waste my time talking to some possible faux rape victim or psycho bitch. I know it sounds corny, but I'm waiting for someone who I am worthy of and is worthy of me. I've worked myself into a very comfortable lifestyle, got fit where women turn their head at me, and set up my earnings well so I earn money on my money. I'm not settling for some woman who thinks she can just be nice to me and hopefully suck the wealth and life out of me while getting fat. I want a real partner.

Women are soooooo fucking boring to talk to. It's like they don't know how to keep a conversation going unless it's about themselves. 9 times out of 10 they give short, dull answers and don't ask any questions, and when I get bored and stop messaging them, they get upset and ask why.

>step mom
>mom

fucking feminism, seriously.

And he would look food if he hadn't destroyed his body with food

I don't have a problem approaching women, because I have thick skin, but holy shit, most of them are cunts. In the end I don't really care when they act rudely, because I know I haven't done anything wrong and I'll just call them out on their bullshit. Like shit, don't be so full of yourself, I just asked how you're doing, I didn't ask to marry you.

>2D Masterrace, 3d women today are only sluts

I'm kinda sad to hear things don't get much better in your 30s, but I am not surprised. I agree about settling too - I know for a fact that one of my good friends from high school is dating this absolute cunt for 3+ years now because he settled and doesn't think he is gonna get much better. She is attractive, but she has the actual worst personality in a girl I have ever met. Like, demands he takes her home from the bar early on a Saturday night when there is a huge group of us hanging out because she has a stomach ache-tier shitty personality.

The fact that he dates her despite all of us having told him at some point that we all dislike her and think he could do better made me slowly lose respect for him until eventually we became just acquaintances instead of friends. It's like hanging out with a zombie. I just can't allow something like that to happen to me, so now I am insanely neurotic about girls and get overly anxious about all decisions regarding them, often to the point where I go full retard and delete the girl's number and block her on social media. I'm just glad I have a site like this to know I am not alone in this struggle. I am not a total autist... I am a pretty normal guy with education and a decent job. I should be trying to find someone to start a family with right now, but right now marriage is about making all of the bride's dreams come true at the expense of yours, and all you get out of it is increasingly unpassionate (and infrequent) sex out of it.

when they buy a burger from your coworkers at mcdonalds?

>I wouldn't even know what to do on dates and stuff
This so much. I'm usually not interested in women. But every once in a while there is one that tries to hook up with me.

Currently there is one who always asks me to do stuff with her. She isn't even that bad in comparison, but god damn her interests are so dull. I always declined so far, because I literally have no clue what I could do with her. There would be lots of awkward silences and stuff and I'm not even that shy. My normal interests are of course not something that would be considered appropriate topics at a date. Well too fucking bad.

I just feel like it's more productive to spend more time on myself, than with someone else. Sometimes though, I feel like I'm wrong about it.

What's even worse is when you're very approachable and people want to hang around, I can get anxious af. I don't even understand why I'm like this.

Cucks put women higher then themselves just treat women like derps so much fucking easier even with 10/10s

But the pyramids were built by ayy lmaos. WE WUZ SPACE KANGZ N SHEIT.

Growing up with a single mother.

Men who grow up seeing what happened to their parents shitty relationship are nervous to start their own for obvious reasons, it's usually subconscious as it's learned so young and it's hard to consciously admit your parents flaws for most.

This is also why modern women are so susceptible to feminist propaganda about how useless and flaky men are and how women need to do everything by themselves because that's what they already feel about their split-up parents.

This is why American culture specifically is so fucked since you have a 53% divorce rate.

What's he shilling?
What's being slid?
Maybe OP is, in addition to being a faggot whose posts are unrelated to politics, a phonefag or someone else with a rapidly cycling IP.

You won't think this 1 post shit is so cute when it gets memed past the point of anyone even remembering what it's supposed to mean... further shitting up the board.

I literally do not know how to talk to women.

I'm introverted by nature so any attempt at being more outgoing in general comes off as disingenuous and creepy. I don't know what to do or say.

I can't fathom how some people can only get their energy from others, it's exhausting.

I've been surrounded by idiots for so long that i can't get the thought of women being stupid as fuck out of my head when talking to them.

>Man bumps into girl and says hi and sorry
>Now he is in sensitivity training and everyone at the office treats him like dirt

>Two consenting people are drunk, however what transpires is always the mans fault

>Woman accuses man of rape, goes to trial, no evidence, woman gets away scot free while man is now in all the papers, databases, and net as a tried rapist

>Women supporting monogamous relationships and remaining faithful to partners at an all time low


I wonder why more and more men are avoiding them... what a curious thing.

I don't know how to flirt. I just befriend them and hope for feelings.

No newfaggot, you're wrong. Not all betas are beta orbiters, that's why people specify "beta orbiter".

Because I don't live up to the male ideal pushed by the media.

Because she'll accuse me of rape and I'll go to prison.

Girls are easy you just gotta be direct with them.
>take girl out to do something
>get her alone after
>put on some music
>take your dick out
Boom now your gettin your dick sucked

Insecurity/Fear of Evaluation combined with the fact that there are no traditional rules and standards for courtship anymore

I'm 27 and haven't dated since high school, also a virgin. I gave up years ago, and am finally reaching the point where I feel okay about it instead of terribly depressed

>Why do so many prey-animals find it so hard to interact with predatory-animals their age to the point of near phobia?

Years of rejection combined with crippling autism.

Somehow I managed not to be a virgin. But those experiences provided no overall benefit besides preventing my wizardhood. In that way I consider it a greater failure.

>babe, what are you thinking about?
>>WE
>"we" Who's "we"? Are you cheating on me?
>>WUZ
>YOU WUZ WHAT? WERE YOU SLEEPING WITH HER?

In America homosexuality is absolutely a defensive measure for the men because they have fallen into such slavery to the women. The woman can behave like an ax there: she just starts hacking away on something. She is never rebuked: the best example of a tyranny by women!

>I'm 27 and haven't dated since high school, also a virgin.
I'm surprised people make it that far these days.

FUCKING. THIS. I got tinder for kicks when I moved back home and never really paid attention to it, the women that would message first fucking SUCK at directing a conversation. I got so frustrated I had to yell at a bitch "At least I know you're not a tranny, because a mentally Ill man is more interesting than this"

That only happens if you're ugly.
I'm ugly, so I don't want to be accused of being a creep.

Intelligence.
I'm not even kidding. There's a reason why it's so hard to get geniuses to fucking reproduce. Reproduction is inversely correlated with IQ. Intelligent fucks overthink things and put up walls between themselves and other people, not just females.
I've never actually seen an idiot who was also a virgin; but the most successful and educated man in my family is in his 50's and hasn't had so much as a kiss.

This is why alcohol is an important thing in society, as well as gold-digging women. You've got to trick the buggers into it.

>Step dad daughter