>EU ready to retaliate against US sanctions on Russia
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I mean it's inevitable really. The American government and corporations are getting more and more insolent every year. Not paying taxes, openly violating regulations and laws, enabling hate speech and ISIS propaganda online, and trying to pressure the EU to accept fracking or buy their overpriced genetically modified trash. Ooops. I meant "food".
I'm terrified
Dunno what the Pee Poo is crying about, current US administration can't stop slurping on the Russian ballsack
Friendly reminder that the only real allies you have on the planet are the EU countries, and maybe Canada.
Everyone else hates your guts and wishes to destroy your country.
World order would collapse in a day if we were to call all of our soldiers and equipment home.
Enjoy speaking russian, prices on everything going through the roof due to Somalian pirates attacking shipping lanes and dealing with the refugee aftermath of Russia and China growing rarger.
There are certanly a lot of countries that depend on American world order.
However, EU member states are none of those countries. Currently, we go along with NATO because our leaders don't want to change a running system.
But if it became necessary, EU would be more than able to build up its own army
>build up its own army
You mean a German army
Back to Sup Forums you dumb mong.
Every time EU takes another few billions from some amerian company because they broke the laws here I laugh.
The annoying thing is that The Netherlands and Germany will be the ones paying for any "US sanctions".
It's easy to sanction a country you don't even trade with.
How is that a Sup Forums statement? I do not browse Sup Forums
I just think it would boil down to a German army as they would have the most power and would likely have the commanding positions
our army is much weaker than the french
Yes but you're an economic power house compared to other EU countries, all you need to do is have the will to build up your military
you better be, *merican dog, we will raze the white house, guillotine trump and take back the statue of liberty since you don't deserve it
>Posts British plane
Hmm.
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germany is an occupied country
wait what germans are still allowed to use pseudo-nazi crosses on their planes ? didn't we forbid them ? why isn't there the eu logo there instead ?
The prototype was british
The Eurofighter is manufactured by a German company
I think the cross is older than Nazism.
>Russia is bad
>now buy our idealogically correct gas goy
I like the US, but the can suck a dick if they want to get in the way of trade with Russia.
I don't think EU should overcommit on sanctions that hurt us while providing no boon towards solving Ukraine.
PS: poles hate nord stream because they want them jooci transit fees.
Really not sure.. perhaps some Kraut user here knows
Yes, and the prototype almost never saw production because the Germans kept delaying and refusing to pay their fair share.
The sooner EU realizes that America doesn't have friends only interests the better. EU needs to be able to stand on its own and stop being a vassal on US. Kill NATO, start looking out for European interests on trans-atlantic relations and be friendlier to Russia and China.
>pseudo-nazi crosses
their armored divisions are still called panzerdivisions, do you have pstd yet?
the iron cross predates germany as a state
en.wikipedia.org
Oh shit, I should have stayed in my third world village.
I hope the Heer can defend me.
Really? I don't know that much about Eurofighter history
But I do think think it's one of the sexiest fighters to ever exist
there is no worse food than russian
Finnish Airforce coming through
Don't forget that the EU, while not exactly buddies with Iran, also don't quite see them as ENEMY #1 THREAT TO THE WORLD
t. REEEEE LEAVE IRAN ALONE
Don't like the EU and wish we had no ties to them at all. Wish our only connections were, at most, on our own land mass like it's meant to be.
>enabling hate speech
There's no such thing as hate speech, user.
And yet with American distrust on the part of the EU at an all time high, you still haven't tried to build one.
The only countries with respectable armies are France and Britain (who doesn't count). I'd count Poland but 2% GDP of one of the lowest ranked EU countries does not amount to much
drop the proxy, Ivan.
America is still a much more reliable than the totalitarian police state called russia. not to mention russia has nothing valuable except oil and gas, and even those can be bough from the US or some arab country.
vast majority if russians dream about invading and annexing europe. also most russians are absolutely sure that eastern europe is rightfully russian.
russia would constantly pressure and try to dominate whole europe if it gets closer with russia. and without america's political, diplomatic and military help europe won't be able to oppose russia for too old.
so backstabbing america would be the biggest mistake europe can do. don't fall for that cheap russian propaganda
nah, we can always count on perfidious albion to fuck it up for the EU, regardless which side they initially side with. in the end they're going to trust us much more than continentals, if anything because we're so far away
heh like they even need allies
>And yet with American distrust on the part of the EU at an all time high, you still haven't tried to build one.
because we don't feel threatened. I know many Americans believe we live in fear of Russia and would be overrun by them as soon as nato is dissolved, but this is simply not the reality
Good riddance. Just remember, we have nukes, and we're highly idealistic and religious.
Always remember that.
The only thing stopping us from WW3 is USA, Russia and nukes. Strongest set the rules.
Sounds like Islam
nytimes.com
Well. The Baltics and Finland ARE terrified, but that's mostly due to their government's intense brainwashing that caused this. It almost borders on certified paranoia.
we have nukes too and we are led by a literal god, what now fgt
>The Baltics and Finland ARE terrified
gee, wonder where that paranoia stems from
You are also need to be a number one in millitary power.
'cept we gots dem nukes
Divinity vs Insanity sounds like fun
I don't think Finland is really terrified.
They have half a century of experience dealing with Russia/Soviet Union, and they made a lot of money by trading between east and west.
If they were tarrified, they would have hardly decided to stay out of NATO
they stayed out precisely because they were terrified of russian retaliation. you think they stayed neutral out of love for ivan?
>vast majority if russians dream about invading and annexing europe. also most russians are absolutely sure that eastern europe is rightfully russian.
drop YOUR proxy Mykola
Supposing this were true, why does the EU always screech the moment it seems as if the US might have closer relations with Russia?
it doesn't
EU in fact would welcome if Russia and USA got along
So Finland stayed out of nato because they are terrified of Russia, and Baltic countries joined nato because they are terrified of Russia?
Islam has nukes too (Pakistan)
well I used to be idealisitc. I thought maybe one day russia would become free and more liberal and we would have free trade with europe. but thats not happening in my lifetime. so now yes I give up lets just invade europe
t. red collaborationist scum.
The White Justice of the Fatherland shall strike you down, rat.
Iran has nukes too. They probably aren't the intercontinental kind though. Pakistan probably doesn't have them either, especially since their only real enemy is India.
I like Russia. But sayin that Europe would not last long agains it... huge overstatement, like big time, mayor liege.
Europe has no cohesion whatsoever. Everybody likes it like that and it wont change unles something big happens.
Protip: wont happen
He's right though, I don't consider you guys an ally, just a responsibility.
Build your own fucking army so none of my children ever have to fight and die for you.
>and Baltic countries joined nato because they are terrified of Russia?
yes, terrified of ever rejoining russia in a USSR 2.0. apparently they would rather risk nuclear hellfire than be reoccupied satellites
They are dying for the Jews you dumb fuck
no one on Sup Forums's ever having children, fucking kek
You don't have to kill NATO, although there would be nothing wrong with it supposing you had your shit together.
I don't care what you do with Russia, but being friendly with China is 100% a mistake. If you thought you had Eastern European countries had democratic problems, you have not even seen China.
They're a powder keg waiting to blow with hardliner communists fighting anarchocapitalist oligarchs, and they don't have the moral hangups that we do which would prevent them from taking advantage of you in every way that you let them.
one less "ally" to die for is better than nothing. I said my children to imply the future you brainlet
Why should we care if China is democratic or not?
We are traiding with them, their domestic issues are their own business
The future will still be dying for Israel
What do EU countries have to do with invading middle eastern countries and sub saharan Africa?
Open your eyes
This. These American led sanctions have hurt our already ailing economy.
Friendly relations implies more than trading. You'll have travel agreements, information sharing, military obligations (this one's the worst), and most importantly, you will have to answer to your own people as to why you support them once they inevitably commit an atrocity.
so far, america is the only country that has triggered article 5 of nato.
So it was our children dying for you, and not the other way around
thanks for clearing that up nostradamus
shit, putin's right. maybe it's time for us to pack up our bags and get outta there
>Build your own fucking army so none of my children ever have to fight and die for you.
If they're retarded enough to join the army...
There's a saying in Hungary: aki kurvának áll, ne sírjon ha basszák, which roughly translates to - if you decide to become a prostitute, don't cry when you're being fucked.
ie: you brought this on yourselves.
I doubt Iran has nukes. They didn't even use chemical weapons during the war with Iraq, even though Iraq did use them on them. Maybe I'm naive. As for Pakistan
>Maximum missile range 2,750 km
We will certanly not have any military obligations with China. Our countries are too far away and we don't have the ability to project power into each others neighbourhood, so a military alliance would be moot.
>you will have to answer to your own people as to why you support them once they inevitably commit an atrocity.
we have this problem with every ally, USA included
Are Russian diaspora the worst?
whatever do you mean tovarich
You make Guantanamo sound like a gulag.
Do you really think a Chinese atrocity would even resemble an American ``atrocity''? Torture aside, those Guantanamo guys even get health care.
How did Israel manage to get such a vice on the US?
Do whatever it takes for America to recognize it has to get its shit together.
with jews you lose. especially russian jews
> Die for you.
> IMPRAYIN
Waito PiGU died for Europe now?
Sure. Why not?
Jamal summer is strok in u.
Yes, I'm ready.
>EU ready to retaliate
Eu who? Poland? Because we don't buy their apples anymore?
Socialists never win, remember that
I don't think theres a sizeable amount. you underestmiate the power of retards online worshipping russia for meme reasons
>``atrocity''
are you implying that kidnapping people, keeping them arrested without a trial, denying them lawyers contact to family, torturing them are not real atrocities?
I'm ready lads
Americans dying during Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1, Gulf War 2, Afghanistan, Africa were all for Europeans?
Ahahahah some of my fellow American posters are so fucking stupid
I also say this as someone who is actually in the Army
So is Swastika though.
Nazi just made people this much butthurt about it.
Don't Germans have a registry of frobidden symbols?
>torture aside, those Guantanamo guys even get health care.
Is that what you call feeding them through their anus?
theguardian.com
tbf he's a literal rothschild banker and as capitalist as it gets
>they don't have the moral hangups
They don't have the moral prerequisites for expansion either. Basically their mid-upper upper class just minding their own business trading with west etc, while the low class is too egocentric to care about what's happening in the neighboring quarter. Their society is not burdened with obligations to play the role of "world police" or "to protect their compatriots" abroad.
>my children are going to be born in the past
Yes, everybody wishes they could be as intelligent as the cannon fodder
Care to refuse his arguments then?
We haven't died for Europeans in fucking decades.. why do you think it's going to change?
>macron
>socialist
nigga is cutting spending like nobodies busines
he'll also get to worker protection too
he's true right wing economically
tangentially yea. it was all a check to encircle russia and alleviate pressure for europe to be the main corridor in a WWIII scenario while they were still commies.
im saying that a lot of people who seem like russian diaspora are really just deluded westerners looking to russia as a beacon of hope
Because change is the only thing you can guarantee in life you stupid brainlet
The people sent to Guantanamo are non-US Citizens, and are suspected (you can't actually confirm terrorists) to be enemy combatants flying without a flag. The Geneva and Hague conventions don't apply to these people, so treating them as if they were citizens of any country would be nonsense.
It might be an atrocity, but everything is put on a scale. Nobody, except Obama, has really complained enough for us to make the cost of detaining these people high enough to stop.
We are terrified? Why did no one tell me about this?
This is what literally happened to prisoners in Guantanamo daily.