Originally named Warsaw

>originally named Warsaw
>later changed their name to Joy Division after reading a book about nazis
>released a debut EP called "An Ideal For Living" featuring a Hitler youth on the cover
>band would often perform using German last names, and count off their songs in German like the Ramones
>Ian Curtis supported the Tories and helped elect Margaret Thatcher
>band later changed their name to New Order
Why do we like Joy Division again?

Because they're good, and there's nothing wrong with any of that.

>what is irony

Because I care about the music, not cherrypicking some political things out of something that probably didn't have any political meaning behind.
I mean, a lot of my favorite artists have some weird ideologies (I listen to lot of neo-folk, which many have NS ideologies) or punk (many are anarchist/marxists).
You need to learn to stop giving a fuck about Sup Forums shit and enjoy the music.

>he ironically voted conservative

What are you implying?

Is this anti-cuckmusique?

>he fell for the "conservative vs liberal" meme
sheep

I love their art, everything else makes you human

So by your logic, Motorhead, Ramones, and Marilyn Manson were also Nazi's? Imagery doesn't count for anything in an individual
>b-but muh tories!
A working class guy from manchester voting conservative, who'd-a-fucking-thunk. Why let politics hinder your enjoyment, you fucking baby. Go outside and kiss a girl.

wtf i love joey division now

Especially as it was conservative vs labour at the time with liberals a distant 3rd. But bipolar politics and how fashionable you will look listening to a band are the only real way to judge music anyway.

Not him but Lemmy very well could have been a Nazi. Nobody has that much confederate and German memorabilia without having at least some sympathies.

>A working class guy from manchester voting conservative, who'd-a-fucking-thunk.
Have you fucking been to Manchester? Especially in the pre-Thatcher pre-Tony Blair days the north of England was slightly to the right of the USSR.

Hohenzollern suckers is a maybe.

Literally nothing wrong with any of these things, stop complaining

National Socialism is retarded but i genuinely have no problem with followers of Italian Fascism

You're ironically shitposting but someone over at p4k or The Fader might take you seriously.

It really depends on the type of Italian fascist.
Woke: Italian futurists
Joke: Italian traditionalists

>Ian Curtis supported the Tories and helped elect Margaret Thatcher
Didn't Mark E Smith vote for Thatcher as well, or am I misremembering something?

possibly Mark definitely looks at politics as a case by case thing though has always criticised all sides

You forgot about Rupert Hess

>Rudolf

Literally what I typed but autocorrect fucked it

I think it was one guys from The Jam.

*hangs self out of the blue after 50 years in jail and at the age of 90*

Futurists were the wokest, too bad Marinetti pussied out and went under Musso's wing, the rest died for the dumb idelogy regarding war

>implying
Mate, nobody is implying anything. Joy Division were fucking nazis.

He supported her after the Falklands War, which wasn't an uncommon thing for working class people to have done.

>not ironically voting for Trump in the election just for the lulz

>le epic copypasta
>people actually falling for it
the absolute state of Sup Forums

ssssh let him have a good day and erp as a trve manc

Why do we like Death In June again?