And Debussy wrote Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun, a work Ravel regarded as perfect. Doesn't mean their works aren't filled with parallel fifths and various other conventions that are considered poor form within common practice music. The problem isn't a lack of ability but just an anipathy for tradition.
Henry Roberts
I wish I didn't. lmao Sad to see quads go to waste. There's nothing virtuosic about Nuages gris (so I can tell you didn't actually click the link) or many other Liszt piano compositions for that matter so your judgement is simply incorrect.
Austin Long
>implying quads went to waste >implying he's wrong
Zachary Kelly
I didn't say anything about the vrtuosity of their works. I said they were both clearly talented musicians who were moved by the spirit of rebellion and overall their work suffered for it.
Noah Collins
Is the ability, nay compulsion to come up with melodies a good reason to try composition?
Jose Lewis
Sure.
Dylan Thompson
as good a reason as any
Blake Roberts
I don't see how the use of unconventional techniques equates to "poor form," but okay. Nothing about Liszt's music has "suffered."
Anthony James
except a lot of them cannot stand on their own and lean on the interpreter
>The problem isn't a lack of ability but just an anipathy for tradition.
So we should just continue with the same music forever because, that's tradition?
Liam Smith
It's the miditard again. Music is human not robotic; music is sound not dots on a page or bits in a computer. Interpretation is everything.
Grayson Garcia
>you share a board with people who think this way Why do you think Glenn Gould is regularly criticized? He doesn't have a voice and plays with a complete lack of emotion or expression. Like the user responding to you above me is saying, it's all in the interpretation, especially in the case of composers like Satie and Liszt who are literal impressionist composers. It's in the name of the movement, for fuck's sake.
Nathan Garcia
If you think Satie is even a good composer then that is sad. I'd just as soon forget about him altogether. Liszt certainly prefigured impressionism but nobody would call him an impressionist, he's a high romantic through and through.
Julian Nelson
Bach sounds just as brilliant in midi as he does under human interpretation.
>implying he's wrong I want the tripfag to kill himself too, but yes, he was
Andrew Wilson
I'm not even that infatuated by Satie, but that's besides the point. We were discussing the risque nature of Liszt's impressionist pieces, regardless of whether or not he was predominantly a romanticist. You and I both know you don't actually believe that.
Brayden Smith
>He doesn't have a voice and plays with a complete lack of emotion or expression brainlets everyone
Jaxon Cox
I do, especially because it redounds to the mathematical perfection of Bach's music. The romantic period was pretty much an entire century of dirty trcks and emotional manipulation. There are some monumental works from that period but pure music only exists on either side of it.
Bentley Taylor
You say that, but go and listen to some Bach on MIDI with no ritardando into the cadences, no accentuation of different voices, hell - no dynamics!, then you will understand just how important interpretation is
Luke Fisher
I've done that before already. In fact I arranged some myself by ear
Levi Ward
>B*g sounds just as brilliant in midi as he does under human interpretation.
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
Landon Young
There aren't words for how much I hate this personal meme of yours
Composition aside, pretty fucking awesome video and recording too.
Sebastian Rivera
>He doesn't have a voice and plays with a complete lack of emotion or expression. He (like Bernstein) is criticized for playing it with too much of his own "emotion."
Nolan Ward
ALso... what the fuck is going on with the harmony in that piece in basic terms? Why does it sound like that? Is he focusing on a certain chord structure or a certain type of modulation?
>oh no he's right The poster never implied that. Certainly no one with a brain would agree.
Jackson Green
Its in mixolydian or something
Christopher Murphy
the poster, (you) is a dilletante who has no idea about music or any other form of creativity
Isaiah Cooper
When you think about it, this piece is basically the entire basis of Thomas Newman's movie scoring career
Luke Perry
>what the fuck is going on with the harmony in that piece in basic terms? "The harmony, though modal, is really a Vaughan Williams invention (with a little help from Debussy)"
Late romantic and impressionist harmony cannot really be described in "basic terms". It is the culmination of 300+ years of harmony. To understand what's going on you need a solid foundation in common practice harmony, then modal harmony, then impressionist and early 20th century harmony.
Hunter Cook
>(you) wasn't me m8
Bach's music is incredibly emotional, it is much more than "mathematical perfection". It requires a human interpreter to get the full depth out of. Emphasizing voices in a polyphonic texture, dynamics, tempo changes, even straight up taking liberties with rhythms: All these things are very important in Bach.
Your original statement that "Bach sounds just as brilliant in midi as he does under human interpretation." is objectively false.
Kayden Bailey
>a dilletante who has no idea about music or any other form of creativity This is exactly what you're coming across as
>"Bach sounds just as brilliant in midi as he does under human interpretation." is objectively false. Especially as half of his music is vocal.
Jeremiah Roberts
What's the easiest 4 voice fugue for piano? I really want to learn one but everything seems so hard
Noah Gomez
kek at the retard claiming music is math.
the most advanced "math" you can find in musical composition notwithstanding tuning sytems is much easier than introductory algebra. claiming otherwise is one of the best ways to identify yourself as a poseur and a parrot
No. He got you. Pretty badly. If not, explain in what sense "music is math" such that its mathematically laden elements express what's valuable about it.
Nicholas Brooks
>Walter
I bet that comments section is someething else
Oliver Clark
could you stop referring to yourself as if you are multiple people? Thanks
