Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?

Can somebody PLEASE give me a legit reason why guns should still be legal in America in 2016?

pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense. also you are far more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a family member with a gun than to use it for self defense. owning a gun is simply not a good idea.

pro tip: Target shooting is not a legit reason, saving 30,000 lives is far more important than rednecks having fun shooting targets

pro tip: Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason. please stop with your red dawn fantasies. how is a rifle going to help you when an AC 130 is firing 105mm cannon rounds at you from 8,000 feet in the air?

pro tip: Hunting is not a legit reason. its 2016, nobody needs to hunt for food anymore. Hunting is cruel to the animals who die a painful and frightening death. Also hunting is terrible for endangered species like wolves and grizzly bears.

pro tip: Saying that gun control would not cut down on gun deaths is not a legit reason. Gun control has already proven to be successful in America. Automatic guns were banned in 1986 and today practically nobody is killed by a fully automatic rifle.

pro tip: Citing the second amendment is not a legit reason. Presser v. Illinois (1886) ruled that individual States do have the right to regulate gun ownership.

pro tip: Saying that America is a democracy is not a legit reason. Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people. Most people in America want stricter gun regulations and the only reason no laws have been passed is that the NRA has spent billions of dollars lobbying for no gun regulations.

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suck my dick fag

Because I like my guns in this current year. Come take them or go fuck yourself.

good post friend, I cannot believe so many people on here oppose common sense gun laws like regulating magazine capacity and having mental health checks for any gun purchase.

that is why I am voting for Hillary this fall. #ImWithHer

SHALL

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>pro tip: Citing the second amendment is not a legit reason. Presser v. Illinois (1886) ruled that individual States do have the right to regulate gun ownership.

>2 posts by this ID

NOT

Here you go, gun control doesn't do anything.

France banned guns, did "nobody have a gun" you faggot retard moron?

That's a funny way to spell "NOT"

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Holy fuck I love the argument "I can defend myself if the government turns against me"
No you fucking cant defend yourself against armoured vehicles and trained soldiers you fucking redneck

It doesn't matter if you agree with it. You don't get to decide for me.

We allow guns so that you can do us all a favor and kill yourself.

Why are terrorist groups in the Middle East so hard to beat if we have ac 130s and all they have is aks and RPGs

worked well for the Vietnamese :^)

you are a fucking imbecile

> "The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow-citizens of the rights it recognizes to what is called in City of New York v. Miln, 11 Pet. [116 U.S. 252, 102] 139, the 'powers which relate to merely municipal legislation, or what was perhaps more properly called internal police,' 'not surrendered or restrained' by the constitution of the United States."

That's why Isis has been so easy to beat am I right

INFRINGED!

Shoulda told that to the Vietnamese, we would've had a lot less fucked up vets from that war

Vietnam VS USA, eh faggot

Sick pro tips

Have you forgotten?

Here's the thing, most states, even those with high ownership rates, prohibits carrying you weapon with you in most circumstances.

Why is it that the states with the harshest gun control laws are also the ones with the worst gun crime? Why is it most states with lax gun laws are generally low on the crime list?

Believe it or not, even a state like Hawaii has high gun ownership numbers... but that doesn't mean diddly squat when it is literally illegal to be in possession of your firearm unless it is unloaded in a separate locked container than your ammo, and you must be on your way to go to a shooting range, hunting, or to a gun shop for repairs, it doesn't do much to stop crime.

In a state like Arizona where you can open carry without a permit, conceal carry without a permit, and with a conceal carry permit (CCW) you can carry inside venues that serve alcohol as long as you don't consume any yourself you seem to hear about far less crime. If there was a permitted holder carrying inside the night club that night, they possibly could have stopped him themselves and limited the carnage.

Honestly the solution here is allow more of those who have proven themselves legally worthy, and capable of sufficiently handling a firearm to carry then with more freedom.

Taking guns won't stop gun crime, it will just take then from the only ones who can stop it.

Remember, when seconds matter police are only minutes, or in the case of Orlando, hours away. Plus the fact that the supreme court ruled that the police have no legal duty to protect you in times of peril is something to consider.

>pro tip: Hunting is not a legit reason. its 2016, nobody needs to hunt for food anymore.

Hunting is a means for population control of wild animals. Texas's wild hog problem is a perfect example of what happens if hunting is stopped. Imagine fearing for your life as you drive down the road because you have no idea if a deer will leap out in front of you.

It's too easy for mentally unstable and violent cops to have access to firearms!

>30,000 lives
>0.00009% of the population
And most of those are suicides.
Mathematically, literally no one is killed by guns.
3/10 got me to reply to the designated shitposting thread.

>Here's proof states don't believe they have to follow the constitution! Oh and thats for my argument, I don't really care what that means.
areyoushittingme.jpg

We have an abundance of Spic/Niggers.

Maybe if we lived in a White Christian paradise we could give them up. I work in DC and I have to dodge/jump and run from them just to get to work. But until then....

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haha thats funny :D

10/10 shitpost faggot
Here is a picture of my favorite gun.

>pro tip: Saying that America is a democracy is not a legit reason. Keeping guns legal is actually directly opposing the will of the people. Most people in America want stricter gun regulations and the only reason no laws have been passed is that the NRA has spent billions of dollars lobbying for no gun regulations

America is a democracy, and if the people actually feel this way, they can vote representatives in who will take their rights away.

Protip: it hasn't happened yet outside of liberal hell holes

pro tip: Saying that gun control would not cut down on gun deaths is not a legit reason. Gun control has already proven to be successful in America. Automatic guns were banned in 1986 and today practically nobody is killed by a fully automatic rifle.

>This is stale pasta. It's the exact same thread from last night. If it's the same colossal faggot of an OP he will just deny any valid point and refuse to refudiate any counter argument.
>Xer will completely refuse to acknowledge that gun control only limits the rights of law abiding citizens and that criminals will still have guns.
> I summation OP is a lazy collosal faggot and if it piled it's dildo collection outside it could probably be seen from space.

Dude, u crazy, even if you're a troll.

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>lol you need guns to stop dictatorships? Lol we would like literally never have a dictator, paranoid much? :^)))
>omg Trump is totes a fascist! He's literally Hitler!
Pick one libcucks

AWB was proven to have had no effect

ncjrs.gov/app/publications/abstract.aspx?ID=204431

Brady bill had no effect

jama.jamanetwork.com/mobile/article.aspx?articleid=192946

Gg faggot

> comparing the challenges of Honduras, a lower middle-income country in Central America beleaguered by corruption and violence from the drug trade and gangs, to Switzerland, an affluent country nestled in western Europe.

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So basically,

prove to me a legit reason I deem legit for owning a gun, but you cannot use all these perfectly legit reasons because I don't like them.

The post

Here's your you. Continue to ignore facts because they hurt your feels.

>europe
>not third-world status

you have to go back

Sure brah, gun control works.
Ask México, we have gun control and one of the highest gun violence crimes per capita.
¡TOTALLY WORKS!. (it's sarcasm, in case you are too autistic to understand)

> ignoring the complex socioeconomic and cultural differences in each state

>Louisiana
niggers gonna nig

Training is training, nigga. You don't hafta be a soldier to train to shoot.

Thanks for giving me an excuse to post scatter plots.

Nice rare flag m80

Gun ownership negatively correlates with median income and positively correlates with poverty rates.

> algeria
> rare

you have to go back

Here's one of the few things that correlate significantly with homicide per state.

and build wall

you ever heard of "the law of the land" faggot?

>muh you'll never stand up to an oppressive government argument

Pic related you defeatist faggots.

This relates to the US. Federal regulation of guns is difficult when considering the vastly different social, political, and economic climates of various regions, states, and cities with thousands of miles between them.

#ImWithHillHer

>somebody PLEASE give me

Do you lack the critical thinking skills needed to form your own opinion?

>practically nobody
not an argument

>If guns were illegal no one would need one
Checked Britbong news lately?

They should teach kids how to shoot guns in school. Then when Billy wants to act tough, Billy's class is ready for him.

People dont hunt for food fucking retard. Hunting serves a recreational purpose and is an effective form of population control. There is a reason why hunting is regulated and its because a bunch of fat rednecks arent just allowed to freely go out and genocide the wildlife.

>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you
and you post this the day a member of the British parliament is shot dead ?

because of freedom

All these fools falling for this weak bait.

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Shill you responded back to your own thread as if you are someone else this sumple proves how much of an idiot you are and why you are a pawn in hillary's game you kike

I think banning unhealthy food would have a greater impact on the death count of us citizens. We could start there then move on to the next point.

Ow while we are at it percentage wise how many gun owners kill other people with their legal obtained gun? Compare it to the deaths as a result of people carrying illegal obtained guns?

You can restrict all you want, you'll still have deaths by firearms, learn how to handle a gun and yourself and the chances are that you will never use it on another person.

To give you a good example Switzerland, almost 1 in 2 persons own a gun, no gun violence... Really makes you think.

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>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.

This must be a bait or OP is really retarded. Since when criminals will not be able to get illegal guns?

>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.
wew, that's just retarded.

#IamWithHitler

>2 posts by this ID

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Further confirmation there isn't a solid liberal argument with this self jerk-off post.

Please die shill shit.

The actual morons usually stop posting once they get BTFO

the shills and spammers stick to >1 post by this ID

More pertinently, he's unable to grasp that people can attack other people without guns.

Sage and report this garbage.

>giving any attention to an attempt this blatant
Sage shill threads
Hide shill posts
Report shills

>pro tip: Self defense is not a legit reason
Yes it is.
>pro tip: Target shooting is not a legit reason,
Yes it is.
>pro tip: Stopping an oppressive government is not a legit reason.
Yes it is.
>pro tip: Hunting is not a legit reason.
Yes it is.

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>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense.
Hahahahaha

>Citing the second amendment is not a legit reason. Presser v. Illinois (1886) ruled that individual States do have the right to regulate gun ownership.

you implying it gives the ability to ban ownership?

jesus the cognitive brain damage caused by your mental illness is deep

>Self defense is not a legit reason, if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with so you would not need a gun for self defense. also you are far more likely to accidentally kill yourself or a family member with a gun than to use it for self defense. owning a gun is simply not a good idea.

Self-defense isn't just about defending against other people with guns. It's also about defending against wildlife.

For instance, here in Texas I get rattlesnakes that decide they want to live in my yard. They're pretty dangerous. They strike faster than I can react and have longer reach than me with a shovel. I have to kill them with a shotgun. It's the only safe way for me to take care of the problem.

I agree that we need to close the loopholes for buying guns and that we don't need assault rifles, but guns absolutely need to stay legal.

>if guns were illegal nobody would have a gun to attack you with

AHAHAHA LIBKEKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS

You are a child

>France
>108 dead

WILL NOT BE INFRINGED

Seriously

I'm up for stricter gun control but let me ask you something OP.
Hypothetically, to start, suppose we ban guns outright. Criminal elements still have guns. What's the answer to this?
>Nobody gets guns
Crime becomes a much more dangerous force to deal with to EVERYONE.
>Only Police and Military
Do you really believe all police are 1) Pure and entirely law abiding 2) Incapable of making mistakes 3) not available for usage to the local government, which without guns (aside from those posessed by criminals) can be a very very bad thing.
If you have any sort of intelligence in that brain of your's consider these things. Consider how they would enforce a total gun ban, immediate turn in followed by seizure of all weapons? Home invasions in search of weapons?
Instead, we just apply more stringent laws on ownership right up to psych evals. Sure, people will be pissed and some folks will lose their guns but not everyone, cops still reasonably retain their stock, and the civilian populace doesn't get left out to dry.

Everyone who's against gun ownership is anti-democratic.
In past, owning weapons was a nobility privilege.
In authoritharian/totalitarian regimes, it's the privilege of armed forces/police.
In a true democracy, it's the privilege of people, because in democracy there are no nobles and serfs.
First thing all Soviet-style socialist regimes did was ban guns.
State is there to serve the people, not to control them per se.
Guns are the means to prevent worst abuses of authority.
Deaths are tragic. Impotence of people against their very own government is a disaster.

wait does that mean that the issue isn't actually related to guns?

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Mathematically speaking?

All I know is that I can walk through any neighborhood of Tokyo at night and never worry about being shot, stabbed, or robbed.

I am an American and I believe in gun rights, but stop pretending America doesn't have a serious problem with violent crime (many of which are committed using firearms).

For a Japanese tourist to visit America is to multiply one's chances of being shot by many times. In Japan, violent gun crime is mathematically nothing. In America, it's something.

I agree, after viewing your comic I clearly don't want to side with that fat, big headed, messy redneck.

>if guns were illegal no one would have a gun
We have the largest gun manufacture ring industry in the world dumbass. Someone's always going to have guns and people are always going to get ahold of them. Hell some people make their own. It's one of the last true American industries in this country!

only if you sell me your flag.

American problem with violent crime is the problem with their black and Hispanic population.
They won't really hand over their guns you know?
And this issue is more than just crime. There needs to be a balance of force. Government should have monopoly on violence, but people should have the means to defend themselves when their rights are infringed on.
Without that balance, there is no democracy. Without core rights that can't be restricted, there is no democracy.
Being anti-gun is anti-democratic. It's a valid stance, don't get me wrong, but don't pretend you believe in democracy then.
Rifle is one of things that made democracy. Any man could pick a rifle and kill the most trained noble.

It's yours friend, for free :^)

Those violent crimes wouldn't go away just because you took the weapon. People who commit crimes are usually intent on finding a way to commit them, or do so in fits of rage. Such people are not going to be dissuaded by not being properly equipped. A disarmed populace is a commie subversion tactic, not a genuine attempt to safeguard public welfare.