Sub 37

Worth it? Or can I get a VST to get a good Moog sound? At the end of the day, i'm more interested in getting the sound. Pretty much just using it for the bass too (think Parliament bass and hip-hop sub bass stuff, Dr. Dre too). I have Diva right now but don't find the Moog stuff to be as fat as it could be. Monark maybe? Costs come into consideration too.

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>Parliament bass and hip-hop sub bass stuff, Dr. Dre too

Moog is what you’ll want for this. It’s what they used to make that iconic sound on those genres. bob moog’s Ladder filter provides a low end resonance boost unlike other filters. And unfortunately this is an area of signal flow that isn’t emulated well in VSTs.

Also, sub series are great for complex sound design, but if you want a thicker sound check out the older phatty series.

If you Moog sounds, get a Moog.

OP as someone whose used both vsts and hardware synths, are the hardware ones easier to programme?

I've downloaded vsts but fuck sitting there for hours tweaking it with a mouse. I have the impression that a hardware synth will be easier to programme because all the buttons are in front of you.

But like you said, dem prices though

Yeah, it's a shame. Looking up comparisons of VSTs though and the Legend holds up amazingly well, imo. Diva has a better filter for Moog but it suffers with it's waveforms

I think it's a mixture of beliving the hardware synths sounds better and because you have "hands on" control. I used to find VSTs hard to programme too but you use various methods to get amore hands on approach. A midi controller with a lot of knobs for example, can give you a similar feel. Ableton live has it's macros, which are great for some really important things you'd want to control manually (cut off, for example)

If I could get a Model D in a second, I would, but I am just a broke student :(

>Synths go for around 1.5k bongistani money which is like 2k dollary-doos

And people wonder why everyone becomes a rapper nowadays. You need a small fortune to make music with real instruments

>ha ha dude we're living in an analogue revival! Geta korg vocla or a minilogue xD

I mean they're great as toys but not actual instruments. VSTs are the only realistic option for a lot of young people, sadly.

>are the hardware ones easier to programme?
not necessarily, complex ones are often much harder

making music now is cheaper than it ever has been

software gives you far more power anyway

Yeah a standard fender or Gibson goes for like 1k

I'm sure drums are even more ridiculous

It's this, user. Also, you can wait a few weeks for the shops to get the new Behringer Model D. From all reports, a very hardware good clone of the mini-moog at a price not much more than a VST.

I use Novation Bass Station II for synth bass. Obviously not the same as a moog, but I love it and have zero complaints. Also it was $300

Just spend more time with VSTs. Getting a midi controller helps because you can map out the different functions. Hardware might be more fun to use, but you still have to spend time with it to fully understand what it can do

>buying Behringer gear
I'd rather be forced to use only Audacity to make music for the rest of my life than buy any Behringer products

just wait for the behringer model d

this

and the whole planet will worship your integrity and principles, user.

A good option, but more of a replacement for that Roland SH101 sound. It can also do decent squelchy acid bass, but can't really replicate the Moog filter sound.

and yet every demo of their clones sounds fantastic.

the BS2 is really a chameleon. It can do a lot of sounds, but doesn't do any of them really well (like a moog does the mood sound, or how the 303 does the acid sound).

It's a very good synth, I own one. It has to be one of the best bang for bucks buy out there atm.

Hey Op,
Coming from a dude who has a Voyager, subsequent 37 and an old school model D, i honestly think you’ll get the most bang for your buck getting the Sub Phatty.

The Sub37 is really new school moog, brittle and a little dry. The Voyager is definetly the monster of both worlds but a lot more change. I really think the Sub Phatty would get what you’re looking for and you’ll have extra cash for some pedals to run it through.

A demo might sound good, but there will be a huge backlash once these synths start fucking up and breaking down after a few months. Behringer makes very cheap products. If Moog is what someone wants, then they should save and get one, rather than getting a knockoff that everyone is going to make fun of because it's a Behringer. Never go cheap when buying a synth. The headaches and shitty build quality are not worth it

You shouyld be able to get a Sub Phatty for about half the prce of a Sub37. What you get for your extra $$ in the Sub37 is much less menu diving. Sub Phatty, I think, requires much menu diving with not the best interface for doing this.

I completely agree, although I would prefer it over a VST trying to replicate a moog sound

Wtf are you talking about? Obviously the volcas are toys but the minilogue is actually a real instrument

Anything with mini keys is not a real instrument

damn gramps, you're really dating yourself here. behringer has been legit for a couple of years now, and audacity is surprisingly useful at times. i work at a radio station and audacity is used along with pro tools, logic, and other broadcasting specific software.

the behringer model d is the most accurate clone of the minimoog and it only costs $300. that's your absolute best option (outside of spending $3k+ on a vintage or reissued minimoog).

which sounds like shit 99% of the time

what if I just wasted $700 on an iPad and want the same thing as OP? is there any iOS synth that could get at least close?

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>made by moog

>I didn't buy it when it was half that price like 2 weeks ago

>all muh music gear has to be on budget