>People unironically put J "steals musical adds shitty drums to it" Dilla in the same level as Jimi Hendrix and John Coltrane
Hip Hop will never be taken seriously fuck off with this notion. Dilla doesn't play an instrument (nobody associated with Hip Hop can besides a very few select few that play like kids in a music fund high school band) besides the ""sampler"". Your """""instrument""""" is literally named after stealing music. That's fucking pathetic.
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sampler is the future of music dipshit
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watch that and tell me his creative process was not as meticulous and skilled as people who play conventional instruments. he managed to isolate drums in certain songs from the listening mix and not from master recordings
Your opinion of his opinion is correct.
he won't get it user, don't even try. He is just here to hate stuff and express his "opinion". I'm sure he won't even try to get into why Dilla is mentioned in the same vein as Coltrane and Hendrix
You could make the same argument about the people who only "found" violins or pianos or whatever. You didn't 'compose' everything from scratch! The whole notion of musical authorship is manufactured.
Besides, the point of Donuts is that J Dilla did compositional things that weren't possible with instruments alone. The advent of easily recorded and played back music meant an increase in the amounts of sounds humans could produce, so why not embrace it?
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Listening to music =//= playing it
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rockists ruin this board with their le wrong generation angst
That's nice and all, but have you tried not being a cunt about your opinion?
Sampling is a perfectly valid way to create music.
Because it is unnatural and dehumanizing. It creates a man controlled by the whims of machines.
>Sampling is a perfectly valid way to create music.
I guess tracing is also a valid way of making art too?
Tracing isn't a good analogy for it, it's closer to something like pop art where they take cut outs or parts of other works, slightly manipulate them, and combine them with other elements to create something new without any truly original parts.
And yes, pop art is still art.
Rockist virgins lmao
t. rockist who "composes" songs with 3 hand positions
composing is better than taking.
I know this is a bait thread but I'm just dropping in here with a quick PSA because I think I can see where this is going:
If you're coming into this thread to post something along the lines of Madlib/Flying Lotus/Nujabes/[insert Sup Forumscore producer here] being a better or more influential musician than J Dilla you straight up have no idea what you're talking about and you should learn your fucking history and come back
Thanks! Have a good one
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everything you think is original is stolen
this. i like this. i’m the guy that posted the questlove video. these rockists also forget that multi-track instrumentation is usually done piece by piece and bounced together in the mix down
Just because his music is wasted on you doesn't mean it's without value.
>Hurr Durr samplers aren't instruments
How about you go grab an MPC so you can show everyone how easy it is to flip a sample like Dilla.
>Unnatural
>Dehumanising
Spooks detected... argument invalid
Dumb, filthy anime posting scum
Are you angry dude?
There's nothing you can do with an instrument that hasn't been done before. That's why hip hop is thriving and popular, while rock is not.
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Because the music he made was really interesting. There's more to sampling than looping 4 seconds of jazz and rapping about the hood, I'll bet you fucking love Since I Left You and you're not criticizing that.
This is a cute aphorism. But it makes no fucking sense applied to Dilla or sampling.
Agreed, Dilla is bumpin fellow ally
Daily reminder than sampling is not stealing if it's transformative. And if you actually see how dilla created his music, it's pretty fuckin transformative