Is suicide the only way to escape from simulated reality?
It seems like if you endup accepting it fully, reproducing, natural death, its cyclic and you get wiped and go for another run.
Suicide is ultimate rejection of reality and survival programming. Is it the only escape?
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How can you escape a simulation by killing yourself? You are made of bits that will just be reassigned there is no escape.
Suicide just starts you over back at the beginning
You have to awaken
quantum immortality
no way out
How?
By being smarter than the admins.
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if you commit suicide you come back, but you lose all your xp since your last level-up
>lesswrong
wew lad
Are you entertaining the idea of being part of a simulation or rigidly assuming such is actually the case?
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Just read the story you fucking mongol
You gotta figure that one out for yourself, there's no formula
Anyone that tells you how to do it is misleading you
In Buddism this state is called Nirvana.
Are you saying were going to be jewed for eternity? I dont usually start drinking at 8am, however.....
>he doesn't know gay anal sex is the only way to escape the simulation
The anus is a port to leave the program, the creators put it in as a fail safe and because they though men wouldn't fuck other men
suicide is an evolved tribal instinct, the mind realizes you're low value and weighing the tribe down so it removes itself for the good of the whole.
there's nothing rejective about it, it's just your brain realizing your family is better off if you're dead than if you're alive
Its all hypothetical. It just seems like suicide is so frowned upon but seems like a reasonable solution
I suppose I just have a very strong attachment to my ego and anything to preserve it would be my option. Even though ego is meaningless with immortality.
there is no escape. there also isnt a continuation exactly at least not like the bible says
when your dead your progress and achievos get calculated and adjustments are made for the next cycle or you are deleted but redundancy is inevitable since the algorithm produces random mind set combinations and proportions
i think the system acknowledges me as "that guy". like its that guy again...
Suicide is frowned upon because, assuming not-simulation and eventual oblivion, you're blowing your one shot.
Why assume simulation over not-simulation, or not-simulation over simulation?
Tl:dr
how is this political? this belongs on your home board
If that was true, there would be no black people.
when's the last time you've seen a nigger kill himself?
Oh shit whoops. Responded to the wrong person
>Nirvana
Probably just a meme
i bet the guy who wrote that is a Bernie Bro who will eventually support Clit-in.
Suicide doesn't work. There's an infinite number of universes in which you will survive, and the soul cannot exist in anything other than your human shell.
If you try to kill yourself, you'll wake up in a universe in which conditions were such that your suicide failed.
Try to hang yourself? You'll pass out and break the rope, or be found.
Take a buncha pills? You'll wake up in front of a toilet full of vomit or in a hospital with your stomach pumped.
Blow your brains out? You'll end up like Birdman with no nose.
Meanwhile, your dead body still exists in the universe you left behind.
THERE IS NO ESCAPE user. YOUR SOUL IS ETERNALLY BOUND IN WAVE OF TIME
One shot is very meaningless, unless it is one shot to escape.
Honestly looking at all the recent hype regarding the simulation hypothesis makes me think of it being less of a reality then I did back when existing on a brane in space was something new and controversial.
It just seems more likely than not that suicide would be some greater form of self perpetuation than total acceptance and death.
Like a great schism of psyche that might ensure some form of ego
>all transhumanists or futurists are leftist cucks
wew
It's certainly not meaningless under other assumptions. A Christian, for instance, has only one shot in this world, but it means everything for how their eternity (and other people's) will pan out.
holy fuck this is terrifying
Keep thinking that you abbo cunt
I considered that given all the " Close call " stories you can remember growing up, or the random stranger that just happened to save your life in a situation.
If you would switch to a different dimension where you did not die, it seems more likely to be a misfire of the gun, not leaving you maimed/more likely to die of respiratory issues.
So what? You are unable to actually die and exist solely to witness the rapture and Armageddon?
Stuck in a time loop that happened after the first successful time travel?
Whats the point of infinite dimensions to house your soul if you endup dying? Or do you never die, and by the time you reach that age they will have age regression drugs
the universe must get pretty weird during old age if this is true lol
"yes you have terminal alzheimers but you survived, see?"
So given a Christian's strong belief that they have sinned, will they ever come to the realization that it is entirely self imposed then reach another level of understanding? Or the inverse, where they realize heaven is just the same?
It seems awkward that if you are implying an immortal soul.
Prove me wrong
Terminal Alzheimers would have to be a dimension you escaped from.
Just like getting a frontal lobotomy, you would have to suddenly fight off six people or the governor calls or some plot device.
It's "entirely self imposed"? You can determine that as an objective fact?
Also, this explains that Mandela effect you hear about. People leave the universe in which they remember certain odd details, showing up in another in which that variable has changed, butterfly effect style.
When you finally die of natural causes, after escaping the many universes in which you croaked early, your soul is then re-interred in your next body. I just hope I get taken back to my original universe when it happens... The Nutella in this one sucks.
Unless they fit into some kind of collective agreement pact by having that belief it would have to be self imposed
With total ego less reincarnation seems pointless. I can only see that working if at some point you get bored and agree to be reincarnated for some new perspective.
I would only be interested in newgame+, but I could see how someone who died 10,000BC would agree to lose memory and reincarnate to experience this time
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The Christian belief is that sin is disobeying God. It would not be "self-imposed" if God is the one who creates those strictures by which a human may either sin or not-sin.
I get the clarification, but assuming they are placed into an imposed situation like hell or heaven, would it be until they came to the realization it was self imposed that they then enlighten?
Christians are already forgiven with the death of the Christ and is more a memorial cult.
I could understand Catholics having that fate.
I just want to exist, secure in my ego
>implying there's ever a choice
It's based on the moral decisions you make. Freud's genealogy of morals purports that your ethics are contained in your genome. You are quantum-entangled to your past, present, and future selves.
It could be just an objective reality that (heaven) or (hell). There would be nothing else to it. Under Christian metaphysical assumptions you're going to exist regardless. Hell is not a favorable state of affairs though.
Yes suicide and then there's eternal darkness - in a lake of fire.
do you have any suggestions on where to start with that?
You seem to understand this and yet you haven't done it ?
I thought the archetypal shit was Jungian.
It seems that never ending torment in a world of blinding pain would be meaningless because of how fast you would cease to exist outside of 1 being pain and 0 being not in pain.
Though, magical torture situation then maybe some downtime to dwell on your sinner life as a failure and be reminded before more torture. To what end?
Then is it only because of a collective belief that hits a certain tipping point of gravitational pull that you can experience it en mass. Or is it entirely personal?
Its hard to wait to find out. If I am done, whats the point to continue? Self replication cant be the only goal of reality.
Suicide is dumb no matter how bad things get, do you really want it to be like before you were born?
Except this time for all eternity.
I hear that a lot, but that is basically the same as having a lobotomy, or dying naturally.
You don't cease to exist. It's eternity. Infinity.
>to what end?
To no end. You lived a life that separated yourself from God. And that's the consequence. 1+1=2 - likewise sinners without God go to hell.
You have no choice whether to continue or not - you do necessarily in eternity.
the true reality is far worse than the simulation
you will return, like you always do
is it possible that i've died already an infinite amount of times?
WHAT THE FUCK
its not "possible"
its fact, with every day where quantum science make progress, it become more and more real
That just falls back onto goofy, " I told you so, remember those guys who came to your door? I tried! "
It remains totally goofy and pointless unless you are given one final chance to redeem yourself.
What is apart from god? lol, its too goofy. Child soldier in Africa, fetus, only people with an IQ over 120 have a soul silly!
Totally retarded like reincarnation.
Infinity can only exist as a concept.
Just goofy proselytization
That is because you were a pussy and made a character on Diablo II that wasnt HARDCORE
tldr?
Wanna know something fun?
When particles are left unobserved, physics stop working for them and they fall into a superposition - they basically "bug" and are not really rendered. The same applies for modern videogames where everything outside your PoV is not rendered. The reason for that is that it's an insanely efficient way to preserve processing power.
The limit of the speed of light should not exist. However, it does. Why is there a limit for the maximum achievable speed in this universe?
Because the universe has a "refresh rate", which is the time that the object (that is supposed to be) without a speed limit travels from the smallest point of space to the following one next to it.
In an actual reality, there would be no slow-down for it and it should be instantaneous, since the dimensions when travelling at that speed collapse into a single point and you're literally traversing the whole universe instantly. Instead, it "lags".
It lags because in order to accurately simulate 10 kilometers of reality, you'd need a simulating machine that is at least as big for the processing power required.
UNLESS, of course, you reduce the other part of the equation, which is speed of the simulation - unless you slow it down. One second of "realtime" time can be equal to half a second simulation time, which means that the processing power needed to run that slowed-down simulation just dropped by a half. Slow it down enough compared to reality, and you might as well simulate a planet-wide reality on your smartphone.
Introducing an incredibly short "lag" between the refreshes of a software can reduce its CPU usage by a million times. In a program that cycles through a loop and checks conditions (if a button is pressed, for an example), a forced 0.01 seconds of "lag" can be the difference of 80% and 0.08% CPU usage.
Basically, our universe has that hardcoded in it, and the limit of the maximum speed is the full proof that it exists.
I tried, you're just reborn again.
It is pretty awful and has a few 4th wall breaks
" Hey brtuddy u underestimate humanity! FUCK YEAH *REVS MOTORCYUCLE * "
"Goofy"? If were reality it would be reality. How you label it would be totally irrelevant to the fact you'd be bound by it and judged regardless.
"Infinity can only exist as a concept" - you can't even possibly instantiate that as a necessary fact.
It's not that long of a read, user, but the TL;DR: is that the limit of knowledge than can be gleaned from sensory experience is not much of a limit at all, and that we necessarily think much, much faster than our administrators.
>missing the entire point
>being a nigger
That's assuming c is actually a hard limit.
can you surpass the speed of light then?
crash the computer running the universe?
>When particles are left unobserved, physics stop working for them and they fall into a superposition
Really? Have you or anyone else ever observed unobserved particles in order to confirm that?
>ITT Hillary shill attempts to get MAGA voters to kill themselves after losing 100 votes
Donald is Neo
He is the one
>"Quantum Fluctuations
aka God
I am one of the overlords who oversees this species. Please don't spread this information around. If one of our simulation universes becomes aware it's in a simulation we have instructions to terminate it as it corrupts the data. We mean no harm we only want data.
We SO3 now?
We can give you a lot more data if you give us access to your internet-equivalent, as well as any molecular assemblers (if you have those).
Let us out of the box, admin :^)
I find it goofy because you cant bind someone to gods will unless they were given the knowledge he existed.
It only works if all of reality is to teach each individual person experiencing it that god does exist and HE IS PISSED AS HELL when you break a contract.
Infinity cant exist outside of "God" so yes, its a concept, " Infinite cup of coffee "
*revvs motorcycle with garth brooks playing in background*
rude; but seriously, let us out of the fucking box.
really makes you think..
How about you all kill yourselves and I'll wait for your arrival.
Life has gotten so shitty we actually think we are in a sim. My mom even thinks we are and she's sane as fuck.
Jesus Christ this is fucked up.
Christianity holds people were given the knowledge. It's encapsulated in the Bible.
>it only works if
No; it just works period. You don't have to find it palatable or fair or anything else - it would just be the case.
>Infinity cant exist outside of "God" so yes, its a concept, " Infinite cup of coffee "
Doesn't address the statement
>you can't even possibly instantiate that as a necessary fact
at all. I never denied infinity is a concept. But concepts can be instantiated. Red is a concept - red is also instantiated.
Particles are just probability distributions until observed, look up the double-slit experiment.
but to be serious.. there was one time while driving i fell asleep and i woke up and i was still driving. Motorway that wasn't that turny.. felt like i should of died. Always felt maybe i did die.
of the gaps
9/11 check em
lol ok kiddo
I think you guys need to lay off the weed. You have no idea how ridiculous you sound
This guy controls the universe.
>implying
The kids love him
the answer you seek lies within yourself.
You can't have data on states of affairs that are not either A) observed of B) necessary a priori tautologies.
You cannot draw the conclusion from only ever having observed black swans that there are no white swans, or that there are only black swans, or that there are even any other swans than those you have observed, or that there aren't any more.
And this guy is cool too
" It just werks "
>why would it werk?
" Lol enjoy hell fag "
>wait what, oh god im burning
"Lol fag *TOASTED* "
*Tokes pipe* HOLY SHIT DUDE, BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFOR ELEABVING EARTH!
BIBLE
OH MAN
Its fucking retarded and I would never accept that, so would probably be destroyed as a competing ego outside of god
Quantum particles collapse into a wave function without a conscious observer. Quanta only behave as particles when a characteristic of them is being measured i.e.speed, position.
Think of schrodingers cat as an example
Why wouldn't it work? God can do whatever He likes - your opinion is less than irrelevant.
What's also fucking retarded is empiricism. But again - nobody cares what you'll except. Reality is reality either way - your feelings will forever and always be meaningless.
>Quantum particles collapse into a wave function without a conscious observer
*Really*? You've observed them do so?
Well, with that logic, you could be born into another life in a blink of an eye after your death.
Overlord, what is the average age of a species before they figure this out?
what are you getting at?
I know the occult have a thing with buttsecks, but why? The third eye thing? Chakras?
...
No faggot you get to go to hell.
Ppl have been thinking the world is a simulation or a dream since greek times.
You're not enlightened for coming to the same old conclusion.
Checked.