Why would I want to watch something so ridiculous?
Why would I want to watch something so ridiculous?
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>2big man fight each other
because youre goddamn cuck who would rather watch ur wife getting banged by 3 niggers
The worst thing about that movie is how they make superman stupid and slow. The man can move faster than thought... how is Batman supposed to get the drop on him?
because it's MOTY
>MOTY
you mean KOTY
Because it may be the last time we have a semi serious cape flick (with famous characters).
Mould of the year
Kooch of the year
Wrong
The whole film is awful
Wrong
Wrong
It tries to be serious but the whole thing is one long joke
there's always Civil War with the iconic and groundbreaking airport fight
It's unintentionally hilarious, all that serious tone for some big dumb cgi ending and shitty attempts at quipping, it's amazing in its own way.
Fuark, why does Zack Snyder have such good taste in physiques for his subjects?
spooky skeleton lady is good taste in physique for wonder woman?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahhaahahahahhaahhaahahahahahahahaahhahahaahhaahahhaaha
Irrelevant, seeing as only men can be beautiful.
what went so fucking wrong with wonder woman??
Why are B/v/S shills so feminine and love cock so much?
They actually believe that Snyder is a good director because he lifts, they're just huge faggots.
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if any male superhero had the same physique as gal gadot would they be taken seriously?
her arms looks as big as mine did when i was starting out and did mostly bodyweight stuff like pushups and dips. when i started actually working out (lifting) even tiny amounts my arms shot up pretty quickly. it's obvious she does just cardio and maybe lifting 5 pounds here and there
You are both philistines, the male form is and will always be inherently superior to the degenerated female.
I appreciate Snyder because he is a true classicist and so far, really the only neo-classical director.
Plastic man would be one of the few to get away with it.
Pathetic and pretentious like all DCucks.
>women
>big arms
>ever
This woman is pound for pound the best bench presser of all time. This is pretty much the extent of size for a woman's arm (disregarding landwhales)
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>classical
I don't care about comic books, I care about Zack Snyder's direction.
An innovative and interesting shot. Once again you are simply a pleb triggered by formalism.
>innovative
looks like fucking garbage desu
kys
Could you be any more pretentious though?
this is so terrible
This is unironically the funniest movie of the year. Watched it multiple times already and I even tricked my friends into seeing it.
Honestly, it's an abomination of a movie, a failure on a level nearly incomprehensible, but I can't bring myself to dislike it. It's just too fucking funny.
marvelcucks triggered
again
>The worst thing about that movie is how they make superman grimdark and serious all the time when he's actually this nice friendly guy when he isn't kicking some supervillain's ass
Fixed that for ya.
>Movie about 2 superheros fighting eachother
>Try to make it grimdark and deep
>Ends up being boring and at times, horrible
All the plots holes made me feel like a real autist
This.
It's either a marvelcuck or someone who didn't understand it who shits on this film.
Imagine having a life this empty and devoid of meaning.
kek
Zack Snyder is the only maker of ‘popular’ films who has a vision and sensibility that stirs great feeling and profound thought.
Meh. I liked Batman rescuing Superdude's mom and... yes, I liked Wonder Woman. Both the actress and the character are very feminine and tough as fucking nails.
The biggest misstep in the entire production is the appointment of Zack Snyder as director. It seem like he just walked of the set of making Watchmen and nobody seemed to tell him that he wasn't contracted to direct a lackluster patchwork Watchmen sequel. An opening scene that features Jeffrey Dean Morgan being killed with a slo-mo shot of a shell casing exiting a gun; the government against masked vigilantes, a powerful god-like superhuman figure; a man that dresses in a black costume and fights crime with gadgets coming out of retirement; the death of a famous hero; not one, but three funeral scenes. How is this not recycling elements of Watchmen.
Zack Snyder has the inability to direct scenes where no action takes place and he can't mask it with stylish cgi backgrounds like he did in 300. Simply put when there's no explosions it dull and boring. Simple character interactions prove to be a struggle for a director who still gets his philosophy for his movies from teenage web forums. Religious references that completely lack subtlety and elegance doesn't make you movie 'intellectual'.
Other grievances include: a scene and a plot point that revolves around urine; Lex Luther's so called evil plan; Knightmare; a hyped fight that just ends up being a normal fistfight; and actual teaser trailers for future movies in the franchise.
see
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>Batman saves Sups mom just like that
How the fuck did Superman didn't :
1. Hear his mom being taken but heard Louis falling off a buliding
2. Couldn't just find his mom with his superhearing and x-ray vision whilst flying around town
3. Couldn't just levitate above Bats and say "They have my mom, help"
4. Didn't just beat Lex to a pulp, making him tell Sups everything
How did Batman just magically know where she was?
Why didn't he just tell Superman where she was? Superman is pretty fast, he could've handle a few guys with assault rifles and go to Lex in a matter of seconds
KEK
Tryhard and pretentious.
Wrong
>1. Hear his mom being taken but heard Louis falling off a buliding
She was in Kansas
>2. Couldn't just find his mom with his superhearing and x-ray vision whilst flying around town
"If you fly away Martha also dies"
>3. Couldn't just levitate above Bats and say "They have my mom, help"
Sups looks like tyrant when he levitate.
>and say "They have my mom, help"
He tried. Bruce was obssessed and didn't listen
>4. Didn't just beat Lex to a pulp, making him tell Sups everything
W-what?
>How did Batman just magically know where she was?
Alfred: I've tracked the Russians phone to warehouse near port.
>Superman is pretty fast, he could've handle a few guys with assault rifles and go to Lex in a matter of seconds
Are you retarded?
wow, his filters really do look like shit
Batman v Superman is simply the representation of the artistic bankruptcy plaguing the contemporary film industry.
Like Man of Steel, Snyder's last endeavor in hackery, this latest attempt is to convince the masses that what they are viewing is something deep or meaningful, when all it has done is push forward shallow technicality and exaggeration to make the frame pulsate with vulgar loudness. Characters are mere veneers, the cinematography is pretty but so conspicuous as to be rendered aggravating and the thesis is about as overdone as Eisenberg's acting. The camera feels like it has been waiting all day for a climactic shot and the film's deliberately difficult production history is laid bare in the indulgent cinematography.
Thematic complexity and philosophical subtext take a back seat to what amounts to as basically an action movie with action stars wrapped up in the veil of capekino. And much like Salome, what lies beneath is ultimately puerile, obscene and holding fascination only for adolescents.
Snyder is guilty of something far greater than simply making a bad movie. He is guilty for the crime of gestating his pretense and self-importance, forcing many others to labor over it in a misguided attempt to create art and daring to call the afterbirth a film. Perhaps instead of taking his cast and crew to greenscreen rooms in search of a better shot, the American counterfeit filmmaker should have taken his juvenile and crass sensibilities to the seedy San Fernando valley. There he could have at least made a profit of filming all the money shots he wanted.
For those of you that do not understand Zack Snyder, please read this (short) text and then reconsider.
Don't read this shit.
What a waste of time.
it's a very tedious heavy movie
its like eating a triple decker peanut butter sandwich without anything to drink and then waiting two days to shit it out
and affleck looked fat
Batman v Superman is the last blockbuster with artistic ambitions. It's visually the movie of the year by a mile and the only real issues it has is that it is overstuffed and the JL shoehorning, Wonder Woman being especially bad. Everything else is just marlelcucks being triggered that a movie with a premise that absurd end up being better than all MCU movies but three (Iron Man 1, First Avenger and Winter Soldier). The movie was a 6.5/10 at very best but still that's quite high for the capeshit standard
>inb4 triggered shills
Post away your laughing cucks, I'd be the one laughing in real life
>She was in Kansas
Wasn't he on some remote mountain when he heard Louis?
>"If you fly away Martha also dies"
Again, he can move at superhuman speed, how can Lex know where he is? Not to mention Lex fucked off to do his own thing
>Sups looks like tyrant when he levitate.
So?
>He tried. Bruce was obssessed and didn't listen
Say "Wait..." "Listen to me..." and all that long pause shit doesn't count
>Alfred: I've tracked the Russians phone to warehouse near port.
How can Alfred track the Russians just like that? I'd argue that sending Batman to save her lowers her chances of survival but we needed another Batman scene so there you go
>Are you retarded?
Are you? Explain to me why what I said is stupid in any way
Not him, but Superman kicking ass to save his mom would be incredibly risky. Why would he jeopardize her life like that?
Snyder uses the figures of Batman and Superman walloping each other to give visible substance to social and moral issues, much as Greek tragedy does. He takes the wildest, Bizarro World fiction — of two superheroes turned super foes — and uses the premise to explicate our current dilemmas concerning power, principles, and divinity. It helps that Snyder is also visionary, inclined to extravagant spectacle and gifted with a signature erotic touch. With its legal-brief title, Batman v Superman reflects the confusion that pits secularists against believers, and the partisanship that inhibits national alliance. This tension is so visually amped up that the opposition of Batman to Superman feels revelatory: Man versus the god in Man.
Snyder’s opening sequences interweave the origin stories of these mythic heroes and their alter egos. What has become overly familiar through years of repetition acquires new dynamism — and new understanding — that particularizes and personalizes each wounded man’s suffering. Not only are these time-shifts audacious, but so is Snyder’s proposition about the nature of heroism and vengeance: Both stem from the way individuals react to and comprehend their experiences.
In this age of petty Marvels, most comic-book movies merely perpetrate fantasies of power, but Snyder, enacting his personal aesthetic, braves a film that examines those fantasies. He boldly challenges popular culture’s current decay, intending to resolve the conflict between commerce and art, power and morality. “Knowledge with no power is paradoxical,” one character says. “Man made a world where standing together is impossible,” frets another. With Batman v Superman, the battle for the soul of American culture is on.
>Wasn't he on some remote mountain when he heard Louis?
He WAS. Who said that he was on mountain all day?
>Again, he can move at superhuman speed
But he isn't Flash
>So?
So sups wanted to talk with Bruce like equals
>Say "Wait..." "Listen to me..." and all that long pause shit doesn't count
Count
>How can Alfred track the Russians just like that?
Bruce download files from his phone at the beginning of the film.
It's really funny, how marvelcucks trying to nitpick every aspect in BvS trying to find plot-holes, when you can find them easily in Civil War without nitpicking
And sending Batman isn't? He crashes through the floor to fight a few armed guys, causing a ruckus in the process which can make the people in the other room just shoot his mom
Yet Superman ,in the begining of the movie, handles the exact same situation in mere seconds and with less chances of the hostage dying
Pretentious and puddle deep.
Sharing this is embarrassing.
ITT: DCucks triggered and BTFO
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The guards are obeying commands from Lex. Lex says they may kill her if Superman tries to save her. Batman is not Superman. They do not have permission to kill her when the Batman arrives. It is something Lex, in his arrogance, did not think of. It's actually one of the few parts of the movie with its own merits. There's a lot of others things to pick on.
Just because Sup Forums is a contrarian paradise, doesn't mean that if you hate DC then you love Marvel and vise versa
Your rebuttals, expect the last one since I forgot about the phone thing, are just "nah ah"
And for the record, Civil War also sucked
The fact that Batman V Superman was attempting some ambitious things with the characters and posing questions about what we assume about their nature does not redeem it as a film. Why? Because nearly every opportunity to do something interesting with the characters is wasted. Case in point: Superman goes to a hearing to explain himself and rather than actually giving the audience a chance to hear what he had to say - which probably would have been really interesting - an explosion happens and the scene ends. Rather than spending more time with Superman and Batman, we spend time setting up a brainless monster for them to fight at the end that has no impact on the story at all. Wonder Women is lazily, haphazardly, and pointlessly shoehorned into the film for purely financial reasons and I defy anyone to argue otherwise. In the title fight, barely anything clever is utilized by the world's greatest detective and mostly they just punch each other and hit each other with sinks. There's nothing brainy, deep, or deconstructive about Batman swinging Superman around with a rope or stabbing a completely one dimensional monster that has no dialogue - isn't even really a character so much as a plot point - with glowing green crystal spear. This movie plays at having something deeper to say but it lacks any real substance, and it still contains all of the same silly shit Marvel movies have - glowing McGuffins, funny quips, endless explosion-filled fights - so I really don't know how anyone can pretend that it was just too smart for people. It was trying to do sixteen different things at once, and being 'smart' was relatively low on the list.
Heres your (You)
You left out the part where Eisenberg spends the movie trying to do terrible joker impression when he's supposed to be Lex Luthor.
BvS was not quite the disaster critics made it out to be but you capekino fags are seriously morons. If you think anything about BvS was deep you need to read a book, one that's not about dudes in costumes for a change.
Read the comics
Batman knows he won't kill or use his powers to do so and Batman uses this to his advantage
Fuck I hate you kids who haven't read a single comic
Reading supplemental material should be optional, movies should be conceived as stand-alone, not a collection of references for autists, no wonder not a single DC movie breaks 1B
>funny quips
Interjecting, but all the DCEU's attempts at humor have been either flat or embarrassing.
>Eisenberg spends the movie trying to do terrible joker impression when he's supposed to be Lex Luthor.
See now this is where you give away your fundamental lack of understanding and reveal your pleb because Eisenberg's Luthor was barely anything like the Joker. Eisenberg's Luthor was more or less true to Lex's insecurities and projections of vanity but dressed in a facade of quirky social ineptitude as opposed to Comic-Lex's facade of bold, charismatic entrepreneur/pioneer.
But strip away both facades and you end up with more or less the same character, an incredibly selfish and self destructive person who projects their own faults and insecurities onto a perceived Bogeyman just because the concept of altruism is completely alien to them.
None of that has anything to do with The Joker in terms of both mannerism or ideology. The Joker isn't insecure and he doesn't behave like a sperg.
It's funny that you're calling everyone else shallow when making a comparison between Eisenberg Luthor and the Joker is one of the most shallow, superficial and blatantly wrong comparisons.
Eisenberg should get an Oscar for his performance in BvS
fuck the haters
>Eisenberg's Luthor was barely anything like the Joker.
Well I'll say one thing, he could've at any point said the line "do I look like a man with a plan?"
>I figured out epicurus way back!
>citing epicurus at a drastically powered down superman
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No he couldn't have you moron! Ledger's Joker could say that despite being the guy in the movie with the most plans because he comes off like a chaotic nutjob to whomever he speaks to and it's only when you put all the pieces together that it becomes clear that it's all part of an elaborate scheme.
Eisenberg's Luthor is the most micromanaging sperg in the movie and every part of his dialogue betrays the fact that all he does is connive or fixate on every single particular little detail. He never could have or would have said that line.
>chaotic nutjob
I could not have described eisenberg's lex luthor better.
>He's too stupid to understand basic motivations
>In a Batman and Superman movie
Haha holy shit. Go back to disney mate. Be careful not to choke on your aspirations lol.
Calling eisenberg's lex a chaotic nutjob does not require a lack of understanding of his motivations. He just doesn't have clean, sane, or rational motivations/plans.
They're pretty fucking straightforward mate. He can't understand the concept of altruism and feels insecure in the presence of an all powerful being who uses his powers to do good in the world when Lex himself has spent his life gathering what he once perceived to be power and has generally been malicious.
In the presence of Superman Lex realises all of his corporate empire is nothing in the face of real power so he projects his own insecurities and failings on Superman believing him to be a fraud either in that he is not truly good or not truly powerful.
So his plan doubles as both a smear campaign to ruin Superman's public image as well as quietly cultivate a weapon against Superman either in the form of Batman and Kryptonite or in the form of Doomsday so that either he kills Superman as an idealistic image in the eyes of the public or he kills Superman the physical being.
He's unable to corrupt Superman but succeeds in killing him only to finally meet his personal idea of God in the form of Darkseid/Steppenwolf, the all-powerful but evil God. And this truly frightens him and shatters him leading to the breakdown at the end.
This is all in the film. It's incredibly clear and makes sense within the concept of Lex as a character. Not seeing this is a failing on you and not the film.
>He can't understand the concept of altruism
So what's this have to do with the well documented in-universe fact that snyder's superman is not all powerful? Thus quoting epicurus at it is just "chaotic nutjob" territory?
it's actually the film's fault
a shit movie was constantly be misunderstood because it's bad at explaining
But you don't benchpress with your arms.
Let's change all the character names and pretend like BvS isn't a comic book movie at all.
It's strictly it's own blockbuster movie not based off anything.
Instead of Bruce/Batman it's a generic rich guy, named Dave who dresses up in bullet proof armour at night and kills people for committing crimes and is known around his city as "The Dark Killer", and instead of Clark/Superman it's just an average joe named Ben that is secretly an alien that can fly and not get hurt.
Now that it's completely separated from comic books or any existing property, would people still defend this movie? Seriously, imagine, if you will for a moment, how much shittier Batman v Superman would be if the characters weren't from DC comics? It would have killed Henry Cavills career, Ben Affleck wouldn't of even agreed to do it in the first place.
>So what's this have to do with the well documented in-universe fact that snyder's superman is not all powerful
That's not how the public in the film perceives him and it's certainly not how people reacted to Man of Steel which is in part what that concept of the film is addressing.
KEY? NO, CINEMA
No it's all pretty straightforward, especially in the Ultimate Cut.
And even if it wasn't there are plenty of films that layer their themes and meaning within a lot of abstract imagery and only the most mentally bankrupt, Seth Rogen/Disney-watching/Broheims would call them shit for not being over enough.
And BvS isn't even one of them cause its symbolism and meaning is pretty straightfoward and in your face. Like sure not everyone notices every single allusion or parallel but only a complete idiot or someone deliberately not paying attention fails to understand the characters or the story.
>Now that it's completely separated from comic books or any existing property, would people still defend this movie? Seriously, imagine, if you will for a moment, how much shittier Batman v Superman would be if the characters weren't from DC comics?
you are completely retarded
>That's not how the public in the film perceives him
So snyder's lex luthor is of below average intelligence.
hey idiot, we defend the movie because it's good, not because we are #teamDC and we have to defend everything from dc a priori, like you fucking retarded Marvel fanatics do.... look at this piece of shit, the knee jerk defense\attack in favour of their preferite Corporation is so ingrained they give for granted everybody else is the same....
The accountant is a name-changed batman movie in the style of the DCEU.
>teenage social media profile tier quote useage
So deep.
>plenty of films [...] layer their themes and meaning within a lot of abstract imagery
The central contention here is BvS is not one such film. Nor is anything with the name "zack snyder" connected to it.
He's a genius, you fucking retard.
No wonder it JUSTed at the box office
>BvS
>good
lmao, pick one
It's extremely bloated. Horrendously edited. Poorly cast. Baldly acted. Lazily written. Painstakingly dull. Unbelievably boring. Unnecessarily broody. Terribly paced. And that is just the first hour, there is still two more hours left.
The shear number of pointless subplots are simply staggering. Plot holes? You mean mystery elements. The fact that someone read the script and decided it was worthy of spending over 250 million to bring it to the screen boggles my mind. This is what happens when you take five different scripts that have no sense of correlation. Did editing and streamlining the story not cross anyone's mind.
The production is big on making terrible decisions and this is clearly evident in the casting. Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luther is laughably bad giving his rejected Social Network performance as twitching Mark Zuckerberg. Gal Gadot is by far the biggest miscast. Most people complained when she cast due to her poor physicality and zero resemblance to Wonder Woman. Those points are fine, but the biggest drawback is that she's frankly not a good actress. She has the emotional range of a potato. Her big reveal in costume is complete with a 'cool' guitar rift like it's some Robert Rodriguez film. During action scene she is replaced by her cgi double which obviously looks bigger and muscular in comparison to Gal Gadot's actual physical appearance. I just couldn't help by have a good chuckle at that.
Yeah and the point he's getting at is that even though it isn't such a film retards like you are still too fucking stupid to understand a movie where Superman and Batman fight each other and blame the movie for your own stupidity.
I really doubt he has read half of these books
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What am I looking at here??
The only people who don't understand BvS are people who think it makes any sense. Because they applied zero thought to it.