Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie since the original trilogy

Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie since the original trilogy.

And this actress shits all over Daisy Ridley. Her crying scene was really good.

I'd say it's the best Star Wars ever made tbqh

i'd agree desu, if the original trilogy didn't have John Williams carrying it

>Her crying scene was really good.
No spoilers. I'm not going to go see it. Nobody talk about the plot until its on HBO

I cannot remember a single name of any of the characters. The plot was so mind-numbingly bland I honestly feel like they may as well have never had a script and the movie should have just been CGI space battles with the Death Star blowing up a planet here and there plus a few Darth Vader scenes as a bonus.

it's not a spoiler to tell you the main female character cries

it happens in like the first hour of the movie

Agree fully, not a waste of time or money.

I'd say you're bantha fodder tbqh

Anyone have a still when she puts the plans on her belt ? I almost audibly shouted out at that ass shot.

(you)

fuck off of this board if you don't want spoilers

I don't care about her character.

what about Darth Vader you enormous faggot

It has unironically become my favourite Star Wars movie

If the OT is top tier, prequels and TFA are trash, and RO is like a 6/10, then yeah.

>Her crying scene was really good
Because the average IQ is so low now I can't tell bait anymore.

It came out of fucking nothing. It's the end of the movie cry, but it's 2/5 of the way in. We have no investment in why she's crying.
That's not the actors fault of course, which is why it's a shit example. But she was just a blank slate, talking with her monotone voice, giving the :-| face every scene. She just looks like she doesn't want to be in the movie.

no no she lost her daddy :((((((( is sad :''''''(

she puts all mega-women to shame with her disarmingly adorable waifish features

Her buck tooth cleft palate bothered me at times. It's like someone pulled her upper lip up and to her left at times.. other times like they pushed it back to center and she had to keep her mouth still... maybe it was sitting in front of a 70+ft IMAX screen.

Didn't ruin it for me, enjoyed the movie, just one of those things that's hard to unsee

I thought it was pretty qt

>It came out of fucking nothing. It's the end of the movie cry, but it's 2/5 of the way in. We have no investment in why she's crying.

Did you not watch the opening fucking scene where her dad is kidnapped and mother is killed in front of her? I'd say that's enough "investment" for you to know why she's crying when she's seeing her dad talk to her for the first time in 15 years. And it was way more believable than anything Daisy Ridley pulled in TFA.

Her "blank slate" is just how you would expect someone with a tough upbringing to act. I thought her character was fine, you are just being autistic and probably parroting Plinkett's review

Goddam she's adorable.

Yaup

Just out of curiosity. Can you give me an example of what you view as an exciting plot?

>Dunkirk
>Hell or High Water
>Speed

It was extremely spotty and had poor character development, but everything from Scarif on is great. TFA was more consistent but didn't have anything as good as the last 30 minutes or so of R1.

I was kind of shocked that some of the early-mid scenes actually remained through the rewrites and re-edits. The entire sequence on the stormy planet where they run into Mads and his engineers really should have been cut. It was super disjointed and made little snese except to give them a melodramatic dad dying in his daughters arms moment that wasn't really earned.

All I want after watching this is a Republic Commando movie

Why is everybody dead?

This movie made me hate TFA even more.

This movie's big premise is that the Death Star is this massive threat, and it is, but TFA just takes a massive dump all over the death star with Starkiller base. Who cares about the Death Star when a bigger, more powerful version of it is built later?

Starkiller base is just such lazy writing, pottery be damned.

I felt indifferent about the story, I enjoyed the planet surface CGI and character/creature/plastic armor designs were cool. I wish a more sophisticated old school director would have done this, the fast paced thrill thrill ride approach doesn't work anymore, this was mediocre and Star Wars should end for good and be replaced with something more challenging to make like Dune.

> who cares about nuclear bombs when the hydrogen bomb exists

Military weapons escalate user.

>the fast paced thrill thrill ride approach doesn't work anymore

This. It doesn't fit Star Wars.

I figured TFA would go with a fast action type movie, so I really expected R1 to be slowed down, and finally get serious.

Instead we got another play-it-safe action movie that would probably be forgotten if not for the big-name IP and feminist drama on the sidelines.

>repeating "poor character development"
>only the last 30 mins were good
that's how I know you're dumb as dogshit

are you in the same universe? were you expecting a star wars adult drama?

She's not really a "blank slate", she's more like "im upset all the time". Like the face your girlfriend makes when you try to finess your dick into her ass and claim you got the wrong hole on accident.

Like the guy said: She literally looks as if she doesn't want to be in the movie. But I additionally believe she is a bad actress and I just hope all these R1 shills fuck off the board soon

TFA was better desu

I'm sorry if my opinions have triggered your sensitive sensibilities.

the scene where her and the captain die at the end, holding each other on the beach, is pure star-kino

>the best part of a female actor is when she cries

Women.

very true

What the fuck was RLM thinking

no one on /tv can dispute that Vader's combat scene in this movie is the best 60 seconds of vader footage in the entire series

Would have been better without female mc

>dude it turns out the death star was operational and destroyed several cities before IV LMAO

circlejerk unnecessary film that destroys the ingrigue and mystery of the original in favor of a CGI fest no one asked all leading up to a DUDE LIGHTSABERS LMAO scene, which is probably the only reason they even made it in the first place

why not just fucking release the vader scene on youtube as a "special edition" look into what happened between 3 and 4. they could film a million of these "random scenes" and put them up any time they want. random obi wan scene, random bail scene, etc. keeps the mystery of the films intact without insulting our intelligence

but no, that wouldn't print a billion dollars so of course they wouldn't do it

i'm mad guys

she was nice to look at though I was against it in TFA but ok with it in Rogue One

It's my favorite since Empire. Sure, there's ome slowdown during the first two acts and a few weird parts (tentacle rape, Jyn doing the old "reveals the master plan" trick to Krennic before she's even uploaded the plans), but holy shit the final act is so, so good.

you're forgetting the important stuff we learned from this story: that the weakness of the Death Star was sabotage, and the motivations of the engineer who designed it.

we also learned that the force intervenes in the aim of stormtroopers to protect major characters from being shot

>30 billion Space Shekels sabotage

not everything needs to be explained black and white by an exposition dump on film

it was a fine prequel, it doesn't "destroy the intrigue and mystery of the original", everyone who saw R1 left the theater hyped to go see episode 4 finish the story

I'd have high hopes for the next standalone star wars film, but they already casted Donald Glover as lando

The Force has always been on the side of the Hail Mary crowd.

It annoys me that RLM is trying to convince me it was a bad movie

>Donald Glover as lando
why

>everyone who saw R1 left the theater hyped to go see episode 4 finish the story

What? If anything I wanted to go watch ANH to wash the poor taste out of my mouth. R1 just made me nostalgic for the original material, since it had no original material itself.

meme actor who is quip-prone

Yea it's become my personal favorite star wars film. I know it's not a popular opinion but it's better than the OT tbqh.

What? You mean you aren't against the Le Disney Machine xDDD #KillTheMouseTakeHisHouse

>Donald Glover

You're overlooking that eyebrow bitch from Game of Thrones being in the film as well

>no original material

>we learn about 4 new planets, including what is likely the jedi homeworld, extremist rebel factions, the explanation of the death star's weakness (which, if left to the original trilogy's explanation, is nothing but shitty writing or deus ex machina)

In what way can a prequel avoid making anyone "nostalgic" for the movies it fucking leads up to you moron.

>yfw "BOOOOO GULLET"

HAHAHHAHAHHHAHHHAHAH

OH MY FUCKING GOD


EVERYONE LOOK AT THIS FUKCING REDDITOR HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

OH I DYING HAHAHAHA. PLEB AS FUCK SENPAI

seriously what the fuck was the point of this character? to try to raise Rebels ratings when they retcon him into it?

ITT: we act 13

It's a metaphor for Obama having to deal with the Trump's impact.

He's the anti darth Vader. Adds complexity to the rebellion

Just watched it, it was so fucking boring. I really didn't care about any of the characters or anything that was happening. Sure it was sad that Jinn was separated from her parents but she has fucking no personality. They hopped around planets and shit way too much, it felt like they were trying to show off the universe but the universe is just a bunch of CGI so who cares. I don't even know what else to say it was just boring, it had some okay action scenes. The part with Darth Vader in the hallway was really well done but unfortunately at that point I just didn't fucking care about the movie anymore and wanted it to end. I think someone probably really pushed for that scene to be in it because it feels out of place with the rest of it, in that it is actually tense and interesting.

Also why did the death star plans have to be a sabotage? Were people really wondering why the death star had a weakness? Isn't a design oversight enough explanation? In my opinion it is cooler as just a design oversight, the idea that it was a planned sabotage is too cheesy and don't you think someone would have mentioned that in the original movie? Seems like a very important detail and you would probably want to honor his memory by acknowledging the scientist intentionally made it flawed for them.

someone has to raise the main character after her parents are killed

someone who would have exposed her to combat training necessary for the character not to be some Mary Sue who is naturally good at everything

It would also have to be someone not in the Rebel alliance, otherwise they would have no need for the main character

Its as boring as everyone is saying

The Force Awakens will have the longer lasting impact over time and i wish these threads would just die

The Force Awakens was fucking shit.

The Jedi homeworld was destroyed, the extremist rebels were destroyed, and the idea that Garth designed the Death Star to be weak to impossible shots that could only be accomplished by force users is asinine and ruins the climax of ANH. Not to mention it's somehow less believable for Garth to intentionally design such a bizarre flaw than for the flaw to simply be an accident or oversight that was overlooked due to hubris.

yep force awakens was absolute garbage

rogue one makes the original trilogy more interesting, it gives more import to the threat of the death star, it expands on the background of those characters etc...

TFA is glurge, a hodge-podge of everything people wanted to see from the old films, but done terribly and in a way that pleases no one but little kids and old people. it's exactly what you would expect from a big disney movie focused more on selling merchandise than making good stories

i know these idiots act like that's shocking new info when anyone that has read a few good Star Wars stories wound have come to that as a possible conclusion

Wow, it would be cool if they put that childrearing shit in the movie so we could care when he dies and also get a sense of who Jyn is.

Instead he just acted like a badguy until the movie got tired of it and decided to move on to a different planet.

>I can't remember any of the characters names
Why is this posted in every thread as if it's a valid criticism? You must smoke a lot of weed or just be a bit slow if you can't at least remember "Jyn". It's one syllable and it's said about thirty times.

Did someone mention teeth?

>Not to mention it's somehow less believable for Garth to intentionally design such a bizarre flaw than for the flaw to simply be an accident or oversight that was overlooked due to hubris.

thats just your retarded opinion. it's actually more believable that a highly intelligent engineer, the kind of person who the empire had to kidnap and hold his family hostage in order to force him to work, was able to hide a flaw in the reactor

what's stupid is thinking an empire could spend all that time and resources and "overlook" something like that. it makes way more sense if the chief fucking engineer was actually a conscript with a grudge

and the jedi homeworld wasn't destroyed, just the city. obviously you weren't paying attention when you formed your worthless opinions

>rogue one makes the original trilogy more interesting

Except it doesn't. Name a single thing that happened in the movie that informs the struggle of Luke, Han, or Leia. Is there any information this movie presents that makes any event in the original trilogy more meaningful?

how many producers did this british hag have to fuck in order to land this role

seeing rogue one made me realize how much better we could have done with a female protagonist

Yeah. Best part. Full agree with you there.

It's not that I can't, it's that i can't be motivated to do something so very easy to do. to remember a shit characters name. noone ever claimed it was hard to do you harpy

Its pretty much the same as saying the characters had no arc or that nothing happened in the first hour. Hyperbole highlighting how stupid people who watch movies are.

>there are people who couldnt figure out juns character arc even though they said hope a 100 times in the movie.

You know how fucking stupid that argument is. You act like you're some huge star wars fan like me! You know critical it was to find out that the design wasn't a flaw it was meant to be there! Do you know how fucking important it was for them to explain how the Rebels even got the plans?!? The movie literally changes Star Wars history! No one knew that the weapon was used more than once. No one knew how grand moff Tarkin took control of the project. No one knew what happened to the genius that designed the Death Star! Also cmon the action in the movie wasn't worth shit to you?? Like really?? Seeing two star destroyers crashing into one another wasn't cool? Seeing Vader beat the living shit out of those rebels wasn't cool? I honestly can't even comprehend the stupidity of your argument.

This 2beeqh famalam

yeah, you did. you are the one who claimed it's hard to remember main character's names. I could name them all, because im not a dimwitted retard.

>in order to exploit the flaw you have to fly into a trench which is guarded by turrets and an entire battle station of ships and when you are flying in the trench you have to time your shot perfectly and with exact precision that even the computer system can't pull off
>someone who is intentionally sabotaging the Death Star would make it this fucking complicated and difficult to destroy

That is retarded user, why not make it so you just have to input a code or something to self destruct it? Luke and Han and them were easily able to sneak into the Death Star, they could have input the code in a terminal much more easily. There are a million other flaws to come up with but he chose the most convoluted one. It is WAY more believable that the Empire ignored it because it didn't seem feasible for them to pull off a trench run and blow up the Death Star.

i agree, but you can't say that around anyone without some "purist" jerking off over the original trilogy

let's be real, George Lucas was a hack, the original trilogy's are full of mistakes and plot holes that had to be filled

I mean the plot about this is dumb. Why figure out how to stop it instead of try to stop it? Why do you need the plans when all you have to do is shoot down an exhaust pipe in a trench? Why doesn't the dad just relay that?

It's because it's loosely connected and drawn out to make a lot of money with just superficial "oh I get that reference" story moments that fucking morons that have watched original trilogy movies once

You know how fucking stupid that argument is. You act like you're some huge star wars fan like me! You know critical it was to find out that the design wasn't a flaw it was meant to be there! Do you know how fucking important it was for them to explain how the Rebels even got the plans?!? The movie literally changes Star Wars history! No one knew that the weapon was used more than once. No one knew how grand moff Tarkin took control of the project. No one knew what happened to the genius that designed the Death Star! Also cmon the action in the movie wasn't worth shit to you?? Like really?? Seeing two star destroyers crashing into one another wasn't cool? Seeing Vader beat the living shit out of those rebels wasn't cool? I honestly can't even comprehend the stupidity of your argument.

The entire idea that Garth was the only person who could design the Death Star is ridiculous. Not only that, but the idea that the Empire would murder his wife and daughter and NOT check his work for sabotage is fucking retarded. We are to believe they are competent enough to catch incidental design flaws that would be impossible to be exploited under normal circumstances but incompetent enough to hire a rebel sympathizer AND trust his word with NO LEVERAGE? Straight incompetence on the Empire's part makes more sense.

The first third - outside of the great not-afghanistan battle, and the great visuals, set pieces and designs - was bad. Bad attempt at character building/exposition, bad pacing, uninteresting plot.
The 2nd third was pretty boring too but not nearly as much.
3rd third was pretty great.

Most visceral and entertaining battles in the series. Great sound design. Better music than the horribly boring shit that was in 7.
Well done implementation into A New Hope's story, although they went way overboard on so many Tarkin scenes.

Major problem was that the cast was indeed forgettable as fuck except Murderous Spaniard Hand Solo. I didn't really care about most of them in the end. Even with all the problems 7 had, and even with Rey being the biggest Mary Sue in the series barring the now defunct Kyle Katarn, I cared more about those characters.

But yeah. I'd still say overall its a better experience than 7. Both had plenty of "OH HEY GUYS REMEMBER THIS?!", but they did a pretty good job making it feel natural in Rogue One.

The characters are so boring that I don't even want to remember their names. I just know the blind Asian, his Asian friend, the beard guy Jen, and the robot. Oh and the pilot. Huh, the diversity actually helped me name the forgettable cast.

Added to my pasta collection

actually, retard, Rogue One makes it clear that the design flaw was the fact that the reactor would destroy the whole death star if you could get some kind of explosion to go off in it. Implying that that isn't normal for a reactor to do. It never said anything about shooting a proton torpedo into a specific exhaust port, that's just the plan the Rebels decided to do.

Alternatively, they could have snuck a bomb onto the death star and planted it in the reactor and that would have done the same job.

This must be pasta. I'm assuming you are just joking but just in case. You are falling for Disney's bullshit, you didn't need or even want to know any of that crap, you only act like it is important now because Rogue One answered those questions even though nobody asked them.

>We are to believe they are competent enough to catch incidental design flaws that would be impossible to be exploited under normal circumstances but incompetent enough to hire a rebel sympathizer AND trust his word with NO LEVERAGE?

maybe they overlooked that due to hubris? that was a good enough excuse for you before

Oh goody, the mental patients from Sup Forums are now pretending to like Rogue One.

>don't talk to me or my star wars ever again

Wow and guess what the genius Empire did when they built the second Death Star? The same damn thing, the reactor was the weakness again. This "answer" just makes things more contradictory, there was fucking no reason to explain that we could have assumed the reactor was highly reactive (seems fucking obvious when you say it like that) and that it would explode when shot. But no I guess we need to believe this doesn't happen because Rogue One told us we need to believe that. Keep sucking Disney's dick.

If they made the movie a little longer to flesh out the characters, it would be GOAT starwars kino.

That's complete horseshit. Do you mean to tell me they carried over the same design flaws in the second Death Star? Generally when you blow up a reactor generating enough energy to destroy planets, it doesn't just turn off. It fucking explodes.

See this exactly what I mean by people who watch movies are retarded. There is an entire scene where they explain that they intentionally made it seem like they needed him even though krennic coudlve finished off his project without him. They also have tarkin tell him his ego makes him miss the finer details and thus isnt fit for commanding the deathstar.

NOT ONLY THAT but fucking mads evem aays hr lied and tried to play the part of a man whos reaigned himself to his work to throw the empire off. This is all in the fucking movie you didnt watch or were too busy sucking dick to pay attention to.