All of my buddies secretly admit they regret doing it. My sister's husband is a miserable fucking prick after their two kids. My neighbor just had his third daughter and his drinking has become worse and worse ever since. My uncle who came to visit last Easter with his two kids whispered me to never get married and to especially never have kids.
It seems men really do not enjoy having kids like women do.
>not wanting kids
if you don't you're a beta, your job in this world is to have as many as possible. What you're seeing there is men hating their children because they hate their mother.
shitty fathers and/or married wrong woman. all the happiest people here are those with kids.
People don't want kids because they're rebellious little cunts, and we're discouraged from flogging them.
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I'd like to see factual representation of the comparable "happiness", user.
I'll just go to the Philippines or some shit and breed as many bastards as possible. Then at least I'll know that my genetic legacy goes on, without having to raise kids.
If sex wasn't good, almost nobody would have kids.
only with a rational woman. so, no.
I would like to have kids but I have scoliosis and I'm afraid I might pass my shitty genes to them
This idea intrigued me so much that I did a bit of research and it confirmed exactly what my own instinct told me: Men enjoy nutting inside of as many women as possible, but want nothing to do with the little pricks until they can walk. Women actually release more blood into their breasts when they hear their infants cry and their sex hormones change and they feel physically relaxed while nursing their babies. Their maternal psyche forms a mental bond with their children which lasts until they die, they feel a sense of completion by having as many children as they can.
Men don't have any of this shit. We wanna nut and then bounce and then nut again and then come back and help the kids learn how to hunt and fish and survive in the world after they're done screaming and shitting their pants every 5 seconds (According to the research I've done, mainly by the Sears family of pediatric doctors)
Yes, I want to implant my seed within a blonde hair blue eyed, submissive housewife. In order to produce an actualized image of my genetic disposition in order to carry on with respectable traditions
Its a seriously long term investment. My parents are ridiculously happy that they are starting to have grandkids now.
They are happy to give us early inheritance and help us start our families and they joke that its on the condition that we look after them in their old age and never put them in a home but we cant ever really do that to them when they have given us so much.
Having kids is badass if you raise them to be fag-hating God-fearing highly educated redpilled badasses who grow up to gain positions of power.
If you're a beta little bitch without strict moral principles, you shouldn't have kids. You'll be miserable because you aren't strong and smart enough to lead your wife and your kids, so they'll never truly respect you.
I don't actually have kids so I don't know first hand, but this is how it looks.
Use genetic counseling. There is no guess work involved in passing on genetic disease anymore.
They arnt submissive. They are nuts. Some of them just prefer cooking and child minding to taking out the rubbish and cleaning the bathroom.
As a chick I honestly can say I don't want any. Not now anyways.
>Not wanting heirs and someone to pass on your wisdom, legacy, and genes.
> be me
> oldfag (50) never bred any kids
> paid off mortgage, only have to work 3 days a week
> got many women lining up to service me
> got money for everything I want.
fuck kids tbqh. Getting pussywhipped into breeding kids is beta behaviour.
>kek
the best!
yeah i don't care about all these degenerate fuckers saying they hate their kids fuck them and their shitty families i want to have a bunch of kids
Women aren't naturally submissive.
You need to be a man who women will want to submit to. 98% of men are not strong enough these days, even conservative men have been partially brainwashed by feminism.
man you sound edgy
I feel like people regret having kids when they reach their 30s/40s because they feel like the kids are holding them back from having fun and doing what they want, but once they get older they appreciate having them.
With a good woman absolutely.
I probably will if I ever deccide to really have them.
I'm edgy as shit bruh
I can see you nose
Kinda this. If you're just going to let your children survive and be raised by Jews, don't have children. If you're rich and want to raise and educate them, have 10 kids.
those titties deserve 10 thumbs up
>this thread again
>yes goy, never have kids.
>they will make you miserable
Fuck off shill. Having kids is the best part of life. I've never loved something more in my life than my kids. Just thinking about them makes me happy. My wife and I pretty much decided to have another one soon.
The key here is having a good relationship with your wife first, then have kids. This is why (if your story is true) faggot friends hate their lives. Either that or they are shit parents and baby their kids to death.
b8
Men are unhappy after kids because the wife usually drives the financial decisions after kids are born and uses the kids as an excuse to demand he pay for the fucking universe.
They get with their other girlfriends who are stay at home and:
>baby swim class
>gymboree
>baby yoga
>kindermusik
All these "classes" for the baby are a just a thinly veiled rotating party for stay at home moms. The classes are usually $50 each visit and are always catered with really really nice food and sometimes even a fucking smoothie bar.
My buddy has 2 kids 1 and 2 years old and he spends $350/week on these "classes". They aren't happening that many times a week the whole year but if they were that's over $18,000/yr in recreational classes ALONE.
That's why men are fucking stressed out and fucking beat to death over the kids.
Sure. Maybe not right now. But definitely in the future when I've got better pay.
Shut the fuck up.
This.
user, if you're not going to have kids, just kill yourself right now.
>>baby swim class
The rest of that shit is retarded I agree, but having your children learn to swim and get used to water asap is incredibly valuable.
That is one endowed woman.
Nice try jude
Prime teen titties.
It's kinda scary at first, but after a few years you'll be happy you did. Sure raising kids is expensive, but they add more emotional fulfillment to your life than wasting all that money on a bunch of stuff.
How the hell are we supposed to insure the survival of our race if shitskins are outbreeding us 3 to 1?
> as many as possible
Indian detected.
You and only you are one who matter. After your death no one cares abt sorry sperm
I do want kids, after seeing my seeing my cousin have her twins after an earlier miscarriage, they're amazing. Obviously it is challenging at times, but being a good father and a rolemodel to your kids is something I reckon is one of the best kids you could be.
That said though, for now I don't want kids. I'm nineteen so I don't think I'd make a good father yet.
Good luck with that. The most enjoyment I see men get from their kids is as the lowest-risk diversion from their miserable marriage.
*ensure
Nah I'd be a useless father, never even held hands with a woman so my genetic line is over famalam, too useless to even "orbit" women kek
At a year old? They have a fucking swimming pool in the neighborhood. She could take the baby there and work with her.
But no, she pays $50/class to go to the little fins baby swim school because that is where there is someone paid to keep another eye on their baby while they half pay attention and chit chat. Their HOA pays for a swim team coach that will with the help of volunteers teach their kid to swim if they are 4 or older.
Not to mention the little fins swim school has these "levels" and you have to FUCKING PAY to take the exam to graduate your kid. If they fail you have to pay the $50 visit AND the $25 test fee again. Hahaha
How old are you?
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yeah having kids is alpha as fuck
fucking sheeple clones suffering from low self-esteem.
i think i would enjoy having kids and would be a good father functionally. unfortunately, i am ugly and therefore have inferior genetics and would never subject another being to the kind of life i've had due to my genetic inferiority. therefore, it is for the best that i don't reproduce.
I'm so jealous of a 50 year old who still browses Sup Forums
I've got 2 kids. I never wanted one.
But my gf at the time lied about having a IUD.
So. Bam. Kid. Than one night she pretty much raped me when I was drunk. Bam. Kid.
Now she wants a third.
I have no will to live anymore.
I've gained 50lbs in a year, because I've just given up.
I wish I could tell 16 year old me to not fuck crazy.
Not at a year old, no. That's retarded. It's reasonable at around three years old for them to start swimming lessons.
The idea of raising a child and passing it on all your knowledge so that you leave behind something better than the chance you were given as a child is a nice idea.
However I'm a MGTOW in reality, for many different reasons but more predominantly because the government has interfered with the family unit and made it dangerous and toxic towards men.
1) No fault divorce means women can dump you for any reason they like, or no reason at all.
2) The welfare state provisions disproportionally for women disproportionally at the expense of men and mean women do not need to rely on men directly they can rob them through the force of the state.
3) Family courts and in fact all courts are bias towards mothers as primary care givers and award them custody most of the time meaning they can literally take your child away from you.
4) Overwhelming people in general including the media and law enforcement believe women are a protected class at the expense of men, so false accusations of domestic abuse, sexual assault and so on, these are all risks to men.
5) The fucked market and high taxes we pay today to put other peoples children through school means its harder financially to live comfortably with a large family.
How old are you? 23? Start working out fat fuck and stop fapping or looking at porn for 90 days. It'll change your life forever.
27, going on 28. My buddies were mostly in the same class as me, I think only a few were in the grade above or below me, so they're all either the same age or 1 or 2 years older/younger. My sister and her husband are in their thirties, my neighbor's probably in his late 30s, I don't know him that well, we just chat from time to time and he's always drunk off his ass talking about how miserable his life is with his wife and kids, my uncle's probably up in his mid fifties by now.
Like I said, based on the research I did, mentioned here, , suggests that women physically, mentally, and emotionally change after they have children because that is what they're biologically meant to do, while men are not. Men come into play at around 4 or 5 years after the kids have been born, when they can walk, so they can teach them how to survive on their own and then leave to go impregnate more women.
topfucking kek
I would like kids. I'd like to have a wife and children to come home to. It's just that modern women and children are so abrasive that I don't think it'll happen.
I would absolutely not want daughters either--only sons.
> It seems men really do not enjoy having kids like women do.
There are many things we don't enjoy but have to do anyway.
You are a vehicle for your genes, kids are the only legacy you'll have in this world. Everything else is futile, nobody will remember your shitposting and how good of a team player you were at your job.
If you don't have them while you can, you'll die a sorry, a lonely old cunt.
Kids are the Trap Bro women get kids they have financial stability for 18+ years
kek being American sucks. All of that and more is around 50 euros for 6 months at the local club location. I made sure no refugees use this service before I allowed my wife to take our kids there.
>God-fearing
>redpilled
This fuckin' nigger.
What does the "stop looking at porn" meme even accomplish? It wouldn't make me start talking to women or asking them out. It would just make me frustrated.
I have kids and never regretted it not once. The people complaining in this thread are just selfish.
your friends and uncle are just lazy shitty faggots, and they passed it on to their kids, so they hate them.
That's my whole point man. Did you read anything I even wrote before you decided to say, "well awwwkshully(lisp) teaching them to swim is good"?
The fucking neighborhood has a pool and a swim team. She's taking a class to eat catered meals with girlfriends and using the kid as an excuse. It's putting my friend in to debt and when he tries to lay down the law she goes insane because if she leave a class her girlfriends will think they are having financial problems aka her husband can't earn. So she went ahead and charged 3 months of classes on the card after he said not to and claimed she thought it was just for a month.
No one doubts swimming is an important skill. Stop being a fucking aspie and desperately picking an argument on the interwebs.
world class tits
It all leads back to the need to fix people.
The King James Bible is the ultimate redpill. What you see in mainstream Christian culture is a lie. They're a bunch of effeminate faggot sissies.
Independent Fundemental Baptist is where it's at
This desu.
Holy shit faggot, you need to calm down. Why are you so mad?
Indeed
Indeed
Good dream but a pipe dream
Your buddy is an idiot, and apparently incapable of having a say in his own relationship.
Ive seen this quite a bit to be honest familia
For me kids are a trade, like anything in life. Sure I lose out on some things that I absolutely miss about being single, but overall its worth it. Theres something to being able to show my kids the same wonder I found in the world. Control their intakes of things, food, media, arts, and get them into things like the boyscouts (always attend to avoid the rape) tball, baseball, soccer. These things will help with appreciation.
Have children and raise them, dont let the state or anyone else do it.
Naw not mad I just got fired up thinking about the insanity of the whole thing he's going through. Feel really bad for him. Best friend for 16 years.
>What you're seeing there is men hating their children because they hate their mother.
THIS
>fag hating badasses
Kill yourself hick
Fathers are unhappy because they fall for the meme that parenthood is just the next stage of life. Having kids has to be something you know you want to do otherwise you will be doing a disservice to your future children. "muh genes" and "muh not being a beta cuck" aren't legitimate reasons. You should also realize and prepare for the scientific fact that the romantic bond between you and your wife will diminish after having children.
>god fearing
>highly educated
>badasses
pick 1
Personally I'm really struggling to understand men who don't want kids.
What could be better than seeing your own son taking his first steps or playing football (not that effin Murican version. Hell, even changing diapers at 2am was fucking awesome when my son was just laughing at me.
Nothing can prevail over the feeling when your own kid grows up. You guys should grow up also and stop that
>hurr durr I can't play video games 24/7 if i get a kid
Children are you responsibility, if you find a good wife and raise them right I believe it's a very rewarding thing to have. If you raise them without a care a buy them happiness they'll turn out well probably. It's all about being a good father.
I'm aware a lot of women are looking for independence and generally think they're teenagers forever, but find a responsible woman who truly loves you. Potentially, this could mean looking into women of different cultures where family values are still maintained. Don't set too high of a standard.
You can have children and not regret it when you
a) find a super traditonal, racist, rightwing woman
b) move to the most godforsaken place in the countryside and homeschool them
c) bonus - stark living self-sufficient to a high degree
Fuck the modern world. It is corrupting children. isolate them from it until you installed the right mindset in them.
I would shag the fuck out of OP pic related.
Those tits are magnificent.
On to the subject matter at hand:
I have 4 children and 2 grand-children.
I got a vasectomy after child #4. So I can fuck bareback all day and night without the constant nagging worry of knocking up another stupid slag.
I was accused once of getting some 30-something crazy cunt pregnant in 2012, but my zero sperm count blew her the fuck out in a court of law.
Needless to say she gave me no children. But she did give me gonorrhea.
So mother and child from age 0-3 or 4 just magically survive without any protection or help from the male until the kids can walk? Wtf that makes no sense
It helps actually.Btw give it a try,you have not too much to lose.
Actually it would. You'll be less anxious, and plus you must get over your fear of being rejected. People get rejected all the time, its not the end of the world.
Just try it. 90 days. I promise you, it'll change your energy levels, drive, and get rid of your social akwardness.
It's complete bullshit. I'm a NEET, and I can easily go a week or more without even thinking about jackin it. Never once has it affected my mood.
man i really dont think you know how lucky you are to not only have parents still together, but also parents who are able to help you get off your feet.
My mom just got fired because she fell on her face drunk at work because shes an alcoholic.
Her mother and father beat her and im pretty sure she has major psycological issues, along with her cousin hanging himself when he was a teen. on top of all of this she didnt pay taxes properly and despite the government first sending her around 30k, she owees them back over 40k and also has around 10k in credit card debts. Depression is fucked up, if you have kids and you had a good start you better give them everything you fucking wop.
yeah because feminism made sure marriage is as miserable as possible. If men were allowed to dominate like they were supposed to they'd enjoy their life and marriage much more
How fucking old are you man?
You're a grandparent yet sound like a 17-year old.
roastie detected
kill yourself fag enabler.
Go march in a pride parade and suck a dick.
Please more of her, preferably pregnant and her nipples attached to a milking machine while she is fucked in her ass.
SCHNELL SCHNELL
You don't understand, those years are meant for making more children with more women, yes, the man is around for everything required for maintaining the brood, such as hunting, fishing, tool-making, ect, but as far as raising the children and dealing with them? No. The women do that, which explains why their entire hormonal and neurochemical state changes after birthing children.
Think of it like how it used to be 50 years ago: Man went out and worked, woman stayed home and dealt with the kids.
This. Yes I would love to be carefree and fuck hot sluts whenever I can, but ultimately I want to raise children who look like me and grow old with a woman who loves and cares for me.
some people want more from life than just farming the next generation of fuck ups/kikes/fags/etc.
>You're a grandparent yet sound like a 17-year old.
And you're 12 and what is this.
Go suck another AIDS-infested pustulating cock.
Summer is over there:
We'll see who's laughing when you're 50 faggot
MUH WHITE RACE U FUCKING DEGENERATE
And how does having kids prevent you from doing that?
Go play some video games, manchild
He's an underaged pretending to be a gwown-up.
I wish to have the cute, affectionate, smart but dependent daughter, but I don't want to deal with vile old 3D whores. Why does life have to be so complicated?
i have children and im loving it. ask me anything.