Why won't South Americans just unite into one big country?

I mean, except for Brazil and that tiny piece of Frog-land, everyone speaks Spanish, shares the same culture and looks approximately the same shade of sweet caramel milk brown.

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we dont speak the same language or have the same culture

>shares the same culture
what the fuck this is something I would expect from an amerifat

>everyone speaks Spanish
Indigenous languages, Spanish, French, Portuguese, Dutch, English

Why doesn't Brazil just take it all, they have more population than all the others combined

subhuman continent
still better than europe

Venezuela and Bolivia want to be like Cuba.
Colombia and Paraguay hate their neighbors
Argentina is eccentric.
Guianas and Suriname are technically europian.
Chile is not a failure.

we unironically were trying to do that until Dilma was impeached by the CIA
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations

Because we don't need more poor people.

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because brazilian army is shit, they wouldn't even be able to fight three of us

It's not true. But the relation of your government with narcotrafic turn things a little complicated

Thats why op said except for brazil and some francophone countries.

because the amerifags would get so pissed they would kill us, also, the leaders of this "country" would probably be commies so no.

Actually it was until Dilma stepped into office. Her foreign policy was non-existent.

>shares the same culture
American-tier thread

>implying I have anything in common (other than language) with any other country besides Argentina

it's true, brazilian army is in a shit shape and is not powerful enough for a country so big, i would say that Argentina + us could take you down

Well you clearly do. You guys were colonized by the Spanish, they inherited a great deal of their mindset and architecture to you, not to mention their entire language. That completely colors the base of your culture. Anything on it - such as indigenous culture is just a layer of thin shade.
Like, let's say that Spanish culture is the color is blue. And all Latin American countries are blue. But it doesn't mean they're all have to be the same shade, wtf. Some are a bit lighter, some are dark blue, some a bit greenish, but still blue.
gosh. stop being so willfully dense, so you can pretend to be outraged by nothing.

you don't know shit m8 mass migrations of different european groups to different countries, different amounts of natives or blacks making up the population of lots of countries, different histories forging countries with different mindsets, different amounts of power owned by the church in different countries through time. We're not even remotely similar to say, Colombia, Bolivia or Chile

meh don't you get it my friend LatAm can't be unified because that would forever undermine the US influence on them, hence why there is a need to spread misinformation and forever create conflict and poverty in the region. And you can see that even here in Sup Forums, I don't doubt there are CIA paid-shills with LatAm proxies here spreading this kind of bullshit 24/7, also the whole media and infrastructure is basically puppeted by the US too, we are basically CIA playground

I've wondered the same and made some threads about it too.

Apparently they're completely different in culture. I remain suspicious though.

They would probably be Socialists and implement Esperanto as the language of the union.
No thanks.

nah we are pretty much the same, everyone is catholic and has a southern euro culture underlying it. The only reason we can't unify is due to the US and the current status quo undermining it

you're

>Guianas and Suriname are technically europian.
Uh no they're techinically Caribbean.

>if I oversimplify everything we're pretty much the same, see?

This is 100% true

no, you literally listed the only things we have similar

>we
Not Brazil, but everybody else yeah

>different european groups to different countries, different amounts of natives or blacks
This is just the regular, healthy amount of differences any given normal country has.

SA is pretty diverse even though they speak the same language. Same with the /mena/.

It's not that simple, OP.

Portugal and Spain are basically the same thing too.

Argentine customs are much more influenced by Amerindian cultures and traditions than say Colombia or Chile.
An union isn't possible.

Though we are quite similar to Peru and Bolivia.

As a CHI whose seen most of south america, you guys are like Peru but with better food and better transportation in my opinion.

name two countries that have different ethnic demographies, (slightly) different history, different amount of secularism, different cultural influences and that still have 'the same culture'

Peru has god tier food though.

They're about as diverse as any normal country with regular variations inside it

He's talking about Spanish speaking SA, dummy. Of course Brazil isn't the same as the rest.

Brazil truly only shows how retarded Spanish speakers truly are. Take any other former colony and the country remains together, take a Spanish speaking former colony and it splits up into tiny pieces only to have retarded virgins spouting online how they are too different between each other. Guess what, look at the Portuguese speaking side and despite the differences between, say, North and South Brazil and the whole thing is still together.

memes

can't tell if memes or honestly clueless

Germany and Russia.
I can name 5 more.

>(slightly) different history
By the way, for fucks sake's man that's stretching so hard. You can't seriously believe the history of Colombia and Venezuela is as different as that of France and Germany.

>hate their neighbors
for no reason, i presume

Perdoname pero a mi no me a venir un yorugua a enseñarme de mi pais. And a tomar la chechona.

>Guess what, look at the Portuguese speaking side and despite the differences between, say, North and South Brazil and the whole thing is still together.
is that supposed to be good?

Ah yes. When in doubt concerning something you don't like about South America, blame the US.

which are pretty much the whole basis to every culture in Latin America, it's from a base simple idea which you construct differences and other cultural aspects. Hence why every country is so similar despite having so many differences. Because deep in the core we are the same. Which Unions like the EU doesn't have this, because they are trying to aggregate cultures with fundamental differences, like protestant, catholic and orthodox cultures which clash in the differences

It's not about being good or bad. It's about you acting as if you're different when you're clearly all the same.
It's fine you're split apart. It's just dumb to read people saying as if Argentina and Uruguay are so different when they're 100% the same in every single way.

Oh sure m8, same culture...

m.youtube.com/watch?v=vOuXdCUp5J8

ah yes, it's not like there is whole agenda leaked by snowden to literally undermine every aspect of the pink tide prosperity post the year 2000 which was led by Brazil, and bring us back under US sphere of influence. There is no doubt my friend, just facts

There are villages in Germany with different dancing in other German villages too. I'm not sure where you're going with this.

to be honest having a huge country isn't good even for statistics
this type of banter is 70 years old, when population numbers mattered because "muh army"

i suppose you're not posting argentinian culture right? you should clarify it to the hunitedstatian with an obvious proxy

It's not a good thing though. We're "poor" and dumb, so a big country is useless. It hurts to have these proportions and being a big pile of shit at the same time.

A "divided" Brazil would help us with the corruption scandals and with administration overall, and I don't really care if the cultures are different or not, honestly I don't believe we're that different. Maybe more autonomous states, like in the US.

Seriously, being part of a federation hurts. It hurts like hell, it feels like you're trapped and there's nowhere to go or to make some progress. Federations are o.k. if you're powerful and wealthy though.

who is saying argentina and uruguay are different dumbo, but do you really think that let's say Nicaragua and Paraguay are remotely close? (besides the obvious basic things like the language or the religion)

Yes let's undermine the one single thing that makes us strong and become all puppets of a larger country, what could possibly go wrong

>that makes us strong
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
cala a boca burro

>Ah yes. When in doubt concerning something you don't like about South America, blame the US.
The U.S. is responsible for a great deal of atrocities.
Crafty merchant pls go. Don't you have a planet to ruin, for future generations?

>but do you really think that let's say Nicaragua and Paraguay are remotely close?
yes, europeans and burgers unironically believe we are arr same

Germany and Russian culture aren't the same
if you meant culture within those countries, then northwestern german culture isn't the same as southeastern. Same with Russia
South america could be a federation, but my point is that we're do not have the same culture

>tee-hee I'll just pick 2 countries that were historically united
Take Bolivia and Uruguay. Two completely different territories during precolumbian history, two completely different kind of colonies and now two completely kinds of countries.

>La cultura Argentina es muy similar a la Boliviana
Jujuy no es toda argentina coya gay

2bh that could have been filmed in any part of Argentina

Indians arr rook same

>(besides the obvious basic things like the language or the religion)
Those are the things that make a country.
All places have differences. I'm assuming you think Madrid and Barcelona, or Moscow and St. Petersburg are 100% the same. They're not. But they're the same to someone from the outside. That's literally how you define a country btw, it's from the outside. Germans are different from everyone else around them, despite them having huge differences inside their own country. Paraguay and Nicaragua are pretty much the same thing too, like Germany.

>in any part of Argentina
i clearly see mountains in the background, so Buenos Aires it is not

Most of the EU are Germany's puppets. They're doing way better than us.

I don't wanna be "strong", I just want to fucking live my life in peace.

That's not the point I'm making. Whether being together or split apart is good or bad isn't really where I'm going for. Tbqh, I'm perfectly fine with Spanish speaking America being split up the way it is.
It's just silly to think they're so different to justify their nationalities. They're about as different as Brazil is. Their nationalities only exist because of greedy generals and politicians and that's about it.

Because the Andes and the Amazon isolate us.

MY VERDICT:
Argentina remains independent and so does Brazil. Uruguay is split between these two.
Paraguay remains independent.
Manlet states next Brazil (Suriname and whatever), no idea what to do with those.
Chile, Peru, Colombia etc will combine into one country.
Middle American countries are absorbed by Mexico.

Thoughts?

m8, the only peace you can get in life is death, either you struggle or accept defeat, in your case you have accepted defeat and is on dispair due to it

I thought you asked me for two countries with the same amount of variation within them as SA. Russia and Germany are fine examples of this.
If you want countries split apart that have the same culture, it happens literally nowhere else on Earth except SA, just to show how retarded you guys are.

Actually now that I think of it, I don't think Brazil should have any of Uruguay since they don't share a language.

>They're doing way better than us.
Ah yes, losing their national rich cultures to globalist market-oriented cultures, which facing unemployment and terrorism, great way of doing better

>Uruguay is split between these two
wut? we're not even neighboring countries
here, i made a better division and put it names unrelated to politics but related to food

>I'm Portuguese and let me tell you about how similar you are to El Salvador
guy probably think that we're all spaniards-lite

Naci y creci en Belgrano, barrio norte, Capital Federal.

La cultura y demografia argentina, boliviana y peruana son sustancialmente similares y siguen un mismo patron te guste o no.

Bajale a los memes de Sup Forums y Sup Forums, botija boludo.

>I'm assuming you think Madrid and Barcelona, or Moscow and St. Petersburg are 100% the same
no, i don't, your whole argument is assuming that everyone is ignorant about everything outside their borders, and even if that's remotely true, it doesn't mea anything

why the fuck would we unite with chile and peru, are you retarded?

ps: white belongs to France. i always forget to add that to the map

>during precolumbian history
That's great, son. All European countries were completely different, or not, before the Romans too. You're not making much sense here.
>two completely different kind of colonies
HAHAHAHAH.
>two completely kinds of countries
Yeah, you should travel more.

Somebody had better give me an explanation, immediately

Nono, Paraguay will remain independent but Uruguay is combined with Argentina.

You do know how much differences Brazil has inside it, right?

>Giving Acre back.

>why the fuck would we unite with chile and peru

how about you give me a better solution then, smartass?

yeah but as autonomous community, like the catalans in Spain
your cunt shouldn't even exist

incans or whatever believed that holding grudges destroy the community so once or twice a year they have festivities in which the people (in pairs) can beat the shit out of each other and then forgive each other
then it gathered international attention so they turned it into a regular show:
youtube.com/watch?v=ubK7VSLjuvk

Every country has huge regional differences. That you only give half a fuck about Brazil because they are your colony is a different story.

>poor
>violent
>brown

What am I missing

well maybe uniting with the only fucking countries that we are related to and that we used to be a part of the same country?

>assuming that everyone is ignorant about everything outside their borders
Of course people aren't ignorant of things outside their borders, dummy. That's not to say when you go to a different country you see actual differences to their own.
I have yet to meet a Latino who doesn't talk about going to some other Latino country as if I were describing my trip from Lisbon to Porto.
You have literally no idea what an actual foreign country is. The difference between the USA and Mexico, that's an actual country difference. The difference from Bolivia to Panama is to small for anyone else to notice. Sorry this ticks your bubble, it's simply the truth.

>E-euros were different too
not even a point

>lol
what are Colonias de Poblamiento and Colonias de población.

>you should travel more
not even a point

we could be a huge federation like I've said, my point is that we have cultural differences that's all

akchually you're not missing it

>that's an amerifat """"idea""""" of culture
no wonder you big-asses think you've got culture

*Colonias de Poblamiento and Colonias de Explotación
funny mistake in this context

There's a point where such differences, such as language, are so big they actually constitute a different nation.
I see none of that in the Spanish speaking Americas. You're all the same nation, with the expected variation any nation has.
And I'm not even the only one saying this. I'm just using Brazil as an argument because I know Brazil well.
Sorry this hurts your feeling or whatever. It's the simple truth.

>I have yet to meet a Latino who doesn't talk about going to some other Latino country as if I were describing my trip from Lisbon to Porto
you never asked me, why would i say it then

Because two wrongs don't make a right, everyone needs to fix their shit before thinking of joining together. Also we are slowly colonizing every country and subverting them to the glorious arepa.

what country is that? I'm sure we can make an arrangement that suits all and makes South America simpler.

Brazil and Argentina should remain intact, except Uruguay being combined with Argentina, that we can all agree on. Paraguay will remain independent as well, since they actually have a non-colonial language.

>my point is that we have cultural differences that's all
Ok, good for you. Hard to justify a whole nationality with that, whatever.
>Colonias de Poblamiento and Colonias de población
Different ways for Spaniards to do their thing. You're literally talking about a time when you were all the same country, I fail to see an argument here.

I didn't ask either. You're not gonna say anything I haven't heard yet.

how the fuck can you even speak about us when you don't even know about La Gran Colombia

gtfo Bolivar, i will never join you

You don't have to "unite" per se, but to join together into alliances without borders, like the European Union.

There's no meaning in struggling if it's not for a cause. Here I struggle "for free", just because.

You fucking faggot even if they become a new Saudi Arabia I'd move there in a heart-beat.

>Paraguay will remain independent as well, since they actually have a non-colonial language.
Dude everyone in SA speaks Guarani. It actually has more speakers in Brazil than Paraguay. And Brazil even has its own unique shape of Tupi called Língua Geral.

wtf I thought u were Bolivia. Allright then, Gran Colombia will become a thing AND Peru, Chile and Bolivia combine.