Zero (0) suspensions for cheating

Zero (0) suspensions for cheating

ZERO (0) SUPER BOWL L0SSES

no suspensions, still did it

literally who is that grandpa

What did Montana do?

5 (7) > 4 (4)

4-0

>Jerry "Stickum" Rice babby

So goat they named a state after him

>won 2 super bowls before jerry rice was drafted
Cry harder

Confirmed system babby
Look at what Steve Young did with that team afterwards.

>young has 1 super bowl
>montana has 4
What did he mean by this?

How many titles does Matt Cassel have?

Steve Young was 10x the quarterback matt cassel was

Also young started for 7 seasons while Cassel started for only 1 season, not comparable

If we are going by super bowl success Montana is the GOAT. If we are going from an individual passer critique it is Rodgers without a doubt. Brady is only the GOAT to E!SPN, turdworlders and the inbred states of New England.

>Brady will never not be suspended for cheating
>Brady will never be undefeated in the super bowl
>Brady will never win four (4) super bowls in a row
How can Brady even compete with the GOAT

GAYS NOT WELCOME

Lmao I love how Peyton fags have completely moved on to comparing Tom to joe. What will the assblasted retards do when he wins another one? Compare him to Jordan?

Get fucked

5 (FIVE) > 4 (four)

>His career ended at 5 superbowls
lmao laughing at you

>40 years old
>Just reached the peak of his playing career
How can Joe ever be compared

>that shitposting leaf is back

>undefeated in super bowls
How embarrassing it must be to choke in the super bowl twice

While that was indeed cheating, nobody gave a shit because he came out about it after the league had already accepted gloves that are stickumx5000

1.000 > 0.714

Irrelevant. Stay eternally ass hurt Peyton faggot

5 > 4 2bh

t. butthurt patriotscuck
It's okay, just accept who the GOAT QB is and all that anger will be released

I've already accepted who the true GOAT is

Brady played in a more pass friendly league, he would get killed in the era Montana played in and that's a FACT

Hate to burst your bubble but system babbys and cheaters can't be GOATs

Montana had harder competition to reach the Super Bowl
(Joe Gibbs Redskins, Parcells Giants, etc)

Brady still hasn't even dominated in a Super Bowl

Montana is #1
Brady is #2

>Hate to burst your bubble but system babbys and cheaters can't be GOATs

You do realize Jerry Rice admitted to cheating, right?

>lost two super bowls to autism manning
>literally let a nigger who show himself in the leg and is out of the league rob him of immortality

Shit is just embarrassing any way you look at it. Theres a list 100 points long on why Brady isnt the GOAT.

This. Only new england cucks believe otherwise

Did montana cheat though? Also, considering how receiver's today use gloves (which are pretty close to stickum) it really doesn't matter

>tfw the true goat steve young is dq'd too
fuckin rice

all hail our 0-4 goat overlord jim kelly

Drew "two seasons away from breaking passing yds and TDs records" Brees > the rest

>Theres a list 100 points long on why Brady isnt the GOAT.

Playoffs (career)
Most games played: 34
Most games started by a quarterback: 34
Most games won by a starting quarterback: 25
Most consecutive wins, playoffs, by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003–2005)
Most consecutive wins to start a career, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 10 (2001, 2003–2005)
Most career home wins, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 15 (2001–2016)
Most consecutive home wins, post-season, by a starting quarterback: 8 (2001–2007), tied with Jim Kelly
Most touchdown passes: 63
Most passing yards: 9,094
Most passes completed: 831
Most passes attempted: 1,325
Most division titles won by a starting quarterback: 14
Most NFL conference championship appearances by a starting quarterback: 11
Most NFL conference championship wins by a starting quarterback: 7
Most career 300+ passing yard games, post-season: 12

Super Bowl (career)
Most touchdown passes: 15
Most passing yards: 2,071
Most passes completed: 207
Most passes attempted: 309
Most wins as starting QB: 5
Most passes completed in first half of a single Super Bowl: 20 (XLIX)
Most passes completed in a single Super Bowl: 43 (LI)
Most passes attempted in a single Super Bowl: 62 (LI)
Most passing yards in a single Super Bowl: 466 (LI)
Most Super Bowl appearances: 7

Passing yards is a stupid statistic. Who cares how far you throw if you don't end up with a TD?

Trent Dilfer is undefeated in Super Bowls too.

Face it, at this point, Montana is Bradshaw/Aikman tier. Brady surpassed him long before he even got his 4th.

>advanced stats
>5>4

He's also close to break the TDs record.
Plus he has the most YPG and completion %

>more passer friendly league

If you think aikman and bradshaw are anywhere near montana's level you're retarded

4-0 > 5-2

>4-0 > 5-2

That's mathematically wrong.

Easy to do in a dome

>Argentinian logic

Your national superstars are the following losers:
Gabriella Sabatini
Leonard Messi
Diego Methodonna

Literally a bunch of cheaters/losers.

>4-0 > 5-2
That's not how math works, you imbred cowfucker

Losing 49-3 in the divisional round is the super bowl loss he otherwise would have had.

>Perfect score vs imperfect

>11 TD's, 0 INT, 1142 passing yards and a 127.8 passer rating in the super bowl

Was it even a debate of who the GOAT QB is?

Yeah to one of the GOAT defense that went on to win the Super Bowl
Brady never had to deal with that.
Brady also never won in dominating fashion

>Joe Montana will become an obscure name within your lifetime

Brady beat the Seahawks though, a team that the year before, destroyed Manning's record setting offense.

Needed a lucky INT

Fewer and fewer people remember Montana because TOM BRADY overshadowed him years ago

Yeah the guy with more rings

Because football is a game of field position.

Also, by that logic, if a team drives 90 yards down the field passing, then have your RB punch it in from the 1 yard line, none of what the QB did mattered.

*Hint; it's why Blount was 30th in yards per attempt last season (3.9), but 1st in Touchdowns (18)

>He thinks brady and belichick were the NFL's greatest dynasty

Patriots offense scored 14 in the 4th. If they lost it would have been on the defense.

Tbh if you have a QB that can't score in the redzone, he's shit

>Brady beat them
No. Patriots D beat them
Something people rarely bring up is Patriots strong defense for years
(Belichick ran the D that beat the 49ers)
Thanks for agreeing with me. If a pass for 5 yards leads to a TD that's better than 300 yard passing day with no TD

If you think the Patriots offense didn't outperform the defense in SB 49 you're a retard.

*intentionally loses 49-3 in the divisional round to preserve undefeated super bowl record*

heh jokes on u brady

Brady WISHES he could be on montana's level without cheating

Brady can do both, but he's in the redzone so often that they need to switch things up so they don't become predictable.

It's why Peyton Manning usually had more TDs than Brady, because Peyton was always padding his stats (and throwing more picks), passing on the goal line rather than letting his RB punch it in for the easy score.

Patriots went to the SB in 2012 with the 31st ranked defense though.

Brady haters this SEETHING.

Patriots D was #1 last year

The 49ers would have obliterated the Broncos that year

>last year
>SB 49

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They were 9th

Who won on an interception? >Ignoring how good the Pats D is

Now you're just pulling shit out of your ass. Their defense was 31st in total YPG. YPG is the metric used to rank defenses.

>won on a pick after letting them storm down the field in the final moments of the game

Like I said, the offense brought the team back and scored 14 points in the 4th. All the defense had to do was not let them score and they almost choked it. If the Patriots had the final drive and failed to score that'd be a different story because then the offense failed but that wasn't the case.

Say that again?

Reminder that if Jeremy Lane didn't get hurt the patriots would NOT have won

>Pats D didn't hold the Seahawks throughout that game
>Pats D didn't stifle the Greatest Show On Turf
>Pats D didn't stop the Falcons to ensure a comeback

Right. It isn't like Belichick won two rings as a defensive coordinator

That's looking at points allowed. The official statistic that is used to rank defenses is yards allowed.

It uses all stats. Scroll to the right buddy

Pats D is incredibly underrated

>Pats D didn't hold the Seahawks throughout that game
The defense choked it. It was 14-0 and then the Pats defense allowed the Seahawks to score 2 quick TDs and they went into half-time even even though the Patriots looked like the better team.
>Pats D didn't stifle the Greatest Show On Turf
You're right, too bad I'm talking about SB 49 you retarded fuck. But yeah, the Patriots defense was why they won mostly, the had the 2nd best D in the league that year I think.
>Pats D didn't stop the Falcons to ensure a comeback
You're right, they had some clutch plays like the fumble recovery, but to say that the defense outperformed the offense is wrong.

It was tied at halftime and the Seahawks were shut out in the 4th

Their D never gets enough credit

>It uses all stats. Scroll to the right buddy
That list is literally just ranked by points given up, nothing else. Yards given up per game is what is used to rank defenses.
>Pats D is incredibly underrated
I don't even think you watched them in 2012 because you'd remember Kyle Arrington giving opposing QBs free passes every game. That defense let Vince Young drop 400 yards on them. Patriots defense has improved recently but it was complete ass in 2012. I think they had the worst or second worst secondary of all time or something like that, that year.

The only legacy Brady will leave behind when he hangs them up is being a cheater

>Thinking luck is an argument
The turtle catch is literally luckier than anything that happened to the Patriots all season that year

4 > 5*

That's literally wrong you stupid fuck lmfao. Why is California education so shit

>luck

He literally read the play correctly and was able to beat the WR to the ball. That was just a nice INT.

1.000 > 0.714
Stay mad patriotcuck

>make excuses
>NFL can't investigate why you lost by 38 points
wew

I guess Joe Flacco is better than Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning with your logic you stupid bitch lmfao

t. triggered

It's simple, Montana is better than Brady and never had to cheat. It's a shame the inbred New England cucks can't realize this

If Montana is so good why doesn't he have 5 rings?

>all records broken
>had literal best receiver the entire time
>brady had literal whos most of his career
Okay, whatever you say, Gramps.

>trent dilfer and brad johnson are more GOAT material than brady

See
>won 2 super bowls before rice was drafted
Doesn't sound like he had him for his "entire" career.

Are you also saying Gronk, Moss, and Welker are literal who's?

>harder competition
>supposed to be the GOAT
>can't get 5 rings

It doesn't add up to me buddy. Also you say Montana never cheated but didn't Jerry Rice admit to using stickum on his gloves lol

Gloves that receiver's use today are literally stickum 2.0 so it really doesn't matter

Tom Brady won a Super Bowl throwing to Troy Brown, Jermaine Wiggins, and David Patten.

What does that have to do with the fact that he broke the rules, therefore cheating? Also no, stickum is way worse than the gloves.

Gloves gave receivers as much of an advantage as stickum did, it's a fact

The patriots defense carried them