I think we can all agree

I think we can all agree

Rogue 1 > TFA

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no

at least i didnt fall asleep during TFA

Without a doubt.

both were shit

This. I watched both at home on my Kodi... and TFA was at least engaging. R1 - I zoned out on the Asian planet through up until they were on the beach planet.

They're both mediocre, but RO is just a dinky side story, whereas TFA is supposed to be a full-fledged sequel to the OT.

So I hate TFA more because
1) While they both have shit characters, I'm stuck with TFA's characters for an entire trilogy
2) TFA shits all over the happy ending of ROTJthat tied up all the loose ends. The way they designed TFA, they basically fucked up everything that happened over the course of the OT.

...

take your meds next time

tru

>Streaming movies prior to Blu-ray release on Kodi
Oh, user...

>77
Star Wars was released in 1977

>everything I disagree with is Sup Forums

>51
The number of times I've ejaculated to slave leia photos since learning of Carrie Fisher's death

>57
Star Wars was released 20 years after 1957

>>>/reddit/

nice trip fag

Rogue One's story was pretty fucking stupid, but Force Awaken's story was pretty fucking cliched.

I'd say Force Awakens was better because it didn't have as many goddamn "never tell me the odds" moments. Rogue One had impossibly lucky timing ad nauseam. I stopped caring after Mads died.

Also, TFA's villain was more fleshed out. R1's villain was basically just a copy of the general in TFA. If R1 had focused more on the falling out between Krennic and Erso, instead of Krennic and Tarkin (a fucking pointless cameo) it would have been GOAT.

I don't think JJ or Gareth should have gotten to direct either, though, and I'm cautiously optimistic about Rian Johnson directing 8.

nice asshurt cuck

I think that once the dust settles Rogue One will go down as the best of the Star Wars films.

This is a meticulously constructed film in which every minor character has a grand implicit backstory. Each of them, from Krennic to Bodhi, contribute to the film's thematic thrust in unpredictable and elegant ways. It carefully moves the pawns into position and then executes one of the most jaw-dropping climaxes we've seen in a blockbuster in recent memory.

Meanwhile, it's throws down some of the deepest lore I've seen in the EU since the fucking Thrawn trilogy. Krennic, many years delinquent on delivering the Death Star project that his superiors increasingly scoff at, becomes increasingly obsessed with leveraging the weapon's destructive powers and pushes the Empire's foreign policy in a more extreme direction because of it. Meanwhile, you get to see how Vader came **this** close to dooming the whole mission, and how desperate the sacrifices were that foiled the Empire's plans.

In 10 years when we've had 6-7 truly garbage Star Wars films, you guys will look back at R1 as the glory days.

>While they both have shit characters, I'm stuck with TFA's characters for an entire trilogy
Poe and Finn aren't bad and we're getting more characters next movie, so settle down.
>TFA shits all over the happy ending of ROTJthat tied up all the loose ends

Kinda how like the Star Wars EU did too, huh?

Nothing pointless about Tarkin's cameo. Tarkin is a bureaucrat who understands neither Vader's sith bullshit nor Krennic's zealotry. But, provided with a weapon as efficient as the Death Star, he's going to set about using it. Krennic/Tarkin dynamic in R1 is some deep fucking Empire lore and you are a little bitch for not appreciating it

i just dont understand how people can like anything directed by jj abrams.

NOOOOOOOOONONONONONONONONONONOONNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO FUCKKK NO.

TO ANYONE WHO THINKS ROGUE ONE IN ITS ENTIRETY IS BETTER THAN ( TFA) you gotta be pretty wrong IN MY OPINION.

YOU'RE A LITTLE BITCH

says you

5>6>4>RO>power gap>3>7>2>1

RO had a true SW feel to it that none of the other non-original tril films ever had.

The EU was easy to ignore, you could always refute any bullshit it brought up with "Not in the movies, not canon"
Now we just have to accept it.

>star wars eu
Who gives a flying fuck

See, part of the reason I loved RO was because I felt like it wasn't like the OT at all. I like the original trilogy, of course, I just wanted a one-off story willing to take some risks, and it did.

>Starwars EU. A bunch of books you can ignore but they start out with remnant factions having civil war over power grabs.

>TFA. Oh hey there's like the not empire and not rebels. Here have a blatant marysue and some cameos, wasn't starwars great?

What a time to be alive.

If you're going to object to the fact of more star wars movies existing in the first place, what's the point of arguing with you about the content of the actual movies? If they ARE going to make more, they had damn sure better have epic conflict in them with super high stakes.

I think it's dope that Luke bailed to his grey havens or whatever, frodo style, and they're bringing him back into The Shit.

>TFA shits all over the happy ending of ROTJthat tied up all the loose ends

Did you expect everything in the galaxy to just be happy go lucky for eternity? fuckin retard

Probably. I don't give a fuck about EU though. I only watch the movies.

NO

it could've been but it wasn't

>MOUSE COCK TASTES DELICIOUS

>another boring-to-tears paint by numbers disney adventure flick
>taking risks

literally zero risks taken by the movie. There was unironically more risk in killing Harrison ford than all of rogue one

>If they ARE going to make more, they had damn sure better have epic conflict in them with super high stakes.

But the entire point was that ROTJ wrapped up everything. There didn't need to be any more movies made after that. So arguing "well if we had to have movies, then that means they need to have a new conflict" is flawed, but because the very premise is incorrect.

And even with that out of the way, you can have continued conflict without just saying "lol the rebel alliance won but we blew them up so ha ha". Much less including divorced old han/leia for literally no other reason than that JewJew wanted to recreate the original star wars, and so Han needed to be single smuggler again.

It was executed very poorly and in bad taste. Basically all the events of the OT are rendered pointless.

Amazingly enough even the EU handled post RotJ better than episode VII did. EU didn't really start going off the rails until the jedi order

>In 10 years when we've had 6-7 truly garbage Star Wars films, you guys will look back at R1 as the glory days.
Well I agree with this at least

Oh for fucks sake, I'm not saying it's realistic. Star Wars is fucking scifi FANTASY. It's okay to have a movie end on a happily ever after note.

We didn't need to worry ourselves with the fact that there would be further mopping up of the imperial remnants and that setting up the republic would be tough. We didn't need to hear about Han and Leia getting old and crusty and going through a divorce.

Yeah, that's all "realistic" but it's not what people want from an ending.

>they had damn sure better have epic conflict in them with super high stakes.

jesus christ. Only a mouse cock sucker watches TFA or Rogue one and says "whoa bro, what an epic conflict with super high stakes"

I just want a Blu-ray release because I want a capture of that one shot with Jyn and Cassian on the beach looking at the incoming explosion.

This. TFA turned the main three's lives into a fucking tragedy, yet RO is the one "too dark" for Star Wars according to plebs like Mike.

I fell asleep during R1 but I still liked it better

its literally douche vs turd sandwich.

If you like any of these films you need to go back to the youtube comment section

>modern disney
>any capeshit
>Star Wars
>Transformers
>Fast and the Furious

if you enjoy those films that's fine, just please go back to youtube

Lol go suck some transporter cock or something

I liked Rogue One in general, but it suffered from too much fan service, just like Episode VII did

* CGI Tarkin worked in 1-2 scenes, but in others he was firmly in uncanny valley territory, and it was distracting. Would have been better to just have him offscreen communicating via memo or something

* Vader seriously did not need to be in this movie. The castle was dumb, the pun was insulting, and him personally killing rebels at the end contributed nothing

* CGI Leia was also creepy, especially since I saw it today with Fisher dying and all

* C-3P0 and R2-D2 didn't need to be in this

* The "I've got a death mark in three systems" and his Walrus buddy showing up doesn't even make sense considering the city they were in gets blown up like an hour later

* The stuff they lifted straight from the EU was annoying, but admittedly if you didn't know about it you probably wouldn't have an issue with it

That said, for the most part I thought Jyn was fine. Cassian suddenly deciding not to carry out his mission was shit writing though and they gave no explanation for it.

I left TFA thinking it was good but whatever
I left R1 and immediately bought a ticket for the next showing I loved it that much

yeah you can include transporter on films that should get you sentenced to youtube

>TFA
derivative, stupid, undercooked story

>Rogue 1
derivative, stupid, undercooked story

Gee tough call

>But the entire point was that ROTJ wrapped up everything.
You have to justify what you are saying by "the entire point". The point of what? Of Star Wars, period? If so, what is that point? Seems to me, it was the ending of a particular story. Why does that indicate to you that there aren't other stories that would later occur within a given, you know, galaxy? How many stories have occurred in yours?
>There didn't need to be any more movies made after that.
There didn't need to be any movies made in the first place.

>So arguing "well if we had to have movies, then that means they need to have a new conflict" is flawed, but because the very premise is incorrect.
Even if we're going to pretend this sentence makes sense, you haven't made a single point so far, so why are you pretending like you've already won an argument?

>you can have continued conflict without just saying "lol the rebel alliance won but we blew them up so ha ha". Much less including divorced old han/leia for literally no other reason than that JewJew wanted to recreate the original star wars, and so Han needed to be single smuggler again.
This is an entirely separate discussion than whether or not it's a good idea to have additional films set in the Star Wars universe that take place chronologically later than ROTJ.

That wasn't what I was arguing at all.

But if you do want to have that discussion, you sound like a fucking moron who wouldn't have anything valid to say. Prove me wrong?

Whoa

Cassian not carrying about his mission was because part of him believed Jyn and her story about the plans.

He realized that killing him would do no good considering the death star was already operational.

Also by that time they had the defected pilot who presumably (in a cut scene) told Cassian about how he defected and his mission.

>calls others idiots
>doesn't even know about the burden of proof

back to the youtube comment gulag

>I liked a mickey mouse movie

sir I believe you stumbled on to the wrong site.

www.youtube.com seems to be the website you were looking for

Since when does burden of proof include responding to idiotic strawmen? I suspected you weren't worth my time. Get fucked.

It said Lucasfilm at the beginning. How much of an economics blackbelt do I have to have before I can decide if I liked a movie?

yes

It's not even a debate

>77727777

>Those edgy sevens

wasted quads

Not at all. TFA's pacing is leagues better, the cast is more likable, there's much more atmosphere, and there's at least some attempts to have some original imagery (even if it still borrows heavily from the OT). The best things about R1 are that everyone dies and that one Vader scene.

t. someone who literally re-watched TFA just now and watched R1 a week ago. Maybe when I see R1 again I will find it more favorable but I doubt it.

>no quip-focused dialogue
>less abject "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT HOW DIVERSE OUR FILM IS!" garbage
>characters talk like real people
>the android wasn't forced to try and copy an ideal and become completely unoriginal, becoming a much more interesting and unique character as a result
>the action was brutal and intimate so it had impact and weight to what was happening
>interesting shots that aren't all just flat, wide, boring panoramics
>the main character wasn't a mary sue and had personal flaws and wasn't perfect at everything so she was more relatable

This was unbelievably better than the TFA. I guess when I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I really should've given this a chance.

Went along with a group because they wanted to see.

>liking a non-political movie now makes you Sup Forums

Not even joking here, I'm genuinely with 100% certainty stating in an unaltered state; KILL YOURSELF.

Rogue One was vastly superior, TFA was kiddie fare.

>TFA's pacing is better

If you call tone-deaf leaping from formulaic plot turn to formulaic plot turn "pacing", alrighty.

The pacing was objectively better in Rogue 1, since they had an actual story to tell, where-as in TFA, it was just a diversity show-case with JJ Abrams shitty directing style showing how everything unfolded.

The only time I was engaged during TFA was....Come to think of it, I don't recall any part of it being engaging, since it was such a fucking mess. Rogue One felt like an actual movie, with an actual story, that was actually grounded, while TFA felt like so surreal. Massacres happening left and right, and the characters can't help but smirk for the camera and deliver and quip.

Fucking awful.

>
I believe you guys are looking for www.youtube.com

I've done more with those se7ens than you've done in your lifetime famblood. Standard, innit.

Fucks said this about ROTS about 10 years ago too. RO was an underdeveloped generic action movie with Star Wars nostalgia. Not bad, but arguably hovering above the PT in terms of quality.

ok tripfag

Prove me wrong. Prove that the dialogue in TFA was better. Show me a scene where two characters have a non-snarky exchange that isn't riddled with jokes because the hack-writers were afraid of excluding a demographic.

r1 was better than tfa in literally every single way. if disney started with r1 instead of tfa, i would have been less pessimistic about new star wars.

You are a pez dispenser in a world of AT-ATs. I bade thee well padder one

This guy gets it.

I swear to god, all the TFA shills here have to be from some fucking fan-forum, the difference is night and day between the two and shows how much of an incompetent idiot JJ is, and the people who wrote it.

Then again, they were 100% following the typical Marvel formula, so it's not surprise that people blindly accept it. Seems like if you throw enough generic characters with hokey dialogue at the screen, they'll eat it up.

I didnt fall asleep but yeah I was really bored through most of Rogue One, but I did think it was better than TFA.

Way too many references though. Because I'm an autistic SW fan since I caught all of them and it was easily one every 5 minutes, and if it wasnt a reference it was a shitty quip from the stupid droid.

by far.

The fan service was tolerable. Grand Moff Tarkin was creepy looking and unnecessary. C3PO was also unnecessary. Other than that, it was totally acceptable.

definitely, easily worse

the only good thing about this movie is how effective of a pleb filter it is

Regardless, Rogue One gave us roughly one minute of high quality kino.

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You're right, it filters the plebs right out. You can tell by those who thought it was bad. Complete and total plebs. Go back to watching your JJ Abrams prescription of Marvel meds and Disney kid-bang wizzlies.

are you implying that the disneyfied marvel movie is less pleb than r1?

Take your wu xia black hawk down star wars and fuck off. It does not exist in this dojo

>wu xia

Do you even know what that means?

That's literally the Force Awakens, with main character Mary Sue jumping across star destroyers and modifying ships on the fly with her psycho-kinetic-know-it-all powers.

Fuck off kid-dick.

Yeah though the mouse in your picture had nothing to do with it.

>ur shit movie is shit
>no ur shit movie is shit

guys. they are both shit, but in different ways.

Vader slasher movie when

both movies are crappy disney movies, but r1 is worse

Rogue One took more risks, by being darker and not having a happy ending and have main characters who aren't devout paragons of morality.

The battle scenes are also top notch, even if I do have some personal problems with how they portrayed the Empire (even though in ROTJ they were essentially defeated by Ewoks, which I also have a gigantic problem with), it topples every single scene in TFA that had the Empire in it.

Oh, bullshit. When's the ladt time a Disney or Star Wars movie had an "Everyone dies" ending? No risks my ass.

Closest you'll get is Episode 3, where Anakin literally cuts down children Jedi.

Just saw the movie. It was shit, boring as fuck and TFA was superior.

my gf's fb post

>That was one expensive nap.
>[snapshot of RO]

>she went in expecting to see something like TFA

>fell asleep

This is a good thing. Thins out the herd of sheeple that pretend to like star wars.

Both were shit, but atleast I got some entertainment out of TFA.

into the bin you go

That's a keeper

Krennic popping out from behind the pillar at the end like some stupid comic book villain was acceptable? This movie was a joke save for a handful of action sequences. The dialogue was awful, you praise the pacing yet every sequence was just a disjointed hop from one planet to the next, the musical score was a bastardization of the orginal score, and none, I repeat none, of the characters were memorable except for the stupid, Marvel-tier quips Alan Tudyk's robot and Donnie Yen (FUCKING DONNIE YEN) kept spouting. Let me guess, you were one of those autists chanting "I am one with the Force, and the Force is with me" whenever he said it, right? Fucking off yourself if you thought this piece of crap was some masterpiece

>but atleast I got some entertainment out of TFA.

I bet you also thought the Revenant was overrated.