ITT: industry plants

ITT: industry plants

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The Steve Cannon story of his is probably true, but him and Lil Skies are absolutely plants.

There's no way you make an instagram and on your first month have 16,000 likes and 3,000 comments only just a year and a half ago.

she's almost hot for a nigress but why does her face look so swollen and oily all the time?

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I want to plant my dick in her industry

is the industry plant meme an american thing?

I also feel it means literally nothing to anyone who knows anything about music.

it's very real

explain

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as real as your exercise schedule you told yourself you'd keep to this year?

t.

>marketing departments: exist
>people telling each other about the music they listen to, sometimes leading to these people also becoming fans, which from time to time happens at a surprisingly fast rate or to more people than one might expect: exists
>Sup Forums: these random artists i dislike were plucked from the streets by labels who mind controlled all the normies/plebs/p4kfags/etc into liking them. also sometimes there's something about the music industry being a tool of the jewish plot to conquer the world or whatever

major labels pay popular music media outlets to promote certain artists under the guise of being indie/diy

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i understand the whole mindlessness thing in regards to pop music has been around forever, with the less decisive and more impressionable falling victim to the whole conspiracy memes that are circulating more recently, but get over yourself.
when you have a job and an income, with a position that matters to you personally and to the people that work for you, you will look back on your teenage self with embarrassment.

i know i do.

google has been doing this forever.

it is how almost everyone makes money.

are you so clueless that you think you're the only person that knows this?

shut up faggot

>an American thing

Not at all, Sup Forums at times misuses the phrase to troll though.

In the UK it seems like 80% of all female solo acts seem to have a rich, well-connected daddy who gets them into BRIT School, then into the arms of a group of Producers/Songwriters/Engineers to shit out their twee debut album. I'm sure it's even worse over the Atlantic.

It's only natural that labels push certain genres in popular times, remember how overexposed Disco got?

oh sorry, is this you admitting your intelligence is drastically average?

shut up faggot

so what you're saying is it has become more like politics?

however, you're glazing over how you are suggesting that the well connected, and subsequently well educated, are ill deserving of some validation for their efforts and funds?

as someone who lives in the UK, assuming you are too, you are aware that almost every person in a position of power has a good education. this naturally leads to a better job. which naturally leads to better opportunities.

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God, I want to fuck her so bad, I got a mad case of jungle fever. Imagine those lips wrapped around my BWC.

You've lost me mate, I was just making an observation. Naturally the more powerful will have a disproportionate influence on what makes it to the market, yes.

I would say it's unfair and tiresome though. Provincial working class bands have probably had the largest effect on the UK's musical prestige worldwide, not dull Waitrose wank like Mumford and Sons.

her hair looks gross

>this

my point is that the buzz term 'industry plant' is actually just a thin veil masking jealousy.

whining bitches dont got it. gotta moan on their blogs.

>Provincial working class bands have probably had the largest effect on the UK's musical prestige worldwide
i would kind of agree, which is why i made the point earlier in the thread to ask if this was entirely an american meme.

meaning on Youtube mainly

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Wouldn't every major artist be an industry plant? Somebody is investing in them.

I think the difference would be if an artist started gaining momentum on thier own and then being noticed by a label rather than a label picking someone from obscurity and marketing the hell out of them/paying for publicity.

There's certain genres and demographics that are more inclined towards "indie"(whatever that means these days) DIY artists/aesthetics. So you would assume these consumers are out of the reach of major labels, i.e colombia atlantic etc.
So I always thought of the whole industry plant meme as major labels covertly funding, promoting and designing some "artist" from the bottom up to appeal to these previously untapped demos

not only that but the artist that is getting marketed a lot maintains a facade that they started becoming popular on their own rather than with the help of connections and money

hit the nail on the head

those thighs oml

ill post some

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someday i'm gonna be an industry plant

I wish i was one of the grammy guys you have to screw to win the awards. Sza wouldve needed a wheelburrow for all those little golden niggas.

no jumper gave him clout

its very hard to gain momentum on your own these days.. you just have too much competitions

last nights winner!

i can keep going all day

the most cleanly executed of all industry plants, yams played the internet to perfection.

How have they not been posted yet?

>Had no idea who she was until she won a grammy last night

So I did my Googlefu. How she won new artist when she's apparently been a new artist since 2015 is beyond me.

You must be 18 or over to use this site.

he's such a weird looking motherfucker

yeh honestly where the fuck did these guys come from, didn't hear shit about them until saturation

can someone explain the concept of 'industry plant' to me? who decides who gets planted? why?

>industry has an artist they'd like to become popular
>they know simply promoting them to death will make the artist's work seem less valid because they are essentially forcing exposure
>what they do instead is promote them through more circuitous routes until they can put them in the spotlight directly
>who? people who want to make money
>why? to make more money

lol
these dudes met on KTT

I wasn't even aware she claims to be "indie" just figured straight up commercial.

A likely story

cole bennet video is what did it, i agree w lil skies tho

So the real question is.

If there industry plants, does it even make any difference?

I mean I get we no one likes being played out and lied to, but here me out. Your an artist, you try sell you shit, no traction. you go to a label, they go yeh we can sell this. they pump you up in there own sneaky way.
how does make the Artists bad? there just trying to break into in incredibly difficult business, we can't expect them to just turn down any offers for help.
then once the musics out, you either like it as fans or you don't, as per

billboard.com/articles/news/6671107/halsey-the-weeknd-drugs-badlands-billboard-feature

>Art-Pop Singer Halsey on Being Bipolar, Bisexual and an 'Inconvenient Woman

hows no one posted it
>how can we market odd future but gay and gap friendly to america
because industry plants always make bad music

well people like chance and asap made it look like their come-up was organic and through the internet and through building a fanbase but thats just not true. if you look at people that actually grinded to come up and built a grassroots fanbase you can find evidence of them before they got big, mixtapes, old youtube videos. its just a con and people dont like being conned.

chance is the worst because he still pulls that "no label" shit even though his dad was loaded and he went from being a literal nobody with no fans to having justice league production and a twista feature on his tape.

its no more hit or miss than the mainstream.

nah post malone isnt an industry plant

gets 0 love from critics and awards and tv shows

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mm fair point

industry plants make the music industry seem open. people like to see people become famous for talent, but don't mind some untalented people getting lucky. industry plants make the music industry seem healthy. comparing them to other mainstream music is perfectly apt, but their existence has a more negative impact than a simple industry artist.

I know a guy who grew up with Lil Skies. Apparently he had been making mediocre soundcloud rap for a year before blowing up, but the biggest difference was just the face tats. As soon as he got those, people on social media started fucking with him and he blew up solely on image. That's all that matters these days.

>someone makes this joke every thread

hes literally an industry plant his dad is on the board of directors for the fucking dallas mavericks

it's just fun to point them out, especially if they harp on about having worked so hard and followed their dreams and so on when in fact their parents sold them off to be groomed into singers by major labels as kids, or some svengali picked them up from the gutter and had producers turn them into superstars. most of the time they're just another rich, well-connected kid who gets daddy to pay for their career, and the odd ones that miraculously 'make it' are the ones you see in this thread

also pic related

JUST

Underrated.

SZA is talented fuck you

and cuff boys pushed him hard along with landon cube the new way to blow up is to have clouted up youtubers viralize you

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>i hope i am not doing this for nothing

idk, the win butler of old just strikes me as a semi-bumpkin who happened to tap into something that resonated with people as insufferable as himself. then again, their rise to popularity felt pretty suspicious, with all the attention they got. even early on they were shilled massively

i do wonder however what columbia records thought when arcade fire delivered their newest album. like the suits were probably hoping for more of that super earnest cathartic rock music à la the suburbs and instead got cabaret disco by a bunch of people who discovered the concept of irony in their 30s

sup reddit

I do believe there's plants, but why can't an artist blow up on youtube, sign to a label, then their just in the business?

I remember watching Kygo remixes few years back on youtube, just his normal account, views slowly crept up each year. Then one day he had his own song on the radio, which did really well and I was just like wtf, the youtube guy?

Alright pay attention I'll explain what a lot of this is coming from.

Basically there's no way to properly release music in the traditional sense, ie anything that'll reach the radio one day. That doesn't funnel through the big multinational music labels Sony BMG, Atlantic etc.

Now what happens its you get sub labels, and sub labels of them, all the way down to the artists with their own label with just them on it (more about protecting their own rights than anything).

Now your on your own and want to distribute your music, but oh, who going to put it out there other than you on youtube or Soundcloud NO ONE, its hard to even get music on iTunes and Spotify.

SO at that point you can go to someone that calls them self an "indie label". They might run out the back of shed etc. but at the end of the day they have connections and have made financial deals that give a percentage of their profit to the parent label/s for the chance to be distributed out to radios, iTunes etc.

The closer to the top labels are the mainstream, the lower level is the "indie". but its all part of the same machine. Depending on how these labels want to operate, the crosstalk and deals made between parent and child labels etc. is what probably leads to this "plant" sort of stuff.

TLDR; "Indie" labels are rarely independent.
The music industry has been monopolised

I think his dad is in charge of concessions. Which isn't really that special.

the live music industry traffics drugs

and their is more fake live performances than you could possibly imagine

good night

>>Her father was an executive producer at CNN, while her mother was an executive at AT&T.

really makes you think

The Cowboys, actually. That might actually be a decent paying gig.

hey don't pick on lorde

that dyke lookin bitch is so off-putting, what the fuck is wrong with your jawline-neck-head combo for fucks sake

>BWC
keep dreaming and stick to cucked threads.

the man literally could not write a hit to save his life.

This is true. I'm a musician and I've witnessed stuff I wish I hadn't

sza was kinda famous in 2014, get over it

And? That didn't help him get where he was. He moved to LA with a friend and White Iverson blew up when popular rappers started tweeting it.

absolutely disgusting

That's why she's a plant sweetie

Your example is not that of an industry plant. Your example is of someone who actually does the work and signed with a major. Signing with a label doesn't mean they are lazy fucks. But if an act gets out of nowhere and is signed to a major with no previous experience you can be sure they're a plant.

you can literally find the thread on ktt you moron
kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=51240.0

She's trying so hard to be edgy it's not even funny

leave our women alone

Lol, why would we imagine her lips around YOUR BWC?
stfu lol. Damn.

This this this right here. It is VERY hard for an artist to be truly independent, out of all factors lack of time is already enough. Just booking already takes a shitload of time, compound other business stuff on top of it AND actually making music, practicing etc, there's just not enough time.
Also: labels unironically sabotage those who try to be independent. That includes the "indie" labels slaving away for the majors. People need to stop thinking the internet freed the industry, it's very far from freedom yet. The last truly independent artist I remember listening to was a singer songwriter from Wales who was very beloved around there for singing in Welsh, so he could make a living out of playing few places(there was actually time to organize himself, and he didn't need to split with anyone else - he probably has to live simply though, but I think that's preferrable to being a slave, though living simply in comfy Wales is different from living simply in a big city)