Be Francis Ford Coppola

>be Francis Ford Coppola
>direct a film which depicts explorers, extreme violence, beheadings, a fearsome native jungle tribe infiltrated by whites, real animal cruelty, and a nice score, all in the service of making larger, sometimes humorous, but always dark points about humanity
>receive universal critical acclaim, have your film remembered as one of the all-time great films about war

>be Ruggero Deodato, one year later
>direct a film which depicts explorers, extreme violence, beheadings, a fearsome native jungle tribe infiltrated by whites, real animal cruelty, and a nice score, all in the service of making larger, sometimes humorous, but always dark points about humanity
>have your movie banned everywhere as torture porn and get hauled into court to legally prove that no human beings died in the production of your film

What's the animal cruelty in Apocalypse Now?

It was the Italian's fault for specifically telling the actors to go low profile for a while to make the movie look authentic. Also Cannibal Holocaust had no redeeming qualities, it's shocking and violent for the sake of it with very little in between.

I think a couple of the zipperheads got hurt on set because they didn't bother to give them stand-ins for stunt performances

They kill a water buffalo.

How's the rape in CH?

During the final jungle festival, the natives decapitate a live buffalo with a sword

There isn't animal cruelty in CH

>be Coppola
>be normie-tier pleb

>be Deodato
>be brilliant avant-garde basement-dweller

That simple

Apparently they killed a turtle.

awful bait faggot

Is Cannibal Holocaust actually good? I always thought it was a meme.

CH sucked ass. I was expecting some real scary shit, but it basically was just torture porn. And this is coming from 14 year old me's perspective. CH objectively is not that good of a film.

No, It's a very 70s Italian thing. you can smell the spaghetti.

the best part is apocalypse now had a bunch of actually dead human beings from the local morgue strung up and used as set pieces

Yes, there is, so. You are confirmed for never having watched the film in its unexpurgated verson, or having looked up details.

The turtle-kill is the dramatic part. There is a quite nasty bit about 20 minutes in where they actually kill like a rodent-thing, which is much worse on film because it looks halfway cute and you can actually see the pain in its eyes. Also a guy actually kicks some pig-thing or lower animal in the village.

It's wholly exploitative and a meme, but it has pretty good production values for what it is. That was a vague statement, but it does actually rise just above the level of pure pornography (depite the fact that its lead actor is himself a porn actor) in that it does actually approximate toward a social commentary, which is rendered hypocritical by the production ethics of the film, which are not limited to animal cruelty, but apparently actors had a real hard time with deodato.

Where's the bait? I'm quite right in pointing out the absurdity of the outcomes.

wow, it's almost like the way the director presents content is more important than the content itself

>Cannibal Holocaust had no redeeming qualities, it's shocking and violent for the sake of it with very little in between.

This, that movie sucked.

There's certainly a lot of it.

From what I recall:

>Muskrat thing gets stabbed in the neck
>Turtle (endangered, no less) gets chopped up
>Monkey gets its face chopped off with a machete
>Piglet gets shot

You're very close to forgetting it, and you make good points.

Still, something impressed itself upon me: Blair Witch is wholly derivative of the premise and presentation. I'm not just talking basics, but actual details of what goes on in the "found footage": crazy kids with one woman wander off innawoods, changing camera angles, constantly documenting, even when it's totally stupid to do so, in search of an extreme documentary. Somehow, they manage to piss off the Powers of the Woods, and so their cameras and recovered footage (following their deaths) document the escalating tensions in the group, desire to escape, and abject failure to do so. Eventually the Powers run them to ground and murder them, for the camera to infer. It cuts out.

When a meme reproduces in this way there is a peculiar interest in understanding what unsavory precursor it had.

Maybe it's because, I don't know, Apocalypse Now's deep content and masterful form? How is this even a question? I like Cannibal Holocaust but it has a very shallow social critique and relies on shock value. It's still a good film though.

>Also Cannibal Holocaust had no redeeming qualities.

It works great as a parable for mondo movies and sensationalist documentaries, which in turn, were prophetic in today's reality TV driven society.

Deodato definitely should've restrained himself with the animal killing though.

t. Someone who never saw Cannibal Holocaust

Apocalypse Now didn't claim the main characters were dead and had an impalement scene that looked so good the director had to prove it was fake in a murder trial.