Nightly Islam Thread - Thoughtful Mode

Ramadan Mubarak; Good evening; Good Morning; Good afternoon; As-salamu alaykum.

Welcome to the Sup Forums daily Islam thread, a space for dialogue and understanding.

Myself and my Muslim brothers and sisters will try our best to clear up any misunderstandings or misgivings you may have about the world's fastest growing and oldest religion, Islam.

New reverts to Islam, please speak up in here and share your stories.

As always, serious questions will get serious answers. Islamophobic comments/memes will be ignored, hidden and wordfiltered.

To my fellow Muslims: How is the fasting going? Are you sticking with it? Don't forget suhur!

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Fuck off you filthy sandnigger paki

In the Qu'ran, Israel is mentioned as a pre requisite of the end times. Why do most muslims ignore this?

salam alaikum

Justify what your prophet did to the Banu Qurayza.

>American education

Can't wait to start bombing your shithole country!

Fug, it's impostor Poland again. What did you do with Poland?!

a good salami lick em to you too

Shoo Shoo

Trips of Truth and FPBP.

no

Islam is not the oldest religion, it is actually the newest major religion, dipass

Eh you're right, we've shooed you good out of here already
I don't need you to shoo, your primitive religion is only present among less than 0.1% of the population here, and that includes jews, buddhists etc

>1 post by this ID

Hmmm

Islam has existed since man has existed because Islam is the true religion which was practices by all the Prophets and Adam and Eve.

Who cares about Portugal. Nations like France or Germany or the Uk actually matter.

>Islam has existed since man has existed because Islam is the true religion which was practices by all the Prophets and Adam and Eve.
And from my perspective, Norse Mythology is the true religion, thus oldest religion.

Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds?

OP, where do I start?

Historically, muhammed had his first revelation in 610, long after Buddha, Abraham, and Jesus

From Matthew 7:15–20 (KJV):

>"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

From Luke 6:43-45 (KJV):

>"For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh."

With these parables in mind, why do you think Islam keeps convincing people to blow themselves up? Is it not the religion of Satan?

>Islam has existed since man has existed because Islam is the true religion which was practices by all the Prophets and Adam and Eve.
>Islam
>whose prophet is a guy who was born in 570 AD
>is practised by first man and woman

What are the rules regarding masturbation? Are muslims allowed this practice?

Islam is not just the Prophet you know, there were Prophets before him. Also Prophets of Islam who spread Islam.

So what are you guys having for Ramadan

Pic Related with some German Beer for me

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No one of your race and religion cares because you got btfo'd so hard you never came back. Besides, we get to have our quiet little corner away from all the shitstorm Central Europe is going through.

They were Jews in the old testament.

No, they were Muslims. Moses was a Muslim who spread Islam. Jew is a corrupted version of this which came out of this over time. Which is why more Prophets came to correct it.

Am I being trolled here ?

Muhammad is the fucking founder of islam, how can there be prophets of islam before him ?

What do muslims do when they walk into a gay bar?

>implying c4 was around lol

I thought you had morocco niggers coming over the strait of gibraltar. Guess they all go to Andalusia and establish kebab stands.

This triggers the Islamabads

Islam does not begin with Muhammad. It begins with the first men who were in submission to God. All the Prophets and all their followers before the corruptions of the truth were Muslims. Muhammad was the final Prophet who came to correct the corruptions.

Name a single thing Moses said that contradicts anything else he said. Just one thing. I'll wait.

>worshiping penaldo

lol

straight bacon and ham smoothie with a side of anal porn

Wut

Not really, they go to Spain. We had refugees a couple of months ago, they all left while complaining that we wouldn't give them free shit and not tolerate the shit Germany and Sweden do (not by these exact words but you know)

they dont smack anyone's ass , we respect relationships

he REALLY cleared the corruptions

read this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

>The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents' home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.

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>oldest religion
>a goat fucking Nigger told another nigger to write some shit down because he did not know how to read
>700 years after the new testment

Since when? I don't recall ever meeting a moral Turk. Hell, they still don't even acknowledge the Armenian genocide, how can they possibly respect something as irrelevant as a relationship?

You fucking dune coons can eat my dick.

Get off my board. REEEEEEEEEEE

Not all Muslim scholars (since eschatology is not a mainstream conversation in Islam, it has only ever been a debate amongst scholars - most Muslims are unaware of the texts in this regard) interpret the text in the same way. The key differences regard timing. As far as I know, there is nothing in the Qur'an or Hadith to suggest that the end times are near enough to imply a final confrontation, in our lifetime, in Dabiq/Amik against the Jews and the Christians etc. as ISIS is actively working to provoke. For example, it is prophesised for example that a battle will usher in Muslim total control of the Indian subcontinent long BEFORE the final battle in Dabiq/Amike, and India is currently under the control of the Hindus.

There are theological, as well as ideological reasons why most Muslims do not support ISIS, and why almost nobody would suggest that ISIS represents Islam.

I think you've asked before and I've answered before. What about my answer didn't satisfy you?

FPBP

>be moroccan

>go to portugal

lol most supid thing ever

Not as stupid as worshiping ahriman in the guise of YHVH ;)

inb4 vpn

i'm not turk

>implying your prayers and everything you do wont be accepted for 40 years if you sleep with someone's wife

ok I read it, what about it?

>Oldest religion
Try harder

Here's a serious question. Why can't you just leave me alone? Do your own shit in your own place, why must you infest places and demand they convert?

Fucking leave me alone

>oldest religion

it is a fact

>talks about Adam and Eve
>not allowed to read the bible

> Then We [Allah] said to the Israelites: 'Dwell in this land [the Land of Israel]. When the promise of the hereafter [End of Days] comes to be fulfilled, We [Allah] shall assemble you [the Israelites] all together [in the Land of Israel]."

Not ambiguous.

I have read the Bible and I am using the English for them just for ease of discussion.

All Muslims are pigs and Allah the Slave God will drown in their blood desu

Lol

literally just google it

>Yahwist death cults beings the oldest religion

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Mesopotamian_religion

Get rekt

A prophet fucking a 10 year old, how much more degeneracy do you need ? Hell, Muhammad can be the smartest man alive, fooling millions of people for his pleasure.

>Corrupted
Why did God allow this?

>What about my answer didn't satisfy you?
Well, saying that "it was a different time" but then also saying "they deserved it since they may or may not have betrayed the prophet" isn't enough, since you were unable to prove there was any such treachery.

>inb4 tu quoque

Conclusion, Muhammad betrayed them just for the expansion of his power.

That's wife. What about my girlfriend? Keep in mind, I bench over 2 plates so she's definitely not single.

Even Christianity is older than Islam you fuck

>using bench press as a measure of strength

lol, fag

>Islam is the oldest religion
>there are gentiles that SERIOUSLY believe this

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I have already discussed in this thread about it. Read the previous posts.

Those came after Adam and Eve.

Part of free will.

>being such a summer newfag that you don't know the reference

kys

you need to worry about tyron's dick more than muslims

>benches wont make her cum after all

OP, my understanding of Islam is very limited but I do have a problem with muslims coming to my country based on this understanding, as follows:

Islam is not just a religion but a way of life, a legal & justice system, a governance system and a set of religious laws. This system requires an environment where it's laws are not superceded by secular laws, and where all members of society submit to Islamic teachings.

Due to this, part of Islam is about spreading the religion and allowing it to dominate - an understandable aspect of many religions.

A minority of muslims will use extremist means to spread Islam forcefully and reduce the numbers of unbelievers, while the majority of more moderate muslims (I've known many decent muslim people) will be involved in the spread of islam democratically through political means and outbreeding unbelievers.

This is not inherently a bad thing, but as a Christian from a Christian majority and based country, I do not agree with a small amount of Islamic doctrine and some Islamic law (there are many differences between our religions) and I do not think secular Australians want to live under such a system either, but they are unaware that part of the Islamic religion involves the democratic spread and less often the hostile spread.

For this reason I am against Islamic immigration to my country. Am I justified in this if I believe Christ was the son of god and that mohammed was not a prophet? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Pls no taqqiyah, you have nothing to fear from me.

You have no evidence to suggest that Islam existed before Mohammed, in around 500AD. There is hard evidence to suggest that Judaism has existed since BC times, so you cannot claim that Islam is oldest religion in the world.

Religious people are mentally ill.
Islam are the schizo's of the mentally ill.

fuck off

Judaism is just a corrupted form of Islam.

Worship of Allah the moon god exists in Arab paganism prior to Islam.

So it's God's will for humans to do his will, but he is unable to accurately transmit it? Even including free will, it doesn't make sense.

British Muslims are mostly malnourished degenerates who sp drink and smoke and take drugs (but don't eat pork for some reason)

Their faith is about as alive as the faith of Catholic schoolgirls who get Gangbanged by niggers in the usa

They are pathetic parasites mostly, with high unemployment and no future

Wrong, as Islam's inception was after Judaism, then it is infact Islam that could be considered the "corrupted" version.

That still does not mean Islam is the oldest religion.

go bomb somewhere else

There is no more beer in germanistan, quran forbids it. allah inshallah

In gay but I want to be Muslim where do I start?

>Implying shes not literally dating me because of what I lift.

I'm basically trophy boyfriend.

My engineering job is a drop in the bucket compared to what she earns.

That reminds me. I need to pin some test today.

Doesn't matter as long as they take over. Once that happens Islam can be implemented in full.

No, because Islam is truth. Moses was an Islamic Prophet. What the Jews created is a corrupted version of Islam and that corruption is called Judaism.

well ,i find it a contradiction , you said that forcing people to convert to islam is wrong , but letting them convert themselves is also wrong , hell man i have no problem dealing with jews, gays , non muslims in general , so why you wont respect the choice of someone to convert to islam

>shia use taqqiya sunni dont because it said in quran to not keep your faith secret

Fuck off rice nigger. Islam Indo's are the laziest, stupidest and most retarded fuckers I have ever had the misfortune of meeting. Half of your muzrats drink alcohol and eat pork. Go and blow yourself stupid cunt.

>Muslim scholars
(((INTELLECTUALS)))

You couldn't even beat Vietnam. No offence.

Visit your local mosque and have a conversation with an imam, or just anyone who you feel comfortable talking to. Ask them about Islam. Get a real perspective.

The Prophet Muhammad (SAW) had revealed to him a restoration of the original faith, not a new faith. Islam is the uncorrupted faith that Judaism and Christianity (through all its forms and schisms and councils) has corrupted.

Nobody in this thread is demanding you convert. You are free to make your own mistakes, in fact it is written that many like you will. However if we did not at least make you AWARE that you could correct your actions by your own choice and follow the one true path of Islam, we would be extremely neglectful to our fellow human beings.

I don't want to see you in hell.

I'm not entirely sure I said either. Your argument was against the conquering of an enemy people by the armies of the Prophet (SAW), and seems to suggest there is something inherently wicked in the specific act of conquering a people completely.

This comes from the modern, post-WW2, idea that no enemy should be defeated. They should simply be allowed to surrender and get on with their life. Anything more than that is a war crime, specifically genocide.

This is a ridiculous idea, that is a modern innovation. If your enemy is a wicked one, and if you are at war with them, there is nothing wrong with destroying them completely. Leaving behind women and children to continue their wretched, evil tribe is not an option if you want to destroy an enemy.

Hajjis just want an excuse to fuck goats.
At this point it doesn't really make sense, since they could just move to Canada.

So the whole Islam meme is actually just a bunch of Jews trying to out Jew the other Jews on who is more Jewish?

foo fighters is a good band.

Friendly reminder that Islam is the religion of Satan.

Jew is the wrong word. Jew just means Judean, it is a nationality not a religion. Judaism is the Judean corruption of Islam.

>Islam is Truth
Evidence?

>Moses was an Islamic Prophet
Evidence? He was clearly Jewish. Were the people that he "freed" under Egyptian rule also Muslim? Your line of thinking is flawed.
>What the Jews created is a corrupted version of Islam
Are you deliberately shutting yourself to reason? JUDAISM EXISTED BEFORE ISLAM.

No. Islam came from the beginning of man.

>Were the people that he "freed" under Egyptian rule also Muslim?
Yes. Muhammad restored Islam just like Moses.

Yeah it's just slang for more complicated nomenclature.

Do Muslims believe in Jesus?

He distinctly said to pray in your closets, and never make it obvious when you're fasting, to do not do either is to completely negate what it means. It's turning religion into a hypocritical, virtue signalling act which is exactly what atheists have against theists.

Making a thread on it is not praying in your closet. It's gloating your piety.

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>I don't want to see you in hell.
>Muslim admits he's going to hell