Fuck Jordan Peterson

Fuck Jordan Peterson

youtube.com/watch?v=TIZsyQpVzzA

Other urls found in this thread:

slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/
slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
youtube.com/watch?v=QoBpAEj2Jik
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Yeah he's a fascist

never understood why people hate this guy so much, he's basically harmless
there are much better targets for your opposition if you hate the far right

They target him because he's well-read and makes decent points once in a while
He actually has a shot at changing people's minds, unlike some fuckwit like Richard Spencer

*blocks your path*

cucks

...

I was on his side tho
I don't mind him

Nice

This. I don't imagine people look up to him as some substitute father figure like the haters assume. I just enjoy hearing him talk about stuff.

It's funny, over the past year he's been slowly letting out how much of a traditional Christian conservative he is. A year ago when he started getting really popular he seemed like a really refreshing, rational opposition to a lot of the liberalism that's plagued culture, but now he's really revealed his actual persona, going a little bit further every time.

Clearly Kyle would be the one to defeat Stewie

He seems kind of ingenuine to me.

>excuse my language
I heard his estrogen-fuled Kermit the Frog voice in my head when I read that.

he doesn't really say anything directly wrong but he has a pretty shallow understanding of politics, political history, and general discourse. for example he doesn't *really* seem to know what post-modernism or neo-marxism actually is, and is bad at arguing in a way that would actually convince any leftists.

but yeah he gets way too much hate and is pretty much the right's best polarizing wedge. in some sense he's the human embodiment of pepe; someone/something the right can point to when the left associates it with nazis as an example of leftist absurdity.

if you want an actually neutral critic of the left, you might be interested in Scott Alexander

slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/
slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

Did you miss all the times he was critical of Hitler, Nazism, and fascism in general? He mentions it a lot.

>he doesn't *really* seem to know what post-modernism or neo-marxism actually is
This is entirely true, and why I don't listen to him much
But compared to a lot of the "social critics" on the left he sometimes seems a little more reasonable

no

every time he talks about postmodernism it seems like he’s only read authors that criticize it and never the people that are credited for it like foucault or derrida

I watched the Joe Rogan interview out of interest today and it changed my mind on that. In a lot of his interviews he seems very high and mighty but in the recent interview towards the end he just starts rambling about his diet and the troubles his daughter had. Made him just seem like an actual old man who has conviction. And when asked about his monetary gain he pretty much said "Well yeah? wouldn't you try to make some money?" I don't agree on all his shit but he seems nice enough and I believe he believes what he says.

Don't watch the interview unless you love the guy, it 2 and a half hours of them agreeing with each other.

Also, music.

assuming completely hand to hand and no plot armor or deliberate joke weaknesses cartman would easily overpower stewie

yea he's patronizing to the right in order to make money off them. he seems genuinely conservative but he exaggerates so morons give him patreon bucks and buy his inane book. I really think he does it as a way to do as little work as possible and get even more rich.

he's definitely pretty reasonable and intelligent on the whole. in all the debates i've seen with him, he's never lost his cool and has never really been a strict ideologue (though he sometimes leans that way when it comes to talking about the far-left). i just think he's not a particularly good debater or political/social theorist and is heavily overrated by both left and right.

i think he should stick to his actual profession and not spend so much time wading into politics.

i watch most JRE podcasts whether or not i like the person desu. if you want much better political and social discussion, check out the Eric and Bret Weinstein episodes.

i don't really see how anyone could consider him disingenuous though.

People who hate Jordan Peterson just haven't actually listened to Jordan Peterson. Half of his stuff is near-religious suppositions based on his love of mythology, archetypal stories in human history, and Carl Jung (who said very religious-type things himself in his clinical practice).

The other half of Jordan Peterson is reasonable advice backed up by most of the psychiatric community on how to approach personality issues.

He's more liberal in ideology (and the way he has voted in the past), remember he's been an academic for 30 years, but he is a traditionalist when it comes to things like free speech which makes the left think he's a hateful evil left hating demon, which is ridiculous.

Then why do you think he's a fascist?

>weinstein

naw, I think the left hate him because a lot of alt-righters are really into him.

I'm pretty liberal, and I went in expecting to be super critical of the stuff that he has to say, but his points are really well thought out.

nvm, I basically just restated what you said. Bedtime

Well, postmodernism has always been a vague term. Foucault and Derrida are more seen as post-structuralists.

I can't read this thread because I know none of the faggot autists who post on Sup Forums could possibly have more to say than Jordan Peterson.
I fucking hate you all. Except for the one's who aren't postmodernist socialist soyfucks.

We are talking about Jordan Peterson himself, as a topic. How would Jordan Peterson have more to say, how, do you...

Is this hard for you? Is reading difficult for you? Are you lost?

read my message again and then fuck yourself

He's fine he likes Tom Waits

He also likes Leonard Cohen.
Top fella.

>I can't defend myself or anything I say

What the fuck do you want me to defend?
I'm saying no one here is possibly more intelligent than JP and I can't bear to here these fucking losers criticize someone who is doing so much while they sit around on the computers and fucking work on their anonymous posts like anyone gives a good goddamn.

...

Oh. You're a shill. Cool.

...

you cracked the code

i've never even thought this about someone before but he clearly has asperger's syndrome

>conservative christcuck
>is a sperg
wew lad

You have more learning to do. Open discussion is exactly what Peterson is fighting for, especially if it's critical. That's when you should be paying attention the most. That's the purpose of free speech.

youtube.com/watch?v=QoBpAEj2Jik

Just because the people in this thread aren't Jordan Peterson himself doesn't mean our discourse is automatically of no value. That's a ridiculous thing to think.

The YouTube recommend videos does him no favors to anyone interested in him
>Watch Peterson DESTROY SJW professor
>Peterson OWNS dumb liberal student!
As someone who is liberal I was expecting far worse and have watched a lot of his content. I disagree with some of his views but I think that the advice that you should sort yourself out before trying to go an participate in changing the world is sound advice for anyone

OP is a fucking fag for bringing this piss thread to Sup Forums, fucking go back to Sup Forums and die.

Why are you talking to me? I'm just angry at my existence. JP is saving Western Civilization and self important tryhards on this fucking cursed board actually convince themselves they are beyond his level of sophistication, ok? It grieves me. I want to die.

It's really unfortunate. I absolutely hate the titles of those videos. You're absolutely right it does him no favors.

>And it's like, well, what do you do then? You fuck her anyway, I would say. It's not gay, by any stretch of the imagination. And it's like, well, it's two penises, isn't that gay? It's like, no it's not!

Jordan Peterson is not infallible. He is among a class of currently relevant intellectual speakers. No one is trying to say in this thread that they are smarter than Jordan Peterson, no one is trying to say they are a clinical psychologist from Harvard with 30 years of experience and an estimated IQ of 150. But there are other speakers, of equal qualifications, that oppose Jordan in some ways. Speakers like Sam Harris, Ben Shapiro, Milo Yiannopoulos, Dave Rubin, Cenk Uygur and Slavoj Zizek.

By speaking of his criticisms, we are investigating, discussing, hopefully exploring and exchanging ideas about him, to all of our benefit.

If you don't understand that I don't know what to tell you.

If you really hate yourself and want to die, I don't know how that's relevant here, but you should maybe seek professional help. There are clinically proven treatments for many psychological disorders, including big ones like depression.

Kek, good impersonation

it's really obvious that this guy's a grifter, right? like there's an obvious reason that he's appealing to a patreon audience and it sure as hell ain't the cabal of academia marxists

He's a pseud that can't hold with own in debates with actual academics in the same field. His fanbois have to rely on videos where he acts calm against unprepared debaters in order to shill him as some brilliant individual in his field, when he clearly isn't.

He had videos up on youtube before he became internet famous. In one of those videos he said uploading this video is probably illegal thanks to a stupid law and people said he was wrong. Then he got a cease and desist because what he was doing was illegal proving his point. Then he was called a nazi.

Yeah he's making money but I doubt very much he planned it.

>Invited onto a show about debates to debate
>Unprepared debater
Cool story bro.

>all these peterson defenders itt

Just read fucking Marx

Don't compare chunk ogre to Zizek please

I'm not defending anyone. I'm having a conversation. You are bringing up points and I am bringing up mine. If you had better ones you could do something other than insult him.

he could do better than insulting a vague "left" boogeyman. he could treat transgender people like human beings...

I'll go as far as saying he should consider using the "right" words. But he is entirely correct in that it should not be enforced by law. When I had long hair in my teens I was occasionally called ma'am if seen from behind. I was a little peeved, but I didn't and couldn't make a court case over it. I chose to have long hair and I accepted the risk. If you as a "man" choose to identify as something else just be aware you might be mistakenly referred to as man by people who do not know you and get the fuck over yourself.

You know what this isn't Sup Forums related. I'm sorry I'm leaving this thread.