>"several transmissions were beamed to this ship by rebel spies, I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you" >"I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a member of the imperial senate on a diplomatic mission to alderaan" >Vader literally just finished witnessing the battle of Scarif, boarded the rebel command ship which was in the middle of the whole battle, cut through rebel soldiers like construction paper, and saw the Tantive IV, which was inside the command ship, fly away right in front of his own eyes
Here are Palestinians using a UN Ambulance as a shield to transport gunmen.
Later when the Israeli's arrested the driver he claimed he had no terrorists inside the ambulance despite it being caught on film
apply this logic
Wyatt Allen
if it's all under the empire how can Leia be on a diplomatic mission?
It's like saying the governor of Georgia visiting Montana counts as a diplomatic visit
Lucas Gutierrez
Something better than princessese for I din do nuffin.
Jaxon Rodriguez
>leia is obviously lying in ANH in 1977 >R1 comes out in 2016 >HURR DURR WHY IS LEIA LYING IN THIS SCENE? What the fuck is wrong with this board?
Levi Brooks
honestly her being present in the middle of the battle above Scarif is what doesn't make any sense
Jacob Kelly
shes a politician aka professional liar. and she thought her diplomatic immunity would protect her. and caught criminals claim they're innocent all the time irl. what was she supoosed to say you autist, "yes mr spooky black guy, you caught me, I have the plans, here they are"?
Andrew Robinson
Why would you lie in such an awful manner?
Owen Perez
she had immunity as a politician, Senate was still a thing then. she was there to take the plans and smuggle them to Aldeeran in diplomatic mail, like spies tend to do all the time, but Vader gave no fucks about her immunity.
Jace Davis
Because she's a moron Check fucking mate
Nathaniel Price
see The story didn't change one bit (unless you think Vader was the one lying) pre-R1 and post-R1.
It was always them being boarded after receiving the death star's plans. Nothing was changed.
Grayson Phillips
>Take them to Alderaan
Was she? i thought the point was to some how get them to Obi Wan on tatooine, because she knew she was being followed and couldn't lead them directly back to Yavin IV
Jack Lewis
does an all out assault really count as spying
Jackson Reyes
how the fuck is the battle on the beach planet to steal the plans bigger than the battle for the death star?
like how does that make sense.
Kayden Sanders
Only once they were intercepted did she change course to Tattooine.
Oliver Reyes
she asked Obi Wan to take them to Aldeeran, so I guess it was her orginal plan before they got boarded. does not really matter though, important part is she was supposed to take them away from battle.
Kevin Flores
Why did she come out of hyper space in the first place?
Ryan Perry
Adding on to this:
>I regret that I am unable to present my father's request to you in person, but my ship has fallen under attack and I'm afraid my mission to bring you to Alderaan has failed.
So she originally wanted to bring him to Alderaan with her.
Leo Martinez
death star would btfo big ships so they had to use small fighters, they literally say that in a movie. also most rebel fleet got btfo then so it couldnt be used in battle of Yawin
Grayson Ward
You have no idea how much you could get away with by lying straight-faced.
Noah Gomez
They say in the movie that the Death Star can easily repel capital ships, but fighters can sneak through. Plus they just lost a ton of ships at Scarif, and whole squadrons.
Jack Evans
They were being followed since scariff though
I guess that makes sense
Isaiah Sanders
It's less about Leia lying than Vader even entertaining that lie. He has no reason to be stoic, calm, or diplomatic. He knows for a fact that the plans are on that ship because he fucking watched it fly off. He should be force choking Leia and throwing rebel soldiers against the wall like he was in R1.
Elijah Ortiz
movie
Levi Brown
It should have been Senator Organas ship that was docked in the battle.
Noah Morris
The lie is completely fucking retarded and literally impossible, he should be holding a lightsaber to her throw for even attempting such shit if the ending of R1 is anything to base Vader's tone off of
William Allen
he had no need for sperging out, he had full control of situation.
Sebastian Ortiz
The engine of the ship was damaged. All Corellian and Nubian ships were designed to automatically fall out of hyperdrive near Tatooine when there was a fault in the engine, because it was widely known that it was very easy to find replacement engines for ships on Tatooine from the junk dealers.
This is why Darth Vader wasn't all suspicious that the ship ended up near his home planet. It happens literally all the time.
Gavin Robinson
But he ALWAYS entertained that lie.
pre-R1 he entertained the lie. Post-r1 he entertained the lie. The only difference is if you're operating on the assumption that Vader originally bluffed about the transmissions being beamed to her ship - which wouldn't make sense since she was still under diplomatic immunity at the time of this movie.
Josiah Nelson
Is this canon? Like movie canon? I never heard of this.
Nathan Gray
she was still a member of the senate, not a bunch of no name criminals. he had no problems with murdering simple rebel soldiers in ANH as well, but Leia was royalty
Brayden Cruz
why didnt r2 d2 just space-email the plans to the rebels anyway? why would they need a phhsical copy?
Evan Sanchez
Their canons were ineffective, that's why the Star Destroyers were able to take out their engines.
Matthew Rogers
THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT
Parker Mitchell
Why is his henchman so ugly?
Austin Nelson
would a group planning to overthrow the US use the internet to communicate?
Justin Bennett
thats what the DNC did
Nathan Jones
he kknows what you mean
hes fuckign with you m8
Brandon Butler
>would a group planning to overthrow the US use the internet to communicate? Russians use the internet all the time hoss
Zachary Reed
There was a scene in R1 where Senator Organa talks privately with Mon Mothma that the plans were to go to his exiled Jedi Friend to get them to him (or the rebels in general? Cant remember) via Leia
Juan Howard
probably yeah
Julian Brooks
89iq
Bentley Reed
I was always confused.
After Leia found out there was a Death Star, did she purposely head to Tatooine to retrieve Obi-Wan?
Or did they get attacked, Leia realized she was near Tatooine, and just sent the plans down to him as a last ditch effort so that he could then bring the plans to the Rebellion?
Leo Lee
>After Leia found out there was a Death Star, did she purposely head to Tatooine to retrieve Obi-Wan? Yes.
Austin Campbell
"Alright I literally just saw you guys get off that ship I was maybe like 10 meters away from you guys and you took off, dont even play. Like I can literally close my eyes right now and the image of your ship taking off is still fresh in my mind Im replaying it over and over right fucking now so dont even fucking give me your usual bullshit. Dont fucking test me right now princess."
"Lol what ship?"
Jeremiah Martinez
I think she planned to take Obi on board and go with him to Aldeeran, there was a bit of dialogue between senator organa and mon mothma about that
Benjamin Diaz
>diplomatic immunity
You do realize that Diplomatic Immunity only applies to the place your visiting right?
The Empire is where Leia lives. She wouldn't have Diplomatic Immunity with Vader.
Dominic Perez
The Force opened up a wormhole that led the Tantive IV to Tatooine. There's some dialogue from Captain Antilles that was cut out where he talks about the mysterious wormhole that led them there.
Eventually there was meant to be a subplot about how the Force often shapes space and time to make things easier for the main cast but then George Lucas decided people didn't notice the writing was bad so he didn't need to explain the plot holes.
Zachary Perez
maybe he knew it was her daughter and didn't want to hurt her? but that'd be non-existent sub-text created from the sequels.
Ian Jenkins
was there a scene explaining wormholes using a folded piece of paper and a pen?
William Brown
watch any court hearing, thats what people do and say irl
Juan Phillips
>the rebels had access to a giant battering ram disguised as a ship, but somehow didn't have access to space nukes
Jayden Wilson
Sup Forums has the dankest memes
Lucas Gomez
So, is Carrie Fisher the first actor/actress to be done in CGI BEFORE their death?
AND did Disney off Fisher because they found a way to create her digitally?
Kevin White
No they already knew about wormholes because of the space worms that live in asteroids, hoss.
Noah Lee
It's simple, Rogue One isn't canon, just a Disney cheap spin-off, and A New Hope portrayed the scene as if no battle or event like the one shown in R1 had happened minutes before that encounter between Vader and Leia. Vader is simply an elite enforcer for the Emperor, who suspected Leia and her father were part of the rebel alliance.
Joseph Phillips
Nitpick words all you want. But the movies implied she was protected more so than the average person before the senate was dissolved. "Holding her is dangerous!"
Not canon shitposter.
Brody Thomas
tron
Aiden Gonzalez
Not at all. We've had Jeff Bridges (Tron) and Michael Douglas (Ant Man) off the top of my head.
Jaxson Wright
>tumblr_inline_nt0vm22PRG1 Frogposters aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Nolan Baker
Jeff Bridges, Anthony Hopkins, and Michael Douglas have been CGI'd.
Liam Lewis
that ship may look familiar to some of you
Jack Rivera
you don't know the fucking legal system of the Empire and what degree of autonomy individual planets and royal families had. maybe it was more like European Union than US then, in that case she would have diplomatic immunity on a mission to the senate.
Lucas Reed
>leia is force sensitive >vader never notices >vader needs to read Luke's mind to figure out he has a sister What did they mean by this?
Ryan Johnson
>Empire >legal system
top kek
Landon Allen
>He doesn't purposefully change his filenames to trigger autists
Ethan Williams
My impression was always that the plans had been stolen in some sort of raid, but that they had just been sent remotely to Leia, which was detected by the empire
Benjamin Harris
Maybe she was just a really big fan of Lethal Weapon II
Parker Myers
>"gee i sure hope nobody notices the writing is shit"
Easton Ross
Robert Downey Jr. as well
Levi Baker
senate was still a thing then and officers on death star were afraid of breaking the law by imprisoning Leia, so yes, they had legal system.
Daniel Ward
>hire the same actor for Bail Organa from the prequels for the sake of continuity >still keep the old background story of Obi-Wan having served him in the Clone Wars, despite them barely interacting in the prequels outside of the end of RotS Did the cartoons add anything that could imply a relationship of trust and servitude between the two? Little inconsistencies like that always flare up my autism
Jayden Wilson
It's all stupid look where they put Scarif
Joshua Rodriguez
>leia is a force sensitive
???
Just because she has a child that is a force sensitive? It could have been dormant on her.
Aiden Green
The R1 connection to Ep 4 would have been much smoother if the desperate Rebels in the flagship were rushing to beam the Plans to Leias ship in the next sector over instead of her ship being already attached to the flagship
Xavier Brown
There's like 120 episodes of that fucking cartoon, so I guess he shows up a lot. And it's considered canon now. All of it. Anakin having a padawan, Darth Mual and his robot legs, Ventress, helicopter lightsabers.
Daniel Powell
That's exactly what I meant by "not trying to hide it anymore". Pepe would never be on actual tumblr.
Oliver Baker
>there is another
Ian Moore
>despite them barely interacting in the prequels outside of the end of RotS
He died on Alderaan when it blew up.
Mason Edwards
Wow imagine this scene with Kylo Ren instead. Do you think he would just start screaming and crying and stomping around before finally just losing it and start stomping down the halls thrashing his toy saber around?
Jaxson Richardson
That's what the first film leads you to believe.
This. I don't know who hires these people to come up with these non-canon movies.
Jacob White
episode 3, not 6
Henry Adams
>"Holding her is dangerous!"
Yeah, because she's a goddamn Imperial senator being held against her will and being accused of treason.
The only link between her and the Rebellion are the Death Star plans which you cannot currently find.
Robert Wilson
very dumb
Bentley Hill
prequels, not original trilogy
She has the Force in her, d
Ryan Sanchez
>non-canon Let me guess, Trump is not your president, either?
Evan Flores
This. It could have been literally the same scene, except for physically giving the plans to the escaping rebels, Vader fails to bust into the comm room that sends the plans away.
Michael Russell
The big 7 is coming fellas
Are you ready?
Dylan Jones
he would have literally had autism attack and hid in his room for a few hours to watch Kaminoian cartoons, shitpost on holonet and calm himself down before resuming interrogation.
Justin Fisher
Kylo being a white male (tm) would never be able to stand up to a strong independent white woman like Leia. Only a big black guy like Vader can satisfy those bitches.
Jaxson Thomas
What does one thing have to do with the other? The only canon movies are I to VI. They're the only ones made by George Lucas.
Angel Rogers
Have you not seen the prequels?
Anakin/Vader is borderline retarded when it comes to linear thought process
Matthew Thompson
I don't understand the argument you're trying to make.