People claim they are both the GOATs

>people claim they are both the GOATs
>lost championship games in embarrassing fashion
>need superteams to compete for championships

why do people worship them? They're not real GOATs.

Who are the GOATs then?

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Brady is, LeBron is not

only nostalgiafag nulennials believe this

Brady can work (and win) with anyone though

>has only won with the greatest of all time head coach and top defenses

what makes you think he could win a shit team like Jets or Burrs?

No one can with the Jets. It's a physical impossibility.

Well, it's half right.

>top defenses
lel. it was the defense that fucked up in 08

Flash Gordon won with the Jest

except Joe Namath apparently

That was the Proto-Jets. They had yet to complete their full metamorphosis into their final form.

doesn't make sense though

they went to two afccg's with mark sanchez, so the talent around the qb wasn't the problem. They just needed a better qb.

>scoring 14 points only with Randy Moss against a meme Giants team

Brady playing like shit was why they lost

Jordan sure, but Joe Montana LITERALLY had superteams far beyond anything Brady had sans 2007

Steve Young had super teams too but only ended up with 1 ring

2004, 2014, and 2016 were all super teams. 2003 is debatable.

Tom Brady is literally the Michael Jordan of the NFL

bc the most recent best player in the league is "the G.O.A.T." will be the same with the next Lebron and Brady

a gambling degenerate that got the rules changed so defense was gone forever?

yeah

this, so much recency bias by these fing millennials

>a gambling degenerate that got the rules changed so defense was gone forever?

No, they are both the best players of all time in their respective sports

Name one player who won without having an alltime great super team tho.

The 2004 Pistons

And none of them have the talent to compete with either of those players man.

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When will this meme die? Montana won his first two SB without super teams. Just pure clutchness

Manning is superior because Brady is a system baby. Clots and Donkey's fell apart the moment he left. The one season the Patcheaiotss had without Brady, they went 10-6.

If Brady gets traded to another team and brings the same level of effectiveness while not under Belicheat. Then I'll say he's GOAT. But he won't because he knows without Bealicheat, he's nothing.

>Manning Superior
>Literally had the worst and one of the worst SB performances by a QB
>choked away the Super Bowl vs the Saints

lmao

>he had super teams built around him
>implying owners would willingly surround their stars with garbage talent to support his legacy

>need superteams to compete for championships
Ah yes - the HoF WRs Malcolm Mitchell, Chris Hogan, and Danny Amendola. Truly the most stacked group of talent in NFL history.

Montana's resume is a perfect gold crown. Brady's is an imperfect diamond one. Take your pick

Times amthey are achangin old man im not crowning lebron yet but he still has time for one or two more rings. Definitely in the conversation

>Went thought a billion different HQ and made Hall of Famers out of his teammates.
>Brady got a few of Mannings old teammates and they all turned to shit.
The system is real.

>have Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harris
>still can only win 1 ring
>meanwhile Tom Brady a ring throwing to Troy Brown, David Patten, and Fred Coleman

lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>4 rings is better than 5 rings

really makes you think

>Brady got a few of Mannings old teammates and they all turned to shit.

Reminder that Reggie Wayne called Tom Brady the GOAT

Also remember in that Era, you could turn the QB into past. Because Brady couldn't take a minor hit to the knee, they changed the rules where if you look at the QB funny, you get flagged. I'm still waiting for some pissed off defensive back to pile drive Brady and end his career after getting flagged for a non penalty.

4 rings is superior to 5 tainted rings + 18-1

HA!
Michael "84-91 muh pippen" Jordan.
AND
Micheal "96-98 muh worm muh pippen" Jordan.

If having the best defenders and the best rebounder of the league isnt having a super team then fuck you

The only tainted ring is yours after a night out you delusional fruitcake

**** Deal with it faggot. Only new Englanders will argue this

The 2007 Giants. The 2011 Giants. The 2012 Ravens. The 2002 Buccs.

The Colts made the playoffs the year after he left then went to the AFC title game the next year

how was 2016 a super team? the best player besides Brady was gronk and he was hurt.

I called the league, I couldn't speak to anyone high enough to get those stars added. Let's start a petition or something, I'm sure they will listen to us, they have to, we are of superior numbers and intellect, fellow jest fan.

This is a bizarre opinion. If Brady didn't exist Manning would be to Montana as Lebron is to Jordan. Manning always had top flight weapons as well as he padded his stats.

brady won his first three super bowls in that era.... The rules were changed because of jim irsays proposal

Not to mention he ruled over the pathetic AFC south like a despotic monarch.

>2 losses is better than no losses
wew lad
gentle reminder Brady has thrown five interceptions in the owl to Montana's zero

>NFL found them guilty already
>Acts as if pats are innocent
>What did he mean by this

Brady is the GOAT of NFL.

Lebron is not the GOAT of NBA.

>saying someone is GOAT in a team based sport

2007 Giants had one the best d-lines of all time t b h

They were pretty good but idk if all time. They weren't dominate a whole season. Definitely an incredible post season run tho.

The QB is the most important position and if Brady is the best QB then he's the best player by proxy.

No. This is dumb logic. The best player is the one who impacted the game the most
>Pic related

Brady impacts the game the most though because he's the best QB in the position that impacts the game the most.

He hasn't changed the way it's played tho. Jerry did.

HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHA

Montana had far more of a superteam than Brady ever did, and for his entire career thanks to no salary cap.

Salary cap doesn't make the game more competitive it just retards the amount of money players can make. The 80s also saw a Redskins dynasty, the bungles making multiple owl appearances, the Giants being great. The bears having a stacked d and an amazing RB. The fins putting together competitive rosters. The broncos making multiple owl appearances. Etc. Get the fuck outta here with your stale memes.

underage b& pls go

if you're this dumb there is no arguing with you

the salary cap is agreed upon by the league and players union. the singular purpose of the cap is partiality across the league. dynasties aren't supposed to happen any more

Also trees are green. The sky is blue, and we all need oxygen to live.

Brady and LeBron make whatever team they're on a super team by default

>having the best wing defender who went farther in the playoffs without you than you did without him
>having on of the all time great rebounders
>clutch shooters all around
>not a super team
>meme competition in the finals

Why does Sup Forums keep forgetting this?