Is hate speech real?

Is hate speech real?

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no

The real test of free speech is hate speech. If hate speech isnt free, then no speech is free.

speech is a human right. saying hate speech isn't free speech is the same as saying mean people aren't people.

No, there's no reliable way to define it. Countries with strict hate speech laws do not enforce it and mainly use it against political targets.

Many mainstream religions and their books would fall under hate speech laws if it wasn't enforced selectively.

yes

calling somebody a racist is hate speech

No one cares about speech that everyone agrees with. Saying the grass is green is unlikely to ruffle any feathers.

"Hate speech" if it exists, is speech that should be the most defended.

What are you, some pro-skub supporter?

Hate speech is subjective.

>Is hate speech real?
hahahaha,,, no

If this were real leftists would all be jail.

Ask yourself the question "how is hate speech defined"; it'll make the answer to your own question obvious.

What if I feel that that poster is hate speech, to me?

"Hate speech" is a fucked concept, if there is that, then there is no free speech.

as a dirty leftist i believe that we must protect free speech, especially hate speech. that being said, there's a difference between hate speech and specifically inciting people to violence.

Yeah? Wanna differentiate them?
If I say "I want all the xenos to be killed", and someone kills all the xenos, in what way could I possibly coherently be held accountable?

there's a huge difference between "i want all the xenos dead" and "you all should go kill these xenos"

That being what exactly?

No you dumb faggot, try reading some law or history sometime

I agree with that poster. It would mean feminists and SJWs would no longer be able to spout their bullshit.

the first appears to be a general statement with no actual intent on follow through while the other could be seen as some sort of collusion between you and the person spoken too to commit murder.

So someone says "kill yourself" in an online conversation. The person saying that has the intent and belief that you ought to kill yourself?
Or make it more explicit. "I'm gonna kill you faggit". That guy has the intent to kill you by mere virtue of saying words? *Really*? You got a crystal ball bro? You can read people's minds?

The only thing you can judge in this fucking world is actions. You're existentially incapable of judging the intent of other minds.

Did you forget that the whole point of rebelling and starting a new country was that the law was kind of shit?

Hate speech is the only time free speech matters. Nobody censors something they want to hear.

you do realize that intent is one of the main things that help get people convicted right? the police dont have crystal balls. as it turns out people are actually fairly good at reading intent.

Wat. The only "hate speech" that is illegal is if it's threatening for violence. You can say mean things about someone all you want as long as it's not a potentially physical threat.

Hate speech is speech the Jews hate.

Simple as that.

Of course hate speech is real but it's just speech caused by emotional reaction. To give it a label is insipid.

There is no way to judge real intent in this world. A person who confesses to a murder, says they did it out of rage fueled anger, for revenge, for money, for *ANY REASON* could be completely 100% lying and you'd never be able to tell. You are *existentially incapable* of judging other people's intentions.

I see a lot of words, but no arguments.

Does it matter? Speech is speech. No ifs ands or buts. Plus anyone how buy's in to that crap is guilty of doing it.

and yet we do it constantly. reality seems to disagree with you.

And you'll never be necessarily correct. Not a single time. You are existentially incapable. You'll make wrong judgements, again and again, and you'll never know. You'll be a thin-skinned scared worthless walking corpse all the while.

Speech that directly calls for unlawful violence is probably the best definition I've heard, but that's a lot more narrow and a lot more egalitarian than what the left wants.

It also makes antifa and revolutionary socialism illegal, which is hilarious.

free speech is trigger speech?

meh. seems to do just fine right now. no one seems to complain about it.

"Hate Speech" is just another word the Jews made up.

Let's find the JOO (Jew of Origin).

>no one seems to complain about it
Yeah, no one ever complains when other retards make objectively false judgements about states of affairs they never experienced. Yeah totally.

well feel free to let me know when you perfect a better system than the world currently uses. meanwhile i'll be here in reality where we have shit to do.

Already got one.

“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”

Hope you come to Christ. Peace late wrongo-bongo.

Jim should die in a fire.
Not hate speech.

Jim being an Eskimo, should die in a fire.
Hate speech.

What they are really saying is you aren't free to say bad things about protected groups.

Individuals and privileged groups you can hate as much as you want.

All white men should die in a fire.
Perfectly accepted.

>better system
>let everyone murder whoever they want
ok, buddy.

This is what my dad told me when I was growing up

‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’

Don't have to lift a hand senpai. Justice will be done, inevitably and with absolutely perfect accuracy and righteousness.

Try not to burn eternally in hell!

>thinks humans cant judge the intent of other humans and thus all laws should be abolished.
>thinks an imaginary friend who hasnt been heard of for thousands of years will fix everything.


you know, sometimes i try to talk to tripfags and you all just keep reminding me why its a horrible fucking idea.

>imaginary friend
Not more imaginary than everything you base your life on senpai.

plato.stanford.edu/entries/induction-problem/

Have fun suffering!

actually it's way more imaginary then everything we perceive and interact with.

People say "I'm going to kill you" all the time when they get upset. If you are mad you want to say something that is bad to say so you say something extreme like "I will rape your face" but that doesn't mean you will actually do that. Nobody should be arrested for something like that. It really isn't about speech as much as planning. If someone has very specific plans laid out about attacking someone that is very different from just saying "You guys should kill this person."

D e l u s i o n
plato.stanford.edu/entries/induction-problem/

>huurrr according to my retarded thought exercise nothing can be real.
>well now that im a colossal faggot and nothing is real lets go walk through some walls.
oh odd, you cant walk through walls, faggot? hrmm maybe thats because walls are real, unlike your imaginary friend.

Yes.

It's anything the people who make the rules don't like.

>huurr I have the reading comprehension and philosophical education of your average nigger layman
>well now that I've demonstrated my retardation and inability to read content more difficult than "shemale porn here!" your imaginary sky fairy is debunk lmao

L e l

Totalitarians renamed thoughtcrime 'hate speech' and thought we wouldn't notice.

i can read just fine. your lack of an argument is cute. try giving me a real reason why i shouldnt believe the food im eating is real but should wait for some imaginary guy written in a book thousands of years ago to solve all my problems?

Why is this thread mostly Americans bickering about shit? America doesn't have hate speech laws and never will. If the KKK can march by a Jewish neighborhood with anti-semitic signs, then it isn't happening here.

Your ability to be openly racist, anti-Semitic, and bigoted is completely safe.

Hate speech is only hate speech if it's inciting violence and aggression. It is illegal to tell someone to kill someone, but critical speech shouldn't just be legal, it should be encouraged.

Ignore the leftists that'll try to redefine hate speech however they like.

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No it isn't. With the rise of social media leftwing fascists can easily pressure others into doing what they want should a person speak against them loudly enough.

You need a powerful fucking lawyer to get away with that kind of stuff just to keep your head above water

Yes, any leftist speech is hate speech since it's resentful.

>i can read just fine
I really wonder what it is you're not getting then, if you can, in fact, read.

plato.stanford.edu/entries/induction-problem/
Everything you believe about the world is entirely illogical at base. *Everything*.

When a word becomes a buzzword it means it stop having a real meaning

you seem to have failed at reading. or were you just to stupid to answer my question?

What the fuck is "hate speech." As opposed to what, "love speech"? It's orwellian language if you think about it.

The fact you can't understand incredibly straightforward philosophy is too indicative of intellectual dipshittery for me to give a fuck about your nigger-brain, inherited from you similarly low-IQ parents. BYE NII~

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No one ever said hate speech was free speech.

Hate speech is anti commie speech.
It's perfectly fine.

This. People offended by speech are scum. Very low energy. Sad!

What we know so far:

"Hate Speech" is a book written in 1995 by a Jew named David Slayden.

Hate Speech: archive.is/x5drk
David Slayden: archive.is/ooxgJ

oh i understand what he's saying. that doesnt make him right.

The day a hate speech bill is proposed in America is the day I write a letter to my congressman.

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE

I HATE THIS I HATE THAT

BUT I LOVE FREEDOM

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THE SHEER IGNORANCE IS TOO GOOD. I'M OUT - YOU HAVE NO ALTERNATIVES OTHER THAN PIC RELATED AS A RAGING HOMOSEXUAL GAYTHEIST L A M O
THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO JUSTIFY USE OF INDUCTION BY REASONING.
RIP IS STUPIDITY, FUCKTARD WHO TALKS SHIT ABOUT THINGS HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT
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I agree. But the law doesn't.

>Free speech only means things I like
I wish wannabe tyrants would just admit they didn't believe in freedom of speech.

"Hate Speech" is a variation of "Intolerance" from the Soviet Union.

>hurrrr i have no argument so im leaving
ok, faggot. have a nice day.

all speech is hate speech for autists who get offended by loud noises

Obviously hate speech is "real".

A white skinhead could say to a black man "IM GOIN TO LYNCH YOU NIGGER!"

to instill fear and target him racially

A Black Panther could say "IM GOIN TO SKIN YOU ALIVE HONKEY" to a white person for that same purpose

So its not a question of reality, but rather is hate speech free speech?

lol like how can hate speech be real nigga like close ur ears lol like stop listening nigga hahahahahahahaha

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That's not "hate speech", those are threats and insults.

youtube.com/watch?v=SISq_y_WhKg

Hate speech isn't real solely due to the broad definition of which we classify "hate" as. For instance, if someone critiques a different point of view, and another one is offended and labels it as hate speech, what happens then?

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That is hate speech.

the whole idea is you are making hateful comments on racially charged basis

my sample text encapsulates that

You can't change english when you dont agree with it.

> oy vey comrade
> it's "intolerance"
> back to the gulag

I hate when people say hate speech is real and its not free speech or whatever. Just because you say you find it hateful doesn't mean I do. In fact, I find it hate speech when you say you find it hate speech because you hate what I say so I hate what you say which makes it hate speech so everything we say is hate speech as long as someone hates what we are saying and doesn't think its free speech but hate speech.

>Everything is hate speech

i hate your memes

id much rather have some logical arguments, if youre capable of that sorta thing

>that stock

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It depends on what your definition of is is.

Yes.

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First laugh of the day, thanks.

Because whilst you've said "I WANT all the xenos to be killed," that's not inciting violence. Whereas if you had said to the person to killed the xenos, "hey, you, go kill those xenos," that would be inciting violence.

>We do something therefore we should do something.

In Canada it's real. Lots of stuff is real in Canada.

yeah that's actually how life works. we do something until we have a better thing to do. then we switch.

Only the word nigger was ever considered hate speech
>now any form of bullying falls under hate speech
This is the turning point of liberal insanity guys, this is where they start to eat each other.

If I had to put a definition to it I would consider it hate speech if its a direct threat or if it advocates to cause harm to someone. But I already know where the "if it advocates to cause harm to someone" could go in the future. so I would only classify direct threats into it

It's defined really simply. Hate speech is saying anything other than flattery about people who aren't white, male, straight, able-bodied, thin or cis.

Agreed