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This is the crowning achievement of late 20th/early 21st century culture.
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What's the best Fall album?
It seems like an impossible question to answer. Grotesque, Perverted by Language, I am Kurious Oranj, Bend Sinister, and Hex Induction Hour are definitely up at the top, but there's really not much separating them from the rest of their albums either. The Real New Fall LP is incredible even though it's more commercial, and they have so many lesser known nuggets of gold in their (Cerebral Caustic, for one). Is there a best Fall album? Or is there only a top 5?
It's still weird to me that he actually died. The Fall seemed like one of those bands that would be around forever.
Hex or This Nation's Saving Grace are the popular picks
>What's the best Fall album?
Hex, definitely
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>What's the best Fall album?
Impossible choice to make. The best I can do is pick out one or two personal favorites per decade, and even those change frequently
>70s: Dragnet
>80s: Perverted By Language and The Wonderful And Frightening World Of...
>90s: Levitate and The Marshall Suite
>00s: The Unutterable and Fall Heads Roll
>10s: The Remainderer and New Facts Emerge
And that's not even counting the live albums, stand-alone singles and EPs, compilations, B-side collections...
>Impossible choice to make
But it's Hex Enduction Hour.
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>It's still weird to me that he actually died.
It still hasn't sunk in for me. "Mark E. Smith is dead" has been looping on repeat in the back of my head ever since I heard about it, but it's still unfathomable to me that it's actually true.
This Nation's Saving Grace is overrated honestly. There's some great tracks but a lot of it is kind of boring, and the sound of it has been used by so many indie bands that it isn't a very interesting listen. Hex definitely lives up to the hype though
WHERE ARE THE OBLIGATORY NIGGERS
HEY THERE, FUCKFACE
HEY THERE, FUCKFACE
Nation has Paintwork therefore u wrong
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the only memorable track from that album is I Am Damo Suziki; Hex has every track on Hex, so you're a wrong faggot
Astonishingly bad take
>said she, with a nasal voice
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Actually as a hightest Northerner my Fall takes have seniority over this entire thread
>the boy replied, his voice shaking
>the only memorable track from that album is I Am Damo Suziki
LMAOOO!!!!!!
hurr hey guys im from new york that means my opinions on jazz are better than yours that makes sense right
>not remembering classics Spoilt Victorian Child and L.A.
sooo..... THIS is the power of autism?
No. The power of autism is being so detached from humanity that you can't recognise Hex is the superior album
Slates is their best release. Truly lean and mean.
Slates is but a preamble to Hex, my man
wtf is this?
is it rape?
By "preamble" do you mean it was released prior to it? If so, I agree.
fuck off stew
This is the greatest TV appearance by a band in human history.
Being detached from humanity is the POINT of The Fall, retard. Imagine thinking this.
>he replied, smirking, mentally stroking his weenie, hardened with his own college-brand cleverness and dilluted wordsmith prowess
>narrating your own conversations like some kind of socially dysfunctional psychopath
>missing the point of The Fall this hard
This joke is over. You are out of your element.
I'm in charge here.
they just keep coming up from under the floor boards
fuck, fall fans really are autistic
"Garden" from this is the best thing they ever record, and it isn't really all that close.
Sure you are!
It's weird, because Mark's been kind of a walking corpse for a while now anyway, so it's almost like nothing's happened, but it has. I imagine this is what it'll feel like when Keef eventually goes (assuming he will)
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He had been looking pretty terrible for a while now, but I guess that's just how he was. It was only this last year where he started appearing in a wheelchair with a swollen face and other alarming shit. His lifestyle sure didn't promise longevity, but some disease must have fucked him up.
It's good, but it's not quite this one:
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I have such a fucking crush on her bros
Prime Brix was fitter
one of my favourites fall (mark e smith) records and one of my top ten from 00's also
There's a bunch of posthumous TV footage of him being released currently including this delightfully awkward gem; youtu.be
underrated fall records
frenz experiment
extricate
code selfish
fall heads roll
tromatic reflexxions
re mit
That song is a 10/10 to me but the rest of the album bores me
Witch Trials is so much better than Dragnet
needs more love
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mouse on mars are great
Marshall Suite too, although I'm not too familiar with the critical consensus re; their post-80's output. Their final record was decent too, better than the reviews said, good nasty garage rock.
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God I hate this soy boy site
Early-to-mid 90s Fall is seriously underrated, Extricate and Code: Selfish in particular.
I wouldn't say Tromatic Reflexxions is underrated, everyone I know who's heard that record loves it and it was universally acclaimed by critics upon release. It's just a deep cut record, like Levitate or Fall In A Hole.
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Levitate's probably the most underrated. That album's like the final boss of The Fall discography.
also... bend sinister, marshall suite and sublingual tablet
New Facts Emerge is an outstanding album and I have no idea why it's been flying over so many people's heads.
The Quietus was the only music publication that "got it".
Has any artist released more albums without any of them being bad than the Fall? Sure some aren't great, but none are bad.
I'm a brainlet, someone explain the infamous 'Obligatory niggers' line to me.
Early-to-mid 90s Fall is Smith trying to empathize with "common man" concerns and adding a more populist sound but he's still a fuckin' prick at heart so what you end up with are songs that manage the feat of sounding like tacky Sting-type Adult Alternative while also organically emanating unprecedented levels of contempt and dickishness. It's remarkable.
>There was stuff like 'obligatory niggers' and that, which has like come true, and every programme you see about young people has now got a black boy in it, I have to make a joke about that, I can't help it. No black man's going to come in my home and call me the oppressor, cause if I've got any call with the English working class...the English working class created this country so that those fuckers could come over here and complain about it, I have no guilt about them, its only the middle class and upper middle class who have any guilt about the blacks and Irish, do you know what I'm saying? and I don't like people pulling that on me...black people and Irish people come over here and think they're being oppressed, the English working class know that as a fact...Do you know what I mean, no black man's going to come over to me and say "You are the fuckin' oppressor," because I've never oppressed him, as far as I'm concerned he's oppressing me, because I have to watch his music on TV and I don't particularly like it, it's another way of looking at it...
is curious the lcd soundsystem references on tromatic reflexxions reviews, when obviously the fall with their singing and dance-electronic approach was the influence for lcd soundsystem and the dance-punk revival. obviously those critics are ignorants
i'm looking for the von sudenfed feature on that issue. i can't find it : (
"Losing My Edge" was a pretty clear Fall rip, I thought. I think Murphy has always been above-board in how his music is not far off from him DJing his favourite records.
What's the complete list of other Fall members that people give a shit about?
>Brix Smith
>Marc Riley
>Craig Scanlon
>Steve Hanley
>Paul Hanley (maybe)
>Karl Burns
>Elena Poulou
>Martin Bramah
Is that about it?
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Neat. Thanks user.
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Is this what inspired North American Scum?
I'm sure there's a scan of it somewhere, keep looking.
Speaking of The Wire and The Fall, lots of good shit here.
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Hanley, Scanlon and Burns are the biggest ones as far as I'm concerned, but I did like most of the people he's had in the band during the past 10 years or so. Greenway and Melling in particular.
i wrote this at a past thread...
A showcase of proud talent
>live at the witch trials (1979)
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>dragnet (1979)
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>grotesque (1980)
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>slates (1981)
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>hex enduction hour (1982)
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>perverted by language (1983)
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>The Wonderful and Frightening World Of... (1984)
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>This Nation's Saving Grace (1985)
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>bend sinister (1986)
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>frenz experiment (1988)
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>i am a kurious oranj (1988)
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>extricate (1990)
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>shift work (1991)
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>code selfish (1992)
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>infotaiment scan (1993)
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>middle class revolt (1994)
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>cerebral caustic (1995)
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>light user syndrome (1996)
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>levitate (1997)
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>marshall suite (1999)
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>the unutterable (2000)
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>are you are a missin winner? (2001)
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>country on the click (2003)
one fo the finest records from the 00's
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>fall head rolls (2005)
also one of the finest records from 00's
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>reformation post tlc (2007)
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>tromatic reflexxions (2007)
one fo the finest records from 00's
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>imperial wax solvent (2008)
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>your future our clutter (2010)
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1999: youtu.be
2003: youtu.be
2005: youtu.be
2010: youtu.be
Some choice cuts from later releases.
>ersatz gb (2011)
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>re mit (2013)
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>sublingual tablet (2015)
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>new facts emerge (2017)
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And, yeah. Bill is Dead. What a fucking song.
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Kills me everytime.
maybe the best blindness live version
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dragnet... the first lo fi record ever, royal trux, pussy galore, pavement... were listening
i agree, mate but let's quit that fucking sting reference
also all my friends sounds like totally wired (the rhythm section) to me
pretty simmilar also how i wrote elastic man with folk jam (pavement)
I never thought of that. All My Friends basically takes the rhythm from that one Neu! track and adds Elton John-style piano riffing and vox over it, right?
God why are the British so fucking annoying
one of my favs
Does the Fall have any albums that sounds like Joy Division?
It's also my favorite Fall album cover, the text/colors are A+
No JD were always much more gothic/disembodied/self-consciously morbid/pick your adjective here.
The intro and outro to TNSG was probably the most gothic thing M.E.S. ever wrote though.
Ok, thanks. I bought a Fall single once without hearing it and by the cover, thought it would sound like the Cure or JD. I was wrong.
Not really. The closest The Fall ever came to that type of gothic rock sound was on Bend Sinister.
What are some Fall songs where the live version is much better?
I've listened to all the albums/b-sides/peel sessions, now im diving into the live stuff